USC QB JT Daniels Enters Transfer Portal

[marcusluvsvols]

On “The Swain Event” this past Thursday (16th), Jason Swain and Ben McGee we’re talking UT women’s basketball around the 40 min mark. Ben was arguing that better players would lead to less turnovers when Jason used our qb room (all 5 scholarship qbs) as an example to drive his point home that decisions are NOT connected to talent. He asked Ben “who do you think is our best qb in terms of TALENT?” Ben responds “Jarret Guarantano.” Jason responded, “I think it’s Brian Maurer.” “He can make all the throws, he’s accurate and he can run it as well. But his DECISIONS effected his competition % and lead to ints (paraphrased).” This has been my point all along. Take his talent and hypothetically fix his decision making (which will come with time and coaching) and those that wish him gone will one day regret how they felt about the freshman version of him based solely on 4 starts of his college career if he were to leave.

I cant believe there is a single UT fan on this planet...other than JGs parents maybe...that honestly thinks that JG is the most talented QB on the roster. Nobody who has ever played football with pads on could possibly think that...nobody that has seen SO MANY ducks, balls underthrown by 5 yards , rifled at 100mph on a swing pass...he still cannot throw a swing pass or wheel route. Still. After what seems like 7 years on the Hill...cannot throw the easiest, high completion % pass that a QB makes. The guys I played with both in jr high and in HS could throw a more accurate ball in the backfield than JG does. I played on pretty crappy teams too BTW.

Nobody who has decent vision and an understanding of the game of football could possibly believe that JG is a good QB. It just isn't possible. Not at the most important part of his job...throwing the football. He absolutely sucks at it, and will forever go down as the only QB in the modern era to start for 3 years or more and leave with a LOSING RECORD. Much of which is his fault, because he doesnt see wide open WR, throws terrible, late, underthrown deep balls, and of course that play at Bama will forever be remembered as the single dumbest, most off the wall, stupidest sheit in at least the last 40 years of UT football...because that is how long I have been watching faithfully.

1 of the worst things to me about this stupid panic from the virus is that we lost spring camp. Bailey enrolled early and Maurer had been working his butt off so that they could give JG a seat where he belongs....on the bench. If he is our starter day 1, and CJP is stubborn and slow to sit his azz down when he inevitably stinks it up...again...for the 3rd or 4th year in a row...we will be hard pressed to win 7 games and coach will be under serious pressure to perform in 2021. Conversely, if we get a decent QB under center who can, you know...actually THROW A FOOTBALL ACCURATELY then we can win 8 games and maybe 9 before going to a nice bowl game. We will have a good OL, a good defense, and good skill players...the only thing that can ruin our season is another garbage season from our loser QB.

Yes, it is perfectly OK to call JG a loser when discussing football. Thats his record, he owns it. .and it will be here long after he is gone. Seems to be a good guy and a tough young man. On the football field, he is a loser. He simply cannot get it done in the SEC. His record vs this conference is shameful. I wish him the best after football...which will be very soon.

 

[1vol8]

I cant believe there is a single UT fan on this planet...other than JGs parents maybe...that honestly thinks that JG is the most talented QB on the roster. Nobody who has ever played football with pads on could possibly think that...nobody that has seen SO MANY ducks, balls underthrown by 5 yards , rifled at 100mph on a swing pass...he still cannot throw a swing pass or wheel route. Still. After what seems like 7 years on the Hill...cannot throw the easiest, high completion % pass that a QB makes. The guys I played with both in jr high and in HS could throw a more accurate ball in the backfield than JG does. I played on pretty crappy teams too BTW.

Nobody who has decent vision and an understanding of the game of football could possibly believe that JG is a good QB. It just isn't possible. Not at the most important part of his job...throwing the football. He absolutely sucks at it, and will forever go down as the only QB in the modern era to start for 3 years or more and leave with a LOSING RECORD. Much of which is his fault, because he doesnt see wide open WR, throws terrible, late, underthrown deep balls, and of course that play at Bama will forever be remembered as the single dumbest, most off the wall, stupidest sheit in at least the last 40 years of UT football...because that is how long I have been watching faithfully.

