UT was ready to forfeit

[orangetd88]

if LSU didn't agree to make a change.

Good for them, try and hit them right in the pocketbook.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2170163

 

[OldVol]

Wow! I can't believe this statement: "We will now face significant logistical challenges, but we hope for the continued cooperation of our fans," LSU athletic director Skip Bertman said. "Naturally our strong preference would have been to play during the weekend, but safety for student-athletes, fans and everyone else involved in a football game was the overriding factor for the commissioner."

It is clear that this was not done voluntarily by the LSU AD. This was forced by the conference.

Now, what does that tell you about the priorities of the LSU AD?

People, there are more important issues at play here than a win, a game, or even the financial concerns of the LSU AD, which I understand are important to them.

If LSU's AD had been a bit more forthcoming in all of this more schools in the Conference would probably have been willing to work with them on the finances.

We could have played this game in Knoxville, swapped with them next year, and split the gates between both schools in order to help them. I believe Hamilton would have gone for it if LSU had just given any kind of cooperation.

It is unfortunate that $ has been the primary concern of the LSU AD.

Look at the situation with the Saints. Their fans won't get to see them play for quite some time. They are bound to take a beating financially.

If LSU had been willing this could have been worked out to everyone's benefit.

Now, they just look really bad.

 

[orangetd88]

Essentially, L$U is using these tragedies to make people feel sorry for them, and try to work with them.

They were unwilling to do so, until being forced to by threat of a forfeit and losing all the money from this game.

I hope they lose every friggin game they play now.

 

[VOLracerx]

Originally posted by OldVol@Sep 23, 2005 11:48 AM
Wow! I can't believe this statement: "We will now face significant logistical challenges, but we hope for the continued cooperation of our fans," LSU athletic director Skip Bertman said. "Naturally our strong preference would have been to play during the weekend, but safety for student-athletes, fans and everyone else involved in a football game was the overriding factor for the commissioner."

It is clear that this was not done voluntarily by the LSU AD. This was forced by the conference.

Now, what does that tell you about the priorities of the LSU AD?

People, there are more important issues at play here than a win, a game, or even the financial concerns of the LSU AD, which I understand are important to them.

If LSU's AD had been a bit more forthcoming in all of this more schools in the Conference would probably have been willing to work with them on the finances.

We could have played this game in Knoxville, swapped with them next year, and split the gates between both schools in order to help them. I believe Hamilton would have gone for it if LSU had just given any kind of cooperation.

It is unfortunate that $ has been the primary concern of the LSU AD.

Look at the situation with the Saints. Their fans won't get to see them play for quite some time. They are bound to take a beating financially.

If LSU had been willing this could have been worked out to everyone's benefit.

Now, they just look really bad.

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I willstart by saying that this is LSU showing their true colors - however - this is going to come back and bite US in the rear. now we are really going to be seen as chickens@#ts - not that I disagree with the decision. I am a little disturbed as to how this was worder in the press release.
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[orangetd88]

It only makes us look bad to our rivals who want us to look bad anyway.

To the rest of the sane world, it makes L$U look greedy as hell.

 

[donsargegolf]

I cannot believe how many UT fans and their Head Coach are trying to get out of this game. Strap it on and lets play.

 

[orangetd88]

Who the hell is trying to get out of this game, don? If you cannot see what is going on here, then you are as dimwitted as some of these corndogs that have come by here lately.

 

[HilltopperVol]

It amazes me how stubborn everyone was to having this game and I understand that I am not privy to all that is involved, but what seems like a lack of concern for not only the players but for the likely victims of this coming hurricane astounds me. It is very evident to me that this could have been worked out much sooner with some common sense. This is only a game and I am very glad to see that UT's President understands this and is putting the safety of his team first. Great leadership on his part. However, Part of me is shocked that they are going to be playing it on Monday, but lets pray that this storm is not as bad as the last.

 

[OldVol]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 23, 2005 11:57 AM
I cannot believe how many UT fans and their Head Coach are trying to get out of this game. Strap it on and lets play.

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How do you conclude that we want out of this game?

Is it unreasonable to expect that a game should be played at a place and time when all of the fans who want to be there, can be there?

If that's unreasonable, then I'm missing something.

When you have player's parents calling, saying, "My kid is not flying INTO a hurricane," what would you suggest the athletic dept. tell them?

