UT's 2014 opponents 2013 records

#52
#52
chatt-townVOL said:
You think he is right that if we did a "best players between 2007 and 2013" they still wouldn't be as good as the 2007 Florida team?

C'mon.
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Yes. Eric Berry and Dan Williams were our best defensive players during that era. They had two QBs on that roster better than any we had during this time period.
 
#53
#53
govols09 said:
Yes. Eric Berry and Dan Williams were our best defensive players during that era. They had two QBs on that roster better than any we had during this time period.
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Jerod Mayo was also very good. Sadly, you're still correct.
 
#54
#54
Notorious B.E.N said:
Watch more than that game. When he was a freshman he went in to Auburn and was a lucky onside kick away from beating Auburn. Chucky Keaton is good, Utah St isn't a cupcake.
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They're a very good team. They are extremely well coached as Gary still has players from his Era. Matt Wells is a good coach in his own right also. If Gary was still there, I'd be extremely worried.
 
#55
#55
SeniorDrill said:
Utah State 9-5 Poinsetta Bowl
Arkansas State 8-5 Go Daddy Bowl
Oklahoma 11-2 Sugar Bowl
Georgia 8-5 Gator Bowl
Florida 4-8
Chattanooga 8-4
Ole Miss 8-5 Music City Bowl
Alabama 11-2 Sugar Bowl
South Carolina 11-2 Capital One Bowl
Kentucky 2-10
Missouri 12-2 Cotton Bowl
Vanderbilt 9-4 Compass Bowl
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Kentucky only should be lock
Ut st vandy florida are games we should win
thats 4 wins
we may be able to sneak 4 in
but also, we could get 8 wins... unlikely, but possible
 
#58
#58
Notorious B.E.N said:
Watch more than that game. When he was a freshman he went in to Auburn and was a lucky onside kick away from beating Auburn. Chucky Keaton is good, Utah St isn't a cupcake.
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Keeton is a very good QB. He was on the heisman watchlist last year, and while he wouldn't have won, he was having a really good season when he went down and might have made it to the ceremony (though i think lynch was going no matter what). The Weber game highlights are ok, but he only played one half (and broke the school single game TD passing record in those 2 quarters). As good as he is, the real strength is the defense. Our defense was top 5 last year and top 8 the year before, IIRC. That is based on statistics against easier teams (wac/mwc teams) than you play, and of course tenn played some marginally good defenses in the SEC, but USU is certainly no slouch. Last leason, USU held opponents to 116 fewer yards than that team's season average. That's helpful because it adjusts for strength of the offense compared to other teams, but again, I know you guys play some tough D teams.

As for the comparison to Shaw, I think keeton and shaw are pretty different. shaw is built a little bigger and takes on contact more than keeton. both are very efficient passers (1 int for shaw in 284 attempts, 2 for keeton in 196) but keeton is more accurate (both by eye and by stats, 63% vs 69%). I notice shaw's only pick was against you and that he went 7/21. seems like an aberration compared to the rest of the season, but it is clear the coaches had an excellent game plan for him. I'm sure they will for CK too if they plan for USU over the summer.
 
#59
#59
JackHVFL said:
Kentucky only should be lock
Ut st vandy florida are games we should win
thats 4 wins
we may be able to sneak 4 in
but also, we could get 8 wins... unlikely, but possible
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This is how I would guess for your season to go

USU- W 20-17
ASU- W 37-14
Oklahoma- L 38-24
Georgia- L 37-31
Florida- W 21-20
Chatt- W 52-3
Ole Miss- L 34-24
Bama- L 48-14
USC- L 20-10
Kentucky- W 41-24
Mizzou- L 28-24
Vandy- W 28-27

So I'll predict you finish somewhere between 5 and 7 wins, with a 10% chance of 4 and a 10% chance of 8.

I even provided scores so you could tell me what a stupid idiot I am because Kentucky won't score 24 and you'll score way more than 20 against USU.
 
#60
#60
I can see us beating USCe again if things are clicking. Georgia will have a lot to fix on defense. We always play those two teams well even when we are down. Honestly I can see 7 wins with a chance at 8. For some reason I'm just not worried about ole miss.
 
#61
#61
ficklez said:
This is how I would guess for your season to go

USU- W 20-17
ASU- W 37-14
Oklahoma- L 38-24
Georgia- L 37-31
Florida- W 21-20
Chatt- W 52-3
Ole Miss- L 34-24
Bama- L 48-14
USC- L 20-10
Kentucky- W 41-24
Mizzou- L 28-24
Vandy- W 28-27

So I'll predict you finish somewhere between 5 and 7 wins, with a 10% chance of 4 and a 10% chance of 8.

I even provided scores so you could tell me what a stupid idiot I am because Kentucky won't score 24 and you'll score way more than 20 against USU.
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I don't think the Vandy game is that close. Other than that, seems about right. If we're favored to beat UF, then I'll add one more win that we aren't favored.
 
#62
#62
ficklez said:
Keeton is a very good QB. He was on the heisman watchlist last year, and while he wouldn't have won, he was having a really good season when he went down and might have made it to the ceremony (though i think lynch was going no matter what). The Weber game highlights are ok, but he only played one half (and broke the school single game TD passing record in those 2 quarters). As good as he is, the real strength is the defense. Our defense was top 5 last year and top 8 the year before, IIRC. That is based on statistics against easier teams (wac/mwc teams) than you play, and of course tenn played some marginally good defenses in the SEC, but USU is certainly no slouch. Last leason, USU held opponents to 116 fewer yards than that team's season average. That's helpful because it adjusts for strength of the offense compared to other teams, but again, I know you guys play some tough D teams.

As for the comparison to Shaw, I think keeton and shaw are pretty different. shaw is built a little bigger and takes on contact more than keeton. both are very efficient passers (1 int for shaw in 284 attempts, 2 for keeton in 196) but keeton is more accurate (both by eye and by stats, 63% vs 69%). I notice shaw's only pick was against you and that he went 7/21. seems like an aberration compared to the rest of the season, but it is clear the coaches had an excellent game plan for him. I'm sure they will for CK too if they plan for USU over the summer.
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The season will be determined by Tenn. qb play, hopefully Ferguson.. if like last year including qb injuries and inconsistent play, very long season. If Ferguson excels, much to be excited about, including big 2015 season....
 
#64
#64
SeniorDrill said:
Utah State 9-5 Poinsetta Bowl
Arkansas State 8-5 Go Daddy Bowl
Oklahoma 11-2 Sugar Bowl
Georgia 8-5 Gator Bowl
Florida 4-8
Chattanooga 8-4
Ole Miss 8-5 Music City Bowl
Alabama 11-2 Sugar Bowl
South Carolina 11-2 Capital One Bowl
Kentucky 2-10
Missouri 12-2 Cotton Bowl
Vanderbilt 9-4 Compass Bowl
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The schedule may look very difficult when comparing previous season records and looking ahead to the 2014 season. However, it can be misleading as well. There are changes within the roster, staff and overall team chemistry that can take a team from having a very successful season the previous year, to an average or below average year the following year (i.e. Tennessee 2007/2008).
 
#65
#65
Boca Vol said:
No kidding!

People look at 2007 and see where UT went to the SECCG while ignoring the beatdowns from UF and Bama.
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Classic example of CPF "backing" in to SECCG.
 
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