UT was ready to forfeit

#26
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Originally posted by LSUfan71@Sep 23, 2005 12:22 PM
It's clear?  To who?  What is clear to you?  This decision can only be made by the Commissioner with input by the AD's.  Everyone would have had a preference to play Saturday, do you actually think he meant with the hurricane?  It would have been just as easy for you to assume that he would have preferred for the hurricane to not be here.

You're putting a spin on this with no evidence to support what he meant by preference.
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It's clear the commissioner FORCED LSU to change it, even with the cane coming, even with the fact that it will be far more difficult for UT fans to attend on Monday than LSU fans, even with all of that, he still had to be FORCED by the commissioner.

With reckless disregard, he still wanted it on Saturday Evening.

That is clear.

Now, we all would have liked for there to have been no Katrina, no Rita, but the simple facts of life are that Katrina was and Rita is.

That is clear.

It’s just a shame that greed has driven the LSU AD. One of the LSU fans here, maybe you pointed to the financial pinch this has put on LSU.

That is clear.

I do understand their need for money, just like everyone's, but there were reasonable options where the finances could have been juggled by both sides, to everyone's best interest.

That is clear.

LSU was far too stubborn in this.

That is clear.

If the situation were reversed I can't help but believe you would feel the same.
 
#27
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Originally posted by orangetd88@Sep 23, 2005 12:40 PM
read the link.  it states that we were ready to forfeit.
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Read the link?

Why would he want to do that? He couldn't continue to defend the greed mongers in the LSU athletic department if he did something like, well, you know .... research the information. :p
 
#28
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Originally posted by U-T@Sep 23, 2005 12:42 PM
Hurricane isn't coming to Baton Rouge
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But it's too damn close to promise a flight in and out of the area.

Most of you are missing the very large point that Delta was not promising a flight in or out of the area on 09/24.
 
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Maybe the AD was being advised by the Mayor of NO and the Gov...Are they putting dumbo in the Gumbo down there?
 
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How many of you Tennessee fans would be willing to not have a basketball or baseball team this spring????

Maybe kill the women's basketball team because of lack of funding...

Football is the breadwinner.......

 
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Originally posted by U-T@Sep 23, 2005 12:42 PM

Hurricane isn't coming to Baton Rouge

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Have you not looked at any of the weather models for this.

Here's the forecast for Baton Rouge.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/forecasts/LAZ048.php?zo=1

Winds at game time are expected 25 mph.

As for the rooms for the game prior to Rita, you just clearly don't know what you're talking about.

I know of a group that was planning to caravan in and out Saturday due to no accomodations. Many have had their rooms canceled, which isn't a big deal. But don't make out like everything was going to be normal in BR prior to Rita. Our team was still flying in and out the same day of the game.

There are bigger issues in life. But just because there are bigger issues in life than a game does not mean you have the right to ignore the wishes of your opponents. Afterall, it is just a game, and since it is, what would be the harm with working with people instead of against them?
 
#32
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Originally posted by orangetd88@Sep 23, 2005 12:40 PM
Dude, read the link.  it states that we were ready to forfeit.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it took all day long for L$U's AD to decide to move the game.  2 conference calls and a threat to forfeit later, they decide to move it.

With no hurricane, of course we would have wanted to play Saturday.  But that has nothing to do with this situation AT ALL.

The fact is L$U was unwilling to budge until the threat of losing lots of money from this game was waived in front of them.  Forfieting is the LAST option, which, unfortunately, L$U, by not cooperating, made UT bring to the table.
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The decision was made by the Commish, not the ADs. Again, what is your source about threats of the forfeit being made in the discussions that occurred behind closed doors? LSU not cooperating? What is your source? Where did you get this? I'm really not about being personal and I'm not about getting involved in flames on these boards but I must alledge that you are simply fabricating this stuff you if can't post a link to your source.
 
#33
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Originally posted by CAt Squirrel@Sep 23, 2005 12:54 PM
How many of you Tennessee fans would be willing to not have a basketball or baseball team this spring????

Maybe kill the women's basketball team because of lack of funding...

Football is the breadwinner.......
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There were other options. Don't act like the LSU option is the only option.

That's really an unbalanced perspective.

The only option LSU was willing to accept, until the SEC forced the issue, was their option.

That's not how you do business.
 
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if you read the article - the quotes form the UT AD state that we would have forfeited the game.

Now I see your point - it does not state in plain fact that we threated that to get tit moved - however it is sad that this story was even written - needless garbage that is put out to fire people up. Come on guys - the decision has been made - lets just forget about all the crap we have no control over and get ready to watch UT beat LSU into a pulp!!! :bash:
 
#35
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Originally posted by OldVol@Sep 23, 2005 11:56 AM
As for the rooms for the game prior to Rita, you just clearly don't know what you're talking about.

I know of a group that was planning to caravan in and out Saturday due to no accomodations. Many have had their rooms canceled, which isn't a big deal. But don't make out like everything was going to be normal in BR prior to Rita.
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Yes, there were plenty of hotel rooms available for UT fans..pre-Rita.

I do in fact know EXACTLY what I am talking about when several families I know got hotels in and around Baton Rouge 4 days ago and could have extended those stays through the weekend.

If you want confirmation of these families, just PM me and you can call them for crying out loud.

But just because there are bigger issues in life than a game does not mean you have the right to ignore the wishes of your opponents.
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Good lord, spare me the "life" talk...you are the typical whining fan who wants to use the "life" talk as just a tool to get UT out of this game and move it away from Baton Rouge with little to no knowledge of what really is going on. It is laughable.