When you have fans, by the thousands, who want to go, but can't because of unreasonable logistics, how is it the fault of the team who is trying to work around the problem.

This is squarely at the feet of LSU.

I know they want to play at night, on Saturday, in Tiger stadium and that's their right and I understand that. But there ARE BIGGER isues at hand now. There were BIGGER issues at hand prior to Rita.

People need to remember those little details.

 

[volinbham]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 23, 2005 11:57 AM
I cannot believe how many UT fans and their Head Coach are trying to get out of this game. Strap it on and lets play.

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If this were true, we would threaten to forfeit Monday night as well.

 

[VOLracerx]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 23, 2005 11:57 AM
I cannot believe how many UT fans and their Head Coach are trying to get out of this game. Strap it on and lets play.

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you sir might need to loosen the strap a little - go be a Dawg, or a Bammer - you seem to be better at dragging this team down than being a fan.

This is not about the game - it is about the lives of all people involved - from baton rougue to knoxville - and if you can't see that then you need to seek medical attention.

 

[GoTide]

Originally posted by volinbham@Sep 23, 2005 12:09 PM
If this were true, we would threaten to forfeit Monday night as well.

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Forfeiting Monday night would clearly show that UT just doesn't want to play LSU. Honestly, I have a hard time believing that UT was prepared to forfeit. And another thing, win at all costs sounds more like UT than LSU.

 

[volbrian]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 23, 2005 11:57 AM
I cannot believe how many UT fans and their Head Coach are trying to get out of this game. Strap it on and lets play.

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:fool: :fool: :fool:

 

[volbrian]

Originally posted by GoTide@Sep 23, 2005 12:15 PM
Forfeiting Monday night would clearly show that UT just doesn't want to play LSU. Honestly, I have a hard time believing that UT was prepared to forfeit. And another thing, win at all costs sounds more like UT than LSU.

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Havent you got a player payment you need to make?

 

[VolBeef88]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 23, 2005 11:57 AM
I cannot believe how many UT fans and their Head Coach are trying to get out of this game. Strap it on and lets play.

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Sarge I disagree with that statement BIGTIME! I want to play them and every other good team. I would love to switch Memphis for USC! The logistics are crazy. I am going to the game and I have had three rooms taken from me. I understand them being cancelled and that is the right thing to do. But the right thing to do on LSU AD part was to do the switch. They would have made a lot more $ next year than this year and believe me they will be needing it big time next year. Their legislature has already funded them this year but next year money in LA will be very tight. So IMO the ad at LSU is not very savvy!

 

[LSUfan71]

Originally posted by OldVol@Sep 23, 2005 11:48 AM
Wow! I can't believe this statement: "We will now face significant logistical challenges, but we hope for the continued cooperation of our fans," LSU athletic director Skip Bertman said. "Naturally our strong preference would have been to play during the weekend, but safety for student-athletes, fans and everyone else involved in a football game was the overriding factor for the commissioner."

It is clear that this was not done voluntarily by the LSU AD. This was forced by the conference.

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It's clear? To who? What is clear to you? This decision can only be made by the Commissioner with input by the AD's. Everyone would have had a preference to play Saturday, do you actually think he meant with the hurricane? It would have been just as easy for you to assume that he would have preferred for the hurricane to not be here.

You're putting a spin on this with no evidence to support what he meant by preference.

 

[VolBeef88]

Originally posted by GoTide@Sep 23, 2005 12:15 PM
Forfeiting Monday night would clearly show that UT just doesn't want to play LSU. Honestly, I have a hard time believing that UT was prepared to forfeit. And another thing, win at all costs sounds more like UT than LSU.

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I love it! A bammer coming on here to tell us about Costs of winning! LOL.

How much is a win? I mean we found out what an O-Lineman costs bammer. How much have ya'll paid for a win?

 

[Volunteers]

Originally posted by VolBeef88@Sep 23, 2005 12:23 PM
I love it! A bammer coming on here to tell us about Costs of winning! LOL.

How much is a win? I mean we found out what an O-Lineman costs bammer. How much have ya'll paid for a win? 

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Fulmer said last night on ESPN that he would play LSU anywhere anytime, except when his players are in danger.

Bama sucks, LSU blows.. Head to higher ground biotch, cause UT is a Cat. 5 and were headed for Baton Rouge Monday night.

