UT vs Ole Miss - Game #3 - 2PM -ESPNU

#66
#66
Just another we fought hard, played a good game, had a chance to win type of day. That's what it's like to be a Vol fan of every major sport these days. :mad:
 
#67
#67
feel bad for Godley...It just makes the difference so glaring...we don't have a closer, no relief and they just keep rolling guys out there.

It makes the margin of error ridiculously slim and the defensive mistakes killed us today. Godley pitched well enough to win, but defensively we just didn't help him, even he has some guilt there on the bunt so....Missouri beat UF today, so I believe we are even with them now and it doesn't get any easier going to Gainseville next weekend. The Vols battled this weekend, just don't seem to have a winning mentality yet. GBO!
 
#70
#70
I am amazed at the Fan support the program still recieves - We have the most loyal fans for the quality of play - Step #1- Win Majority of Home Games - Need to win 2 of 3 at Home in SEC - I know we won at Kentucky but give the paying customers a reason to come back - Improve Defense at all costs- Gotta Win by next year (Win 1/2 of the SEC Games) or the program may just wither on the vine- If no inprovement after 3 years of Serrano I believe there is no hope....
 
#72
#72
NashvilleFan said:
I am amazed at the Fan support the program still recieves - We have the most loyal fans for the quality of play - Step #1- Win Majority of Home Games - Need to win 2 of 3 at Home in SEC - I know we won at Kentucky but give the paying customers a reason to come back - Improve Defense at all costs- Gotta Win by next year (Win 1/2 of the SEC Games) or the program may just wither on the vine- If no inprovement after 3 years of Serrano I believe there is no hope....
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I think in some ways it is fair to compare football with baseball. You are right, take football...61,000 people show up for a spring game for a football team that hasn't done anything in quite a while. I don't believe the baseball team is getting that kind of support, but still, I see your point. Truth is you could say the same regarding the basketball team, if support equaled an NCAA bid, we'd get one. Unlike basketball, SEC baseball is King, like football. Recruiting a top 25 class doesn't mean much if everyone else is getting better too.

Raleigh left the program in the dumps, not unlike Dooley, possibly worse. After last season, CDS dumped the roster...really all that's left is Williams, Godley, Maddox, Bennett and Manis, everyone else is new. Simcox, VJax, Price, Stewart all are good enough players to help in the future, we simply need to let the pitching catch up and recruit more.

Every series in the SEC has been similar. If we make errors in the field, we can't over come them. If Godley, Williams and Quillen can't go 7 or more innings, we're in trouble. If the bats can't get it going, we can't score enough to overcome our defense and our lack of pitching.

I didn't see anything in the O&W game that makes me feel like we're gonna go .500 in football, but I also know Dooley, graduation and the draft don't leave us in much of a good spot. I'm not going to start a fire Jones thread because, it's not really fair.

If folks think we should be competing with Vandy, LSU, South Carolina, etc...I don't know what to say...They've got top 10 classes going back 5-10 years and CDS is s'pose to overcome that in 2?

As for why SOME people continue to support the team...Well, obviously the kids and coaches are working hard and deserve it. Hope, is another reason, just like any other men's sport at UT and finally...wait for it...it's affordable, painless monetarily to support baseball which is what got me interested, something my son and I could do that didn't cost $70 bucks a ticket.
 
#73
#73
vol66 said:
I think in some ways it is fair to compare football with baseball. You are right, take football...61,000 people show up for a spring game for a football team that hasn't done anything in quite a while. I don't believe the baseball team is getting that kind of support, but still, I see your point. Truth is you could say the same regarding the basketball team, if support equaled an NCAA bid, we'd get one. Unlike basketball, SEC baseball is King, like football. Recruiting a top 25 class doesn't mean much if everyone else is getting better too.