1 of the worst things to me about this stupid panic from the virus is that we lost spring camp. Bailey enrolled early and Maurer had been working his butt off so that they could give JG a seat where he belongs....on the bench. If he is our starter day 1, and CJP is stubborn and slow to sit his azz down when he inevitably stinks it up...again...for the 3rd or 4th year in a row...we will be hard pressed to win 7 games and coach will be under serious pressure to perform in 2021. Conversely, if we get a decent QB under center who can, you know...actually THROW A FOOTBALL ACCURATELY then we can win 8 games and maybe 9 before going to a nice bowl game. We will have a good OL, a good defense, and good skill players...the only thing that can ruin our season is another garbage season from our loser QB.

Yes, it is perfectly OK to call JG a loser when discussing football. Thats his record, he owns it. .and it will be here long after he is gone. Seems to be a good guy and a tough young man. On the football field, he is a loser. He simply cannot get it done in the SEC. His record vs this conference is shameful. I wish him the best after football...which will be very soon.

The overall point is there are many people, a few on this board itself that have “talent” “accuracy” and “decision making” intertwined into one and that’s simply untrue. Once Jason Swain used our qb room as the example Ben agreed but he needed Jason to explain why talent and decision making are separate. I’ve been quoted saying the exact same thing, that Maurer is our most talented qb in the room 2019 and he’ll be the most talented in 2020. It doesn’t blow over well with the star gazers but it’s true. If the staff invested their time into that kind of talent and stuck with him, the rewards are higher than any other QB we have..... even with Daniels.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

It worked...very well. Maybe he jump started a monster or maybe that hole in the program returns.

I kind of hope he did. I don’t think there is any way to recreate last season, but I think that if they can go .500 against Bama and win .750 of their games against the Gators that would be huge for us. We need help in the Win/Losses column. If we can go into a season knowing that there is a good chance Florida already has an L on the schedule that makes a huge difference. We just have to do our part and beat the Gators occasionally.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

It’s refreshing to know I’m not alone on this board. Good post! Every word is true!

Glad I'm not alone either, I was beginning to think all the countless hours I've watched football have done me no good after all!

 

[butchna]

 

[Tnman1]

After what seems like 7 years on the Hill.

This made me laugh. It feels like he was a Derrick Dooley recruit.

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

This made me laugh. It feels like he was a Derrick Dooley recruit.

 

[VolInNW]

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Why will me miss him? He will still be here in 2021. And 2022. And 2023. Heck, in 2030 he will be a 15th year Senior who has 'really turn the corner' per the spring camp reports........

 

[Tnphil]

Why will me miss him? He will still be here in 2021. And 2022. And 2023. Heck, in 2030 he will be a 15th year Senior who has 'really turn the corner' per the spring camp reports........

^Classic!!

And I have no doubt is true. I can't remember when JG wasn't here.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

Uhhhhh no it didn't.

The Colts were 13-3 in his second year.
The Maurer hate is ridiculous.

He was EIGHTEEN and mostly didn't practice with the first team.

Before the injuries he was looking like the obvious choice to take over for JG.

He is the main reason the offense and pretty much the team was able to turn it around. If it wasn't for his fearlessness and ability to make plays, we probably wouldn't have made it to a bowl game.

Not everybody is perfect at the start of your college career at the age of 18 in the SEC.

It's ridiculous to say that either you are great right away or you're just never going to be good enough as a QB.

Its insane to write Maurer off. Watch the first half of the UGA game, the MS state game he was moving the ball at will. Yes bad decisions were made. True Freshmen do that. Then look at the Bama game. One of his picks was Jajuans fault for dropping the pass. Still drove us down. Scored a TD on a sneak the right way. Had more passing yards than JG had in one quarter.

Did JG ever look at good as a freshman? I don't think so.

He outplayed JG at Florida too.

Was starting to get it going against Kentucky with the field goal drive and deep pass to Callaway. Then they throw JG out there.

JG played well against SC. Second half against Kentucky. Missouri game.

The fact BR pretty much matched him as far as productivity and good play as a true freshman, would make me more comfortable with the job coming down to Maurer and Bailey next year.

Maybe JG will finally find consistency, but lord knows if that will happen. I'm sure it will cost us against Oklahoma probably.

