UT vs. Cal

[milohimself]

Going 5-3 in the SEC was nothing to write home about last year. The league was somwhere between mediocre and terrible. Tennessee, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt account for three of those wins. No great accomplishment.

And a two point loss AT conference champ Georgia, and an 8 point win vs. Florida.

 

[maza91104]

Few things:

1. Washington was 2-9 last year. Mississippi State was 3-8. MSU plays in a superior conference. Pants them and do homework? Not even close. If you wanted to wager with me the records for these two schools over the next 10 years at $x each year, I'd take MSU every year. It'd be a close series, but MSU beats Wash more often than not.

2. Cal will not drop 40 points on Tennessee. I guarantee it.

3. The Pac10 is underrated by a lot of people. They are good. Very top heavy. USC, UCLA, and Oregon are consistently good, and Oregon State is really climbing up to be a great program.

4. Kentucky > Indiana
Big 10 > Pac 10
SEC > Pac 10
Kentucky > Washington, Stanford

Follow me?

5. I rank Duke, Syracuse, Cincinnati, Baylor, Illinois, Indiana, and Washington as bad or worse than Kentucky, MSU, Vandy

Regardless, great game to come. I'm very excited!

I believe it's about time to introduce some facts and perhaps put an end to some poor arguments and misconceptions, particularly with point 4, which I do not "follow."

1. The Big 10 has been living off their reputation for a long time...it is not "better" than the PAC-10
Fact: since 2001, the Pac-10 teams are 12-11 versus Big-10 schools in the regular season. The real kicker here is that in Bowl Games, the Pac-10 is an impressive 5-2 against the Big 10.

2. In regards to the SEC, the Pac-10 is 6-3. Sadly, there have been no bowl games between the two schools in the past 5 years.

I'd caution anyone from making snap judgements from this, but it's time to stop making subjective judgments...we're in a new era of football and the Pac-10 has caught up to the traditional power conferences. 3 yards and a cloud of dust will get your ass kicked by the Pac-10 because we know how to (gasp) throw the ball. I have no problem with you ripping on Cal or the Pac-10, but you better have something to back it up with. By the way, all these stats came from ESPN, so you can go there to check the stats.

 

[milohimself]

I believe it's about time to introduce some facts and perhaps put an end to some poor arguments and misconceptions, particularly with point 4, which I do not "follow."

1. The Big 10 has been living off their reputation for a long time...it is not "better" than the PAC-10
Fact: since 2001, the Pac-10 teams are 12-11 versus Big-10 schools in the regular season. The real kicker here is that in Bowl Games, the Pac-10 is an impressive 5-2 against the Big 10.

2. In regards to the SEC, the Pac-10 is 6-3. Sadly, there have been no bowl games between the two schools in the past 5 years.

I'd caution anyone from making snap judgements from this, but it's time to stop making subjective judgments...we're in a new era of football and the Pac-10 has caught up to the traditional power conferences. 3 yards and a cloud of dust will get your ass kicked by the Pac-10 because we know how to (gasp) throw the ball. I have no problem with you ripping on Cal or the Pac-10, but you better have something to back it up with. By the way, all these stats came from ESPN, so you can go there to check the stats.

:clapping:

By the way... For a great stats site, instead of ESPN, try www.cfbdatawarehouse.com

 

[hatvol96]

I believe it's about time to introduce some facts and perhaps put an end to some poor arguments and misconceptions, particularly with point 4, which I do not "follow."

1. The Big 10 has been living off their reputation for a long time...it is not "better" than the PAC-10
Fact: since 2001, the Pac-10 teams are 12-11 versus Big-10 schools in the regular season. The real kicker here is that in Bowl Games, the Pac-10 is an impressive 5-2 against the Big 10.

2. In regards to the SEC, the Pac-10 is 6-3. Sadly, there have been no bowl games between the two schools in the past 5 years.

