Vaccine or not?

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#26,676
DC_Vol said:
No offense, but i suspect you’re operating from a position with a bias for the pilot.

This isn’t that hard. He could have just stopped the airplane until they had safely passed.
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I found a picture of you and hog.
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Your chain has been yanked.
 
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VolinWayne said:
They should make it illegal for any person in politics to own stocks in pharmaceutical companies. That's your problem right there. 83 Republicans voted no and all but one Dem voted no. This is absolutely insane given what we now know about the jab
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Does two wrongs make a right though?

There should have never been a govt mandate to begin with and the govt should not mandate the rehiring of the employees.

The decision to rehire should be up to airlines, not the govt....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Does two wrongs make a right though?

There should have never been a govt mandate to begin with and the govt should not mandate the rehiring of the employees.

The decision to rehire should be up to airlines, not the govt....
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Does two wrongs make a right though?

There should have never been a govt mandate to begin with and the govt should not mandate the rehiring of the employees.

The decision to rehire should be up to airlines, not the govt....
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Its not like they really need these pilots anyway right? I havent hesrd anything aboit shortages of pilots. I do sort of get your point by the way. Given what we now know about the covid vaccine I still believe the pilots should at a minimum be financially reimbursed in some way. If the government mandated it they should be the ones held responsible.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
On a related note, Congress is looking at raising the 'retirement' age for pilots form 65 to 67. Many of us that will be affected in the next few years are very much in favor of this change. Our 'union' is fighting it under the auspices of 'safety'. Every year, each of the major airlines will lose over 10 MILLION flight hours of experience each because of this mandatory age limit. That equates to 500 pilots/year at each airline. It took me 32 years of flying to accumulate 22,000 hours of flight experience. Because of the expansion in the industry post FauciFlu, over half of our seniority list has right less than 7 years with the company. With each passing year, as we replace the high time pilots with low time ones, that average seniority (experience) will become smaller. My question to you is who do you want in that cockpit when things go bad. Ask yourself who was in control when USAir 1549 went into the Hudson.

There is a petition to keep us in the cockpit where we belong. I appreciate your help

Can you spare a minute to help this campaign?
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What is your opinion about reducing the number of flight hours to where it was around 2009 or 2010? Off the top of my head (going off of memory so my numbers are not exact), but it was around 800-1000 before something happened to make them push it to 1500 or so. Hell, before 2010, it may have even been as low as 500 hours.
 
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Cases of myocarditis soared among U.S. service members in 2021 after the COVID-19 vaccines were rolled out, a top Pentagon official has confirmed.

There were 275 cases of myocarditis in 2021—a 151 percent spike from the annual average from 2016 to 2020, according to Gilbert Cisneros Jr., undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, who confirmed data revealed by a whistleblower earlier this year.

US Military Confirms Myocarditis Spike After COVID Vaccine Introduction
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What is your opinion about reducing the number of flight hours to where it was around 2009 or 2010? Off the top of my head (going off of memory so my numbers are not exact), but it was around 800-1000 before something happened to make them push it to 1500 or so. Hell, before 2010, it may have even been as low as 500 hours.
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The something that happened was Colgan flight 3407.

I had a huge missive written about this, and this morning I hit the delete button before posting. IMHO, this industry needs to raise the barriers to entry, not to lower them. There is a whole generation of pilots out there that have no concept of the really dark parts of this industry. Colgan was the last 'high' fatality accident and it happened in 2009. A 30 year old pilot was still in high school when that happened. Before that the last one was November of 2001. (American 587 in NY) I'm an old fart. I remember all those days and I take nothing for granted. I can only hope/pray that the new generation does the same. Flying is easy and fun when everything goes right. When it doesn't, you might be 3 hours or more from a runway that you can even land on. THAT is when you need that experience.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
On a related note, Congress is looking at raising the 'retirement' age for pilots form 65 to 67. Many of us that will be affected in the next few years are very much in favor of this change. Our 'union' is fighting it under the auspices of 'safety'. Every year, each of the major airlines will lose over 10 MILLION flight hours of experience each because of this mandatory age limit. That equates to 500 pilots/year at each airline. It took me 32 years of flying to accumulate 22,000 hours of flight experience. Because of the expansion in the industry post FauciFlu, over half of our seniority list has right less than 7 years with the company. With each passing year, as we replace the high time pilots with low time ones, that average seniority (experience) will become smaller. My question to you is who do you want in that cockpit when things go bad. Ask yourself who was in control when USAir 1549 went into the Hudson.