Give it a break. I don't see you blaming JJ for the TD pass he let slip through his hands that got intercepted in the endzone that JG threw to him earlier in the year. Why don't you bring that play up in the same breath as Maurer's? BM was a turnover machine in HS and that's carried over to UT. I don't think we are going to see much from BM at UT ever again. It's going to be the JG/Bailey show from here on out.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

I cant believe there is a single UT fan on this planet...other than JGs parents maybe...that honestly thinks that JG is the most talented QB on the roster. Nobody who has ever played football with pads on could possibly think that...nobody that has seen SO MANY ducks, balls underthrown by 5 yards , rifled at 100mph on a swing pass...he still cannot throw a swing pass or wheel route. Still. After what seems like 7 years on the Hill...cannot throw the easiest, high completion % pass that a QB makes. The guys I played with both in jr high and in HS could throw a more accurate ball in the backfield than JG does. I played on pretty crappy teams too BTW.

Nobody who has decent vision and an understanding of the game of football could possibly believe that JG is a good QB. It just isn't possible. Not at the most important part of his job...throwing the football. He absolutely sucks at it, and will forever go down as the only QB in the modern era to start for 3 years or more and leave with a LOSING RECORD. Much of which is his fault, because he doesnt see wide open WR, throws terrible, late, underthrown deep balls, and of course that play at Bama will forever be remembered as the single dumbest, most off the wall, stupidest sheit in at least the last 40 years of UT football...because that is how long I have been watching faithfully.

1 of the worst things to me about this stupid panic from the virus is that we lost spring camp. Bailey enrolled early and Maurer had been working his butt off so that they could give JG a seat where he belongs....on the bench. If he is our starter day 1, and CJP is stubborn and slow to sit his azz down when he inevitably stinks it up...again...for the 3rd or 4th year in a row...we will be hard pressed to win 7 games and coach will be under serious pressure to perform in 2021. Conversely, if we get a decent QB under center who can, you know...actually THROW A FOOTBALL ACCURATELY then we can win 8 games and maybe 9 before going to a nice bowl game. We will have a good OL, a good defense, and good skill players...the only thing that can ruin our season is another garbage season from our loser QB.

Yes, it is perfectly OK to call JG a loser when discussing football. Thats his record, he owns it. .and it will be here long after he is gone. Seems to be a good guy and a tough young man. On the football field, he is a loser. He simply cannot get it done in the SEC. His record vs this conference is shameful. I wish him the best after football...which will be very soon.

You neverJG guys are clueless.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

Uhhhhh no it didn't.

The Colts were 13-3 in his second year.
The Maurer hate is ridiculous.

He was EIGHTEEN and mostly didn't practice with the first team.

Before the injuries he was looking like the obvious choice to take over for JG.

He is the main reason the offense and pretty much the team was able to turn it around. If it wasn't for his fearlessness and ability to make plays, we probably wouldn't have made it to a bowl game.

Not everybody is perfect at the start of your college career at the age of 18 in the SEC.

It's ridiculous to say that either you are great right away or you're just never going to be good enough as a QB.

Its insane to write Maurer off. Watch the first half of the UGA game, the MS state game he was moving the ball at will. Yes bad decisions were made. True Freshmen do that. Then look at the Bama game. One of his picks was Jajuans fault for dropping the pass. Still drove us down. Scored a TD on a sneak the right way. Had more passing yards than JG had in one quarter.

Did JG ever look at good as a freshman? I don't think so.

He outplayed JG at Florida too.

Was starting to get it going against Kentucky with the field goal drive and deep pass to Callaway. Then they throw JG out there.

JG played well against SC. Second half against Kentucky. Missouri game.

The fact BR pretty much matched him as far as productivity and good play as a true freshman, would make me more comfortable with the job coming down to Maurer and Bailey next year.

Maybe JG will finally find consistency, but lord knows if that will happen. I'm sure it will cost us against Oklahoma probably.