I'd caution anyone from making snap judgements from this, but it's time to stop making subjective judgments...we're in a new era of football and the Pac-10 has caught up to the traditional power conferences. 3 yards and a cloud of dust will get your ass kicked by the Pac-10 because we know how to (gasp) throw the ball. I have no problem with you ripping on Cal or the Pac-10, but you better have something to back it up with. By the way, all these stats came from ESPN, so you can go there to check the stats.

I'll simply say this: With all the garbage being spewed about how the PAC-10 can now play the major conferences toe to toe, PACophiles better pray that Cal wins at UT and Oregon defends its home field against Oklahoma. Otherwise, it will again prove that league is USC and nine midgets.

 

[GAVol]

If it's a snap judgement to think that the Pac-10 plays finesse football, it's also a snap judgement to think that the SEC plays 3 yards and a cloud of dust. I'd bet that we'll probably end up throwing it 40 times. Most teams in the SEC aren't run heavy, they're (gasp) balanced.

 

[hatvol96]

:clapping:

By the way... For a great stats site, instead of ESPN, try www.cfbdatawarehouse.com

What are the PAC 10s numbers against the Big 12?

 

[milohimself]

I don't know. Ask somebody else, I'm too busy writing an essay for school on my other screen to go compile stats.

 

[hatvol96]

I don't know. Ask somebody else, I'm too busy writing an essay for school on my other screen to go compile stats.

The Big 12 has won four of the last five Holiday Bowls against the PAC 10. Twice since 2001, a Big 12 team has beaten the PAC 10 champ in the Rose Bowl, OU over Washington State and Texas over SC. OU has beaten Oregon once in the regular season and split home and home with UCLA. SC beat OU in the Orange Bowl two years ago, the same year that Cal, after crying enough about being left out of the BCS to water all the vineyards in California, got their a$$ kicked by Texas Tech in the Holiday Bowl.

 

[milohimself]

The Big 12 has won four of the last five Holiday Bowls against the PAC 10. Twice since 2001, a Big 12 team has beaten the PAC 10 champ in the Rose Bowl, OU over Washington State and Texas over SC. OU has beaten Oregon once in the regular season and split home and home with UCLA. SC beat OU in the Orange Bowl two years ago, the same year that Cal, after crying enough about being left out of the BCS to water all the vineyards in California, got their a$$ kicked by Texas Tech in the Holiday Bowl.

... Ok. Big deal. No sane football fan runs arond claiming Pac-10 football as the best in the land. Just that a lot of people, from SEC territory in particular, tend to underestimate Pac-10 ball.

 

[GAVol]

Just thought I'd help Milo with his sig . . .

 

[hatvol96]

... Ok. Big deal. No sane football fan runs arond claiming Pac-10 football as the best in the land. Just that a lot of people, from SEC territory in particular, tend to underestimate Pac-10 ball.

The PAC 10 gets their shot to shut the SEC up on opening night. That said, God help the PACophiles if Cal goes down in Knoxville and SC gets upset in Fayettenam.

 

[milohimself]

UT beating Cal is very possible... Even game IMO.

However, I would be shocked to see USC lose to Arkansas.

 

[VolinArizona]

I believe it's about time to introduce some facts and perhaps put an end to some poor arguments and misconceptions, particularly with point 4, which I do not "follow."

1. The Big 10 has been living off their reputation for a long time...it is not "better" than the PAC-10
Fact: since 2001, the Pac-10 teams are 12-11 versus Big-10 schools in the regular season. The real kicker here is that in Bowl Games, the Pac-10 is an impressive 5-2 against the Big 10.

2. In regards to the SEC, the Pac-10 is 6-3. Sadly, there have been no bowl games between the two schools in the past 5 years.

I'd caution anyone from making snap judgements from this, but it's time to stop making subjective judgments...we're in a new era of football and the Pac-10 has caught up to the traditional power conferences. 3 yards and a cloud of dust will get your ass kicked by the Pac-10 because we know how to (gasp) throw the ball. I have no problem with you ripping on Cal or the Pac-10, but you better have something to back it up with. By the way, all these stats came from ESPN, so you can go there to check the stats.