Raleigh left the program in the dumps, not unlike Dooley, possibly worse. After last season, CDS dumped the roster...really all that's left is Williams, Godley, Maddox, Bennett and Manis, everyone else is new. Simcox, VJax, Price, Stewart all are good enough players to help in the future, we simply need to let the pitching catch up and recruit more.

Every series in the SEC has been similar. If we make errors in the field, we can't over come them. If Godley, Williams and Quillen can't go 7 or more innings, we're in trouble. If the bats can't get it going, we can't score enough to overcome our defense and our lack of pitching.

I didn't see anything in the O&W game that makes me feel like we're gonna go .500 in football, but I also know Dooley, graduation and the draft don't leave us in much of a good spot. I'm not going to start a fire Jones thread because, it's not really fair.

If folks think we should be competing with Vandy, LSU, South Carolina, etc...I don't know what to say...They've got top 10 classes going back 5-10 years and CDS is s'pose to overcome that in 2?

As for why SOME people continue to support the team...Well, obviously the kids and coaches are working hard and deserve it. Hope, is another reason, just like any other men's sport at UT and finally...wait for it...it's affordable, painless monetarily to support baseball which is what got me interested, something my son and I could do that didn't cost $70 bucks a ticket.
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We play 15 Home SEC Home Games & I still think we should expect to win a minimum of Half the Home Games (8) - Can not get swept at home like we have the last two home series- I know we play good competition but if you can not Win at home what hope do you have - What should be realistic expectations next year ? - Win 15 SEC games total seems reasonable or is the program so bad that we can not get to .500 in year 3 of coach Serrano
 
#74
#74
NashvilleFan said:
We play 15 Home SEC Home Games & I still think we should expect to win a minimum of Half the Home Games (8) - Can not get swept at home like we have the last two home series- I know we play good competition but if you can not Win at home what hope do you have - What should be realistic expectations next year ? - Win 15 SEC games total seems reasonable or is the program so bad that we can not get to .500 in year 3 of coach Serrano
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I don't have a problem with your expectation, but that's what it is. Is it a reasonable one?

According to Warren Nolan.com we have played the 9th toughest schedule in the country.

We have 2 pitchers and a bunch of question marks, so much so, that Williams and Godley have to pitch the WHOLE GAME for us to even have a shot, and Fridays are left to chance. During the telecast of the game Chris Burke discussed "the rotation" and how untraditional it is to have your "ace" pitching on Sundays.

Knowing that is the case, I think the expectation to win multiple series at home is not reasonable. Couple that with how young this team is, how inexperienced they are, I think the expectation is to get to Hoover by staying ahead of Mizzou and UGA, maybe fight with Auburn and Tamu.

This team has a chance to make Hoover, but it's not a lock by any stretch, not at this point. MTSU is a good team, RPI 51, and 13th SOS...we have to play them twice and I'm hoping for a split. I guess that means I have low expectations, or maybe just realistic ones.

Forgot to mention, I think we'll get to 8 SEC wins this year, if that's what you meant, I do...don't know if it will all be at home, but I think that's fair.
 
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#75
#75
Spot on post 66. Just to add a few things, a college world series team won 16 sec games last year so I don't see how you can expect us to win 15 next year after graduating 2 weekend starters. We are talking about a program that has not been to Hoover sunce 2007, a program that is just a couple of years off of a disastorous coaching hire, and a program that is not even the most recognizable program in the state anymore. I mean right now, our second best starter would ideally be nothing more than a closer. Really of all our freshmen pitchers I can only name 2 that would be seeing any weekend play. Then compound become compounded by the fact that we are so thin anybody not available hurts quite a bit (i.e. If Owenby is available we win today). It is going to be a long rebuilding proccess, especially since our standing in the SEC and the state makes recruiting difficult. That being said, you can finally see some pieces coming together and things heading in a positive direction even if the results don't always reflect it at this point. I'm not going to throw out win totsl expectations, because nobody remembers regular season SEC wins it is all about the post season. With that being said I expect Serrano to take this group of freshman to the NCAA tournament by the time they graduate.
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