You fail to mention that he went 16-16 the next 2 years. The greatest that ever played took 4 years before he stayed above a .500 winning pct. Like I said, in college football you don't have time to wait on your QB to quit throwing it to the other team. BM continues to throw the ball off his back leg across the middle of the field. He did it numerous times last season and his last pass of the year he threw vs Indiana was off his back leg and was almost picked. He didn't improve 1 bit last year and I don't think he'll ever be the QB at UT again unless JG or Bailey gets injured.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

I cant believe there is a single UT fan on this planet...other than JGs parents maybe...that honestly thinks that JG is the most talented QB on the roster. Nobody who has ever played football with pads on could possibly think that...nobody that has seen SO MANY ducks, balls underthrown by 5 yards , rifled at 100mph on a swing pass...he still cannot throw a swing pass or wheel route. Still. After what seems like 7 years on the Hill...cannot throw the easiest, high completion % pass that a QB makes. The guys I played with both in jr high and in HS could throw a more accurate ball in the backfield than JG does. I played on pretty crappy teams too BTW.

Nobody who has decent vision and an understanding of the game of football could possibly believe that JG is a good QB. It just isn't possible. Not at the most important part of his job...throwing the football. He absolutely sucks at it, and will forever go down as the only QB in the modern era to start for 3 years or more and leave with a LOSING RECORD. Much of which is his fault, because he doesnt see wide open WR, throws terrible, late, underthrown deep balls, and of course that play at Bama will forever be remembered as the single dumbest, most off the wall, stupidest sheit in at least the last 40 years of UT football...because that is how long I have been watching faithfully.

1 of the worst things to me about this stupid panic from the virus is that we lost spring camp. Bailey enrolled early and Maurer had been working his butt off so that they could give JG a seat where he belongs....on the bench. If he is our starter day 1, and CJP is stubborn and slow to sit his azz down when he inevitably stinks it up...again...for the 3rd or 4th year in a row...we will be hard pressed to win 7 games and coach will be under serious pressure to perform in 2021. Conversely, if we get a decent QB under center who can, you know...actually THROW A FOOTBALL ACCURATELY then we can win 8 games and maybe 9 before going to a nice bowl game. We will have a good OL, a good defense, and good skill players...the only thing that can ruin our season is another garbage season from our loser QB.

Yes, it is perfectly OK to call JG a loser when discussing football. Thats his record, he owns it. .and it will be here long after he is gone. Seems to be a good guy and a tough young man. On the football field, he is a loser. He simply cannot get it done in the SEC. His record vs this conference is shameful. I wish him the best after football...which will be very soon.

I'll also wager with you that Tn will not have an overall losing record the 4 years JG plays QB even though he was part of 2 of the least talented teams ever assembled in Knoxville. You being a big football guru, can you please tell me a time in the SEC when a team that had the weakest OL and DL in the conference had a winning record?

 

[VolAlly]

If healthy he is a whole tier skill-wise above any other QB on the team. As someone else said or alluded to you can't have too many good QBs. Want proof of that just look at USC at the start of last year. They had JT Daniels, (the most proficient QB in California high school history), Fink, Sears and Slovis, all quality QBs. Daniels went down for the season after a little more than one quarter, Sears transferred out, Finks played overall well but not great and was a bit inconsistent. Slovis has turned out to be a genuine hardcore phenom.

Daniels will likely end up in the SEC as probably, not definitely, USC would not support his transfer to another PAC-12 team. I would guess LSU or Tennessee is to be his final destination. The Vols do not currently have a dependable provable consistent quality starting QB.

 

[1vol8]

You fail to mention that he went 16-16 the next 2 years. The greatest that ever played took 4 years before he stayed above a .500 winning pct. Like I said, in college football you don't have time to wait on your QB to quit throwing it to the other team. BM continues to throw the ball off his back leg across the middle of the field. He did it numerous times last season and his last pass of the year he threw vs Indiana was off his back leg and was almost picked. He didn't improve 1 bit last year and I don't think he'll ever be the QB at UT again unless JG or Bailey gets injured.[/QUOTE]

-Seems Auburn thinks they do with Bo. And they’ll only benefit from their patience as early as next year. Just as UT did themselves with Peyton. Also you keep pressing the issue of his turn overs as if you’re not referring to ONE GAME of only 2 bad decisions. Take those away and he only threw 3 picks. Take the 2 away that hit the receivers IN the chest IN stride and he only threw 1. So just stop. Bottom line YOU don’t like him and you’d rather be right than watch UT benefit from you being wrong.