There is a petition to keep us in the cockpit where we belong. I appreciate your help

Can you spare a minute to help this campaign?
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signed.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
The something that happened was Colgan flight 3407.

I had a huge missive written about this, and this morning I hit the delete button before posting. IMHO, this industry needs to raise the barriers to entry, not to lower them. There is a whole generation of pilots out there that have no concept of the really dark parts of this industry. Colgan was the last 'high' fatality accident and it happened in 2009. A 30 year old pilot was still in high school when that happened. Before that the last one was November of 2001. (American 587 in NY) I'm an old fart. I remember all those days and I take nothing for granted. I can only hope/pray that the new generation does the same. Flying is easy and fun when everything goes right. When it doesn't, you might be 3 hours or more from a runway that you can even land on. THAT is when you need that experience.
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Well, it looks like you Boomers need to get to teaching the next generation of pilots.
 
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Orangeburst said:
FDA Approves New Anthrax Vaccine for Adults Despite Lack of Publicly Available Information on Testing, Ingredients

here we go
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Interesting... because this came out about a day or two ago. This must be the next panic...

4 anthrax-infected Russians leave Siberian hospital without authorization - National | Globalnews.ca

Four patients infected with anthrax escaped a hospital in the Tuva region of southern Siberia before they could be fully treated, according to a statement from the regional health ministry.
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“Four patients hospitalized with anthrax refused treatment at the (region’s) infectious diseases hospital and left the medical facility without authorization,” said the regional arm of Rospotrebnadzor, Russia’s federal public health watchdog.
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https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2306683

'Healthy Vaccinee Bias' May Have Led to Inflated Efficacy Claims of Pfizer's COVID-19 Booster, Researchers Find

In a Letter to the Editor published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) on July 20, epidemiologist Dr. Tracy Høeg, physician-scientist Dr. Vinay Prasad, and Dr. Ram Duriseti from Stanford School of Medicine stated that a 2021 Israeli study on Pfizer’s COVID-19 booster may have overestimated the vaccine’s effectiveness by concluding those who received a booster had 90 percent lower mortality due to COVID-19 than non-boosted participants.

The group analyzed deaths attributed to COVID-19 in both the 2021 study and in a later statement by the same study authors to estimate mortality not associated with the virus based on a person’s vaccination status. The mortality unrelated to COVID-19 in the boosted group was compared to mortality unrelated to COVID-19 in the non-boosted group.

The authors found a 94.8 percent lower mortality unrelated to COVID-19 among participants in the boosted group and a “markedly lower incidence of adverse health outcomes” in the same group. Additionally, COVID-19 mortality, whether boosted or not, was essentially the same in the 2021 study, generating a “strong concern” vaccine efficacy was overestimated.
 
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They need more testing on animals, but on you humans... it is OK for you.

Livestock Health: mRNA Vaccine vs Conventional Vaccines | UT Beef & Forage Center

“There are no current mRNA vaccines licensed for use in beef cattle in the United States. Cattle farmers and ranchers do vaccinate cattle to treat and prevent many diseases, but presently none of these vaccines include mRNA technology.”

  • Research on mRNA vaccines for use in livestock has been ongoing for more than a decade, which suggests that at some point mRNA vaccines may be available for use in U.S. cattle. However, this will not happen before there has been sufficient research and significant layers of government review and approval.
  • Modified-live vaccines containing RNA from viruses such as bovine viral diarrhea virus (BVDV), bovine respiratory syncytial virus (BRSV), rotavirus, and coronavirus have been licensed and used by U.S. producers for many years.
  • No vaccines currently licensed in the U.S. for administration to cattle were produced using mRNA technology.
  • Currently there are no mRNA vaccines licensed for use in cattle in the U.S. New prescription vaccines in swine can use RNA of specific viruses, which is similar to mRNA vaccines, but not exactly the same.
  • Regardless of the vaccine technology, the components of vaccines are ‘digested’ or broken down by immune cells after they are given so the components do not persist in animal tissues for long periods of time.
  • Following the withdrawal times on vaccine labels helps to ensure that meat from vaccinated animals is safe to consume.
 
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