 

[LSUfan71]

Originally posted by orangetd88@Sep 23, 2005 11:53 AM
Essentially, L$U is using these tragedies to make people feel sorry for them, and try to work with them. 

They were unwilling to do so, until being forced to by threat of a forfeit and losing all the money from this game.

I hope they lose every friggin game they play now.

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What are your sources? Where did you hear that a threat of forfeit was made during the discussions yesterday? Nobody was unwilling to do anything, where did you get this? The forfeit issue was not mentioned until today. No one told your AD that LSU wanted to play the game under a hurricane.

With no hurricane wouldn't everyone have wanted to play Saturday? OF COURSE. That is what everyone meant by having a preference to play as scheduled. Most everyone here expected the SECCG to moved back one week and this game would have been the last of the regular season.

 

[donsargegolf]

Originally posted by VolBeef88@Sep 23, 2005 12:20 PM
Sarge I disagree with that statement BIGTIME! I want to play them and every other good team. I would love to switch Memphis for USC! The logistics are crazy. I am going to the game and I have had three rooms taken from me. I understand them being cancelled and that is the right thing to do. But the right thing to do on LSU AD part was to do the switch. They would have made a lot more $ next year than this year and believe me they will be needing it big time next year. Their legislature has already funded them this year but next year money in LA will be very tight. So IMO the ad at LSU is not very savvy!

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OK, I am mainly speaking of Phil. I think he is using this Hurricane to protect the vulnerability of his program and staff though.

 

[orangetd88]

Originally posted by volbrian@Sep 23, 2005 12:18 PM
Havent you got a player payment you need to make?

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[orangetd88]

Originally posted by LSUfan71@Sep 23, 2005 12:30 PM
What are your sources?  Where did you hear that a threat of forfeit was made during the discussions yesterday?  Nobody was unwilling to do anything, where did you get this?  The forfeit issue was not mentioned until today.  No one told your AD that LSU wanted to play the game under a hurricane.

With no hurricane wouldn't everyone have wanted to play Saturday?  OF COURSE.  That is what everyone meant by having a preference to play as scheduled.  Most everyone here expected the SECCG to moved back one week and this game would have been the last of the regular season.

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Dude, read the link. it states that we were ready to forfeit.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it took all day long for L$U's AD to decide to move the game. 2 conference calls and a threat to forfeit later, they decide to move it.

With no hurricane, of course we would have wanted to play Saturday. But that has nothing to do with this situation AT ALL.

The fact is L$U was unwilling to budge until the threat of losing lots of money from this game was waived in front of them. Forfieting is the LAST option, which, unfortunately, L$U, by not cooperating, made UT bring to the table.

 

[U-T]

Originally posted by OldVol@Sep 23, 2005 11:06 AM
How do you conclude that we want out of this game?

Is it unreasonable to expect that a game should be played at a place and time when all of the fans who want to be there, can be there?

In this utterly ridiculous and extreme circumstance, I don't think we should expect 100% of our fans to be properly put in Baton Rouge...no, I don't. Sucks and Unfair? Yes....Something we just need to deal with? Yes.

When you have player's parents calling, saying, "My kid is not flying INTO a hurricane," what would you suggest the athletic dept. tell them?

Hurricane isn't coming to Baton Rouge

When you have fans, by the thousands, who want to go, but can't because of unreasonable logistics, how is it the fault of the team who is trying to work around the problem.

Life is unfair.

There were BIGGER issues at hand prior to Rita.

And they dealt with those issues. Before Rita, they had the housing for most UT fans, gas/food/bars for ALL UT fans, and everything else needed for a game. Not sure why that is such a dang hard concept to understand on this board.

 

[GoTide]

Originally posted by volbrian@Sep 23, 2005 12:18 PM
Havent you got a player payment you need to make?

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Okay, I have to admit that's funny. But it's now players who were paid, it was a recruit. Unless you know something I don't. And I, for one, am glad the punishment was served. Now, I'm ready to play some football.

 

[VolBeef88]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 23, 2005 12:34 PM
OK, I am mainly speaking of Phil. I think he is using this Hurricane to protect the vulnerability of his program and staff though.

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How do you get that? He did not want to fly into a storm? If so why didn't they say another weekend or nothing? I don't think so. Coach has messed up on the qb situation this year and I can't believe some of the mistakes this year and we should run more. But I have no doubt that coach would play any team any time.