— So does Aaron Rodgers. Guess who his game is most compared to........Aaron Rodgers. What a coincidence huh? To add to that Pat Mahommes and the league MVP Lamar Jackson are both just as well known for their “flawed mechanics” and throw off their back foot quite often. Hell..... Iirc Pat Mahommes doesn’t even have to be looking at you, am I right? What you need to be concentrating on is when he does throw off his back foot or otherwise flawed mechanics, how much velocity does he pack behind it? The answer is more than enough in most cases. Which is actually an uncommon SKILL. In fact the example you used of his last throw vs IU was a bad decision but the reason it wasn’t picked is it got there too fast and it was ON target.

- what you meant to say is “I hope he’ll never be the qb at UT again.” Because if not for his injury you seem to forget he was running away with the job and likely would’ve been your starting QB for 2020. Like it or not, JG and HBs biggest obstacle is BM and you know it. That’s why you almost seem to fear him.

 

[1vol8]

@PulaskiVolFan . This is the response to quote #62. Bad internet connection has things acting funky.

Seems Auburn thinks they do with Bo. And they’ll only benefit from their patience as early as next year. Just as UT did themselves with Peyton. Also you keep pressing the issue of his turn overs as if you’re not referring to ONE GAME of only 2 bad decisions. Take those away and he only threw 3 picks. Take the 2 away that hit the receivers IN the chest IN stride and he only threw 1. So just stop. Bottom line YOU don’t like him and you’d rather be right than watch UT benefit from you being wrong.

— So does Aaron Rodgers. Guess who his game is most compared to........Aaron Rodgers. What a coincidence huh? To add to that Pat Mahommes and the league MVP Lamar Jackson are both just as well known for their “flawed mechanics” and throw off their back foot quite often. Hell..... Iirc Pat Mahommes doesn’t even have to be looking at you, am I right? What you need to be concentrating on is when he does throw off his back foot or otherwise flawed mechanics, how much velocity does he pack behind it? The answer is more than enough in most cases. Which is actually an uncommon SKILL. In fact the example you used of his last throw vs IU was a bad decision but the reason it wasn’t picked is it got there too fast and it was ON target.

- what you meant to say is “I hope he’ll never be the qb at UT again.” Because if not for his injury you seem to forget he was running away with the job and likely would’ve been your starting QB for 2020. Like it or not, JG and HBs biggest obstacle is BM and you know it. That’s why you almost seem to fear him.

 

[butchna]

If healthy he is a whole tier skill-wise above any other QB on the team. As someone else said or alluded to you can't have too many good QBs. Want proof of that just look at USC at the start of last year. They had JT Daniels, (the most proficient QB in California high school history), Fink, Sears and Slovis, all quality QBs. Daniels went down for the season after a little more than one quarter, Sears transferred out, Finks played overall well but not great and was a bit inconsistent. Slovis has turned out to be a genuine hardcore phenom.

Daniels will likely end up in the SEC as probably, not definitely, USC would not support his transfer to another PAC-12 team. I would guess LSU or Tennessee is to be his final destination. The Vols do not currently have a dependable provable consistent quality starting QB.

Whether USC supports his decision is a non-factor.

 

[CAVPUT]

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Such a spot on GIF. Well done.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

@PulaskiVolFan . This is the response to quote #62. Bad internet connection has things acting funky.

Seems Auburn thinks they do with Bo. And they’ll only benefit from their patience as early as next year. Just as UT did themselves with Peyton. Also you keep pressing the issue of his turn overs as if you’re not referring to ONE GAME of only 2 bad decisions. Take those away and he only threw 3 picks. Take the 2 away that hit the receivers IN the chest IN stride and he only threw 1. So just stop. Bottom line YOU don’t like him and you’d rather be right than watch UT benefit from you being wrong.

— So does Aaron Rodgers. Guess who his game is most compared to........Aaron Rodgers. What a coincidence huh? To add to that Pat Mahommes and the league MVP Lamar Jackson are both just as well known for their “flawed mechanics” and throw off their back foot quite often. Hell..... Iirc Pat Mahommes doesn’t even have to be looking at you, am I right? What you need to be concentrating on is when he does throw off his back foot or otherwise flawed mechanics, how much velocity does he pack behind it? The answer is more than enough in most cases. Which is actually an uncommon SKILL. In fact the example you used of his last throw vs IU was a bad decision but the reason it wasn’t picked is it got there too fast and it was ON target.