Remember, I said the Pac 10 was UNDERRATED. UNDER.

Does throwing the ball mean success? No. Does running the ball mean success? No. The Pac 10 is inferior to 3 or 4 conferences, but have 4 really good teams, with the others rebuilding/building. I like the Pac 10, but they aren't there with the SEC yet. 5-3 isn't anything, TBH. Let me reiterate, I like the Pac 10 and think they are underrated. USC has 1.5 national titles since and Washington has .5 of one since 1990. The SEC has 3.5.

Annnnyway, these debates can get kind of silly. The big 5 conferences are all very good, and the next 3-4 will probably evolve into something different than 2000.

 

[WA_Vol]

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Is Cut the key?

By: Randy Moore

Date: May 14, 2006

The return of offensive coordinator David Cutcliffe, who molded the ultra-productive Tennessee attacks of the mid-1990s, has many Vol fans expecting a return to those high-scoring days of old. But is Cutcliffe alone enough to restore life to an offense that was virtually comatose last fall?

That’s the key question posed by Brett Edgerton of ESPN.com, who wonders about the bounce-back ability of quarterback Ainge and the big-play ability of Tennessee’s wide receivers.
Edgerton’s comments on the UT, Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky and Vanderbilt football programs can be found in an ESPN.com article called “SEC East spring recap: Gators eyeing title.” Here’s the gist of his thoughts on Tennessee:

Fall Questions: The offense can't get any worse, right? While we were still trying to understand how a team ranked No. 3 in the preseason could finish 101st in scoring (19 ppg) and plummet to its first losing season in 17 years, coach Phillip Fulmer decided to bring back his old friend Cutcliffe (UT's offensive coordinator for most of the 1990s before becoming head coach at Ole Miss). Will he alone cure what ails this unit, though? QB Erik Ainge said all the right things this spring, but he took a major slide during that disastrous, season-long duel with Rick Clausen. If Ainge struggles early, will he start feeling the heat from impressive redshirt freshman Jonathan Crompton? … And how much heat will he be feeling from oncoming defenders? The Vols lose four starters off the O-line and players like Ramon Foster, Anthony Parker and Eric Young didn't exactly make anyone feel better about the situation this spring. Trouble up front will mean trouble on the scoreboard -- again. … Do you realize it's been three years since UT had a receiver gain at least 500 yards in a season? Lucas Taylor looks like a potential playmaker and Robert Meachem might finally tap into that unfulfilled potential, but the jury is

http://tennessee.scout.com/2/530811.html?refid=3638

 

[cd12]

I really don't see this game as a defensive battle! but I think being at home will give us the edge!

 

[WA_Vol]

According to this Cal and Florida have one of the top 4 offenses in 2006. Not a good sign.

http://heismanpundit.com/?postid=921

California--Cal already ran a balanced, air-tight scheme under Tedford, but now he has added elements of the spread. It's a brilliant ploy which should help Cal's young offensive line to make up for some of its deficiencies. Think this system isn't buoyant enough to keep a team afloat? Last year, Cal lost its starting quarterback in game one. The replacement couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and his replacement was a former fullback. Most teams go 4-7 in those circumstances. Cal went 8-4 with three losses by seven points or less. Think the running game is all about an uber-talent like Marshawn Lynch? Well, Justin Forsett--a former Notre Dame commit who no one else wanted--also approached 1,000 yards.

Florida--We're giving Urban Meyer a mulligan, since his teams have always struggled in year one (something I didn't make note of last summer). Even though Chris Leak still isn't a real fit for his offense, I'll wager that Meyer has found a way to put the senior quarterback's considerable skills to a more positive use. When you factor in the talent playing for the Gators (a top recruiting class--with the top recruit, Percy Harvin--coming in) and the fact that the system has had a year to sink in, I think you will begin to see this offense flower.