Vacationing a human right

#76
#76
BeecherVol said:
Just an analogy, so don't take this too far.

If you feed a stray dog on your back porch long enough, sooner or late hes gonna want to come inside to boot.

It won't stop with Obamacare.
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i get where you're coming from. i just don't think we'll ever get to that point where everybody gets a "free" vacation.

if we do, i'll be disappointed and wouldn't vote for that person.
 
#77
#77
Cash Vallin said:
in terms of pay, nope... we can't all be equal and nor should we...

i have no problem with people getting rich. but doing it on the back of the poor is unethical to me.
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Explain this a little more. I kinda have an idea of what you are getting at.
 
#80
#80
Cash Vallin said:
i get where you're coming from. i just don't think we'll ever get to that point where everybody gets a "free" vacation.

if we do, i'll be disappointed and wouldn't vote for that person.
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Im not sure we will either, but you will have a segment of people that will take government programs to the max, and plead their case for all kinds of additional silly stuff.
 
#81
#81
when you have a CEO making millions while paying employees minimum wage, that isn't right to me.

yes, i know, that CEO has a specialized skill set and should receive quite a bit more that a cashier. but without the cashier, that CEO isn't making millions. it's all combined for the CEO, and because of that, I think there should be more gratitude shown to the cashiers of the world.
 
#83
#83
Cash Vallin said:
when you have a CEO making millions while paying employees minimum wage, that isn't right to me.

yes, i know, that CEO has a specialized skill set and should receive quite a bit more that a cashier. but without the cashier, that CEO isn't making millions. it's all combined for the CEO, and because of that, I think there should be more gratitude shown to the cashiers of the world.
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Is the CEO forcing cashiers to work? Does he not show gratitude.

Which is harder to come by, equity capital from stockholders or cashiers? Whose ass should he be kissing?
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#86
#86
BigPapaVol said:
Is the CEO forcing cashiers to work? Does he not show gratitude.

Which is harder to come by, equity capital from stockholders or cashiers? Whose ass should he be kissing?
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Simple, but good point.

I made it earlier.
 
#87
#87
OrangeEmpire said:
I will if they have no desire to work to better themselves.

:hi:
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see, you're classifying all poor as those that don't want to work. that's simply not true. there are some that just want a hand out. but there are others where all they can do is be a cashier. Those are the ones, I have no problem giving a little extra.
 
#88
#88
BigPapaVol said:
Is the CEO forcing cashiers to work? Does he not show gratitude.

Which is harder to come by, equity capital from stockholders or cashiers? Whose ass should he be kissing?
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Naw, he's not... He just better hope they all don't walk out or he aint making that millions.
 
#90
#90
Cash Vallin said:
see, you're classifying all poor as those that don't want to work. that's simply not true. there are some that just want a hand out. but there are others where all they can do is be a cashier. Those are the ones, I have no problem giving a little extra.
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So pay more than the skill is worth? Where does one draw the line? Do they need to consult the CV ethical guide for Dummies?
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#91
#91
Cash Vallin said:
Naw, he's not... He just better hope they all don't walk out or he aint making that millions.
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But see, he's simply doing what markets dictate. The day he's unfair, people will walk. Until then, people will take the job.
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#92
#92
Cash Vallin said:
see, you're classifying all poor as those that don't want to work. that's simply not true. there are some that just want a hand out. but there are others where all they can do is be a cashier. Those are the ones, I have no problem giving a little extra.
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you are ready way too much into what he said
 
#94
#94
Cash Vallin said:
when you have a CEO making millions while paying employees minimum wage, that isn't right to me.

yes, i know, that CEO has a specialized skill set and should receive quite a bit more that a cashier. but without the cashier, that CEO isn't making millions. it's all combined for the CEO, and because of that, I think there should be more gratitude shown to the cashiers of the world.
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Like others have mentioned, and I just posted in a response in another thread, the cashier chooses to continue to work for these companies because they are better off because of it. An employee intrinsically understands their value to employers. If the cashier believed they were worth more than they were being offered, the cashier would choose not to work for the employer making that offer. In the cashier's position, he/she understands that they have few skills that would separate them from the ordinary labor employee and, thus, their labor value is low. Although the cashier may not be offered anything near the millions offered to the CEO, they know they are receiving a net benefit from the employment. Sure they want more than the wage they are offered. That is human nature. That doesn't mean the company isn't paying them what they are worth.
 
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#96
#96
BigPapaVol said:
So pay more than the skill is worth? Where does one draw the line? Do they need to consult the CV ethical guide for Dummies?
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when a company is a multi-billion dollar company, that unskilled labor is worth a heck of a lot more than minimum wage.

just because the law says you can get away with it, doesn't make it an ethical decision.
 
#98
#98
Cash Vallin said:
see, you're classifying all poor as those that don't want to work. that's simply not true. there are some that just want a hand out. but there are others where all they can do is be a cashier. Those are the ones, I have no problem giving a little extra.
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I did those jobs and worked my tail off and went to school and have a decent life now.

Why can't other people do this?
 
#99
#99
BigPapaVol said:
But see, he's simply doing what markets dictate. The day he's unfair, people will walk. Until then, people will take the job.
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No, people take the job because they have bills to pay. it has little to do with how fair the company is.
 
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