- what you meant to say is “I hope he’ll never be the qb at UT again.” Because if not for his injury you seem to forget he was running away with the job and likely would’ve been your starting QB for 2020. Like it or not, JG and HBs biggest obstacle is BM and you know it. That’s why you almost seem to fear him.

He could not stay on the field for more than a half. He got more than a fair shot for a freshman and he never improved, not at any level of his play. Now it seems as he's been recruited over as there is simply too much buzz about Bailey.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

Talk about over hype. I've never seen a single person other than his handler compare BM to Mahommes and Rodgers. He doesn't even have the strongest arm on his own team and you compare him to the biggest 2 cannons playing today, what a joke.

 

[1vol8]

Give it a break. I don't see you blaming JJ for the TD pass he let slip through his hands that got intercepted in the endzone that JG threw to him earlier in the year. Why don't you bring that play up in the same breath as Maurer's? BM was a turnover machine in HS and that's carried over to UT. I don't think we are going to see much from BM at UT ever again. It's going to be the JG/Bailey show from here on out.

And btw...... you being in “recruiting” making a comment like that only shows why you guys miss 70% of the time. Kind of hard to recruit accurately without doing your homework wouldn’t you agree? His receivers averaged 11 drops a game his junior year. There were also 11 td passes dropped that year. 6 of his 12 ints were tip drill ints that were drops just like DWAs and JJs. So no...... HE was not a turnover “machine”. He did HIS JOB! He simply fell victim to his receivers letting the ball into their chest on a consistent basis. His senior year the number of average drops dropped to 5 a game. Bringing his completion % from 58% in 2017 to 67% in 2018 as well as his td/int ratio up from 18/13 to 34/12. And yes.... three of those 12 were also tip drill ints. Another thing you you would know is his team was an 85% passing team. So the point is, it’s not so surprising that you claim to be in recruiting and don’t know chit.

 

[1vol8]

Talk about over hype. I've never seen a single person other than his handler compare BM to Mahommes and Rodgers. He doesn't even have the strongest arm on his own team and you compare him to the biggest 2 cannons playing today, what a joke.

Dude..... you’re not from his area so you know very little about his comparisons from people/coaches or otherwise.

 

[1vol8]

He could not stay on the field for more than a half. He got more than a fair shot for a freshman and he never improved, not at any level of his play. Now it seems as he's been recruited over as there is simply too much buzz about Bailey.

The buzz around Bailey stems from his rank. We all know it regardless if we admit it or not. Truth is we know very little about him. Is he a product of his Hs team or was his team a product of him? Who knows? Maybe a bit of both. What I know doesn’t look good is the fact that HB placed next to last in the biggest qb competition in the nation vs the top athletes of his class and he’s coming to a middle of the pack football team in terms of overall talent whereas BM came to a less talented team and shined the brightest vs the stiffest competition. Which is exactly what he did at the same qb competition the year before and placed 5th with a 10/1 td/int ratio. Point in case.... BM has SHOWN the ability to rise to the occasion. Hb still has yet to prove he can.

 

[1vol8]

Talk about over hype. I've never seen a single person other than his handler compare BM to Mahommes and Rodgers. He doesn't even have the strongest arm on his own team and you compare him to the biggest 2 cannons playing today, what a joke.

Talk about over hype. I've never seen a single person other than his handler compare BM to Mahommes and Rodgers. He doesn't even have the strongest arm on his own team and you compare him to the biggest 2 cannons playing today, what a joke.

You’ve never heard me compare him to Mahommes. He’s not quite that athletic. The closest I’ve see to Mahommes would be Spencer Rattler. And yes, both lack Mahommes arm strength but both are plenty strong enough. And for what it’s worth that’s an easy argument/cop out to say he doesn’t have the strongest arm on his team with JTSs cannon in the same room. Of course he doesn’t and not many would in any room around the country.

 

[VolAlly]

Whether USC supports his decision is a non-factor.

Daniels is eligible to be granted a waiver if he decides to transfer from USC. If granted when he transferred he would be eligible to play immediately. But if he picked a PAC-12 team USC as a member of the PAC 12 has the unilateral right to require under those circumstances to require Daniels to have to sit out the first year at his new school.