After working for FEMA as a volunteer for almost a week after Katrina in Baton Rouge, I know exactly what is and isn't important with "life" in this area.

There was ZERO life threating conditions in Baton Rouge BEFORE RITA.

ZERO.

You can try and act as if LSU and their school are the bad guys but they had every right to keep this game in baton rouge before this Hurricane hit.
 
#36
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The issue, at least currently, is the hurricane coming through. Moving the game before Rita was not going to be an option. Those who say "I told you so" are indeed wrong in that instance. But now, with the new circumstances, changing the date of the game was the right thing to do, end of story.
 
#38
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Originally posted by U-T@Sep 23, 2005 1:03 PM
Yes, there were plenty of hotel rooms available for UT fans..pre-Rita.

I do in fact know EXACTLY what I am talking about when several families I know got hotels in and around Baton Rouge 4 days ago and could have extended those stays through the weekend.

If you want confirmation of these families, just PM me and you can call them for crying out loud.
Good lord, spare me the "life" talk...you are the typical whining fan who wants to use the "life" talk as just a tool to get UT out of this game and move it away from Baton Rouge with little to no knowledge of what really is going on. It is laughable.

After working for FEMA as a volunteer for almost a week after Katrina in Baton Rouge, I know exactly what is and isn't important with "life" in this area.

There was ZERO life threating conditions in Baton Rouge BEFORE RITA.

ZERO.

You can try and act as if LSU and their school are the bad guys but they had every right to keep this game in baton rouge before this Hurricane hit.
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You know nothing of me.

You attack opinion with rhetoric.

I am done with ya.
 
#39
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Of course they had the right to keep it there before Rita.

However, Rita is here. To assert that anyone who is second guessing that decision or questioning the motivation of LSU AD simply wants to avoid the game or have it played elsewhere from BR is utterly ridiculous. Bring it on. It's just a flippin football game.

The quote from the news stories implies that the LSU AD was pushing for Sat. night DESPITE the threats associated with Rita and the the safety concerns were on behalf of the commissioner and UT's AD. Perhaps the quote is out of context or incomplete.

As for the gentleman from LSU asking for the "source", it's an AP story out of Knoxville that is reported in the Tennessean (see home page for Vol Nation). Do you contend that the quote is fabricated?
 
#40
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Originally posted by volinbham@Sep 23, 2005 1:13 PM
Of course they had the right to keep it there before Rita.

However, Rita is here.  To assert that anyone who is second guessing that decision or questioning the motivation of LSU AD simply wants to avoid the game or have it played elsewhere from BR is utterly ridiculous.  Bring it on.  It's just a flippin football game. 

The quote from the news stories implies that the LSU AD was pushing for Sat. night DESPITE the threats associated with Rita and the the safety concerns were on behalf of the commissioner and UT's AD.  Perhaps the quote is out of context or incomplete.

As for the gentleman from LSU asking for the "source", it's an AP story out of Knoxville that is reported in the Tennessean (see home page for Vol Nation).  Do you contend that the quote is fabricated?
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Your assessment is dead on and clear to anyone who doesn't have a PERSONAL issue to promote.

 
#41
#41
What personal issue am I trying to promote?

I am simply stating facts. There were rooms available Pre-Rita. The city was able to handle a game. There was gas. There was food. There was room.

You are making guesses at what people were trying to do without even getting the facts correct.

I have yet to ever state that right now we should be playing. BR is not in a condition tomm to play a game. I would agree. But Pre-Rita, it was.
 
#42
#42
OK guys, there is no need to turn this into a personal issue. We're all UT fans and looking out for the best interest of our team and fans.
 
#43
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I swear, I don't ever remember this much talk about before a game that actually has nothing to do with the game itself. LOL
 
#44
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Looks like the hurricane is affecting BR after all.
 

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#45
#45
Originally posted by orangetd88@Sep 23, 2005 1:32 PM
OK guys, there is no need to turn this into a personal issue.  We're all UT fans and looking out for the best interest of our team and fans.
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Some folks wait to see which side of an argument certain posters take, then they start shooting from the opposite view.

That's fine.

People see through it though.

When I know it's happening. I let 'em talk to themselves. :p
 
#46
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Originally posted by allvol@Sep 23, 2005 12:33 PM
Looks like the hurricane is affecting BR after all.
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I am about 40 miles East of Baton Rouge and it is raining and gusty (about up to 20-30mph)...

Good thing is that the storms are moving very quickly so the rain isn't sitting over us
 
#48
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Originally posted by OldVol@Sep 23, 2005 12:39 PM
Some folks wait to see which side of an argument certain posters take, then they start shooting from the opposite view.
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Yet some go to the actual city and see whats going on while others use CNN as their backbone in arguments
 
#49
#49
Originally posted by OldVol@Sep 23, 2005 12:41 PM
You reckon?  :biggrin2:

Of a more serious nature, we do need to remember the city of NO in our prayers. It appears they are going to be submerged again.

Heart breaking!
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Incorrect. The 9th Ward and New Orleans East will be submerged but neither were occupied outside of some Marines who are being moved out. Industrial Canal is what broke while some of the others are holding.

17th Street Canal which caused the flooding earlier should hold out as long as these storms don't sit over us.

Downtown New Orleans should be fine unless rain sits over us consistently over the night, which COULD happen.
 
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Originally posted by GoTide@Sep 23, 2005 12:42 PM
. Now, I'm ready to play some football.
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Then how about you leaving your "Gospel According to Gallion" out of the football discussions.
 
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