Vaccine or not?

[NorthDallas40]

I thought it was that he couldn’t smell.

We’re talking about your lousy taste in football uniforms right now. Keep up

 

[Orangeslice13]

Nope. See my answer to kiddiedoc.

I did. It’s still stupid and counterproductive

 

[NorthDallas40]

I did. It’s still stupid and counterproductive

No where nearly as stupid and counterproductive as telling someone else how to manage their own health. I know you believe it’s everyone’s personal choice. So do I. I’m just a bit more direct in telling people to mind their own damn business.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

That name may be dumber than “red hats”

There most certainly is a COVID cult and it has a ton of members.

 

[Orangeslice13]

No where nearly as stupid and counterproductive as telling someone else how to manage their own health. I know you believe it’s everyone’s personal choice. So do I. I’m just a bit more direct in telling people to mind their own damn business.

See I agree with you there. Each person should decide for themselves what to do about the vaccine. Companies should decide if they are mandating masks or vaccines. The government should stay the **** out of it. Pro vaccine people calling the anti vaccine people flat earthers is just as stupid as the “branch covidions “ stupidity

 

[Orangeslice13]

There most certainly is a COVID cult and it has a ton of members.

As is the anti-vaxers cult.

you guys are 2 sides of the same coin only looking at the information you think supports your beliefs.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

As is the anti-vaxers cult.

you guys are 2 sides of the same coin only looking at the information you think supports your beliefs.

Why do you use the term anti vax? Have you seen anyone actually say they are actually anti vaccine?

And the vaccine supporters do the exact same thing. They claim to follow the science. Except when that science flies in the face of their beliefs. But you keep on pushing for that shot though.

 

[NorthDallas40]

See I agree with you there. Each person should decide for themselves what to do about the vaccine. Companies should decide if they are mandating masks or vaccines. The government should stay the **** out of it. Pro vaccine people calling the anti vaccine people flat earthers is just as stupid as the “branch covidions “ stupidity

I know you agree. Like I said I’m just a bit more aggressive and put a label on the nosy a-holes that won’t mind their own business.

People who discuss the various options are fine. Offering an opinion is fine too. Anybody dictating what somebody else should do and being a self important a-hole on others who don’t comply with their view are branch covidiots. M4V and EL fit that label to a T

 

[Orangeslice13]

Why do you use the term anti vax? Have you seen anyone actually say they are actually anti vaccine?

And the vaccine supporters do the exact same thing. They claim to follow the science. Except when that science flies in the face of their beliefs. But you keep on pushing for that shot though.

Are you anti vaccine?

And

When have I ever pushed the shot?
I’ve been consistent that each person should decide for themselves.
Step away from your cult BOT. It’s ok if you want to think for yourself. You don’t have to do what the anti-vaccine crowd tells you to

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Are you anti vaccine?

And

When have I ever pushed the shot?
I’ve been consistent that each person should decide for themselves.
Step away from your cult BOT. It’s ok if you want to think for yourself. You don’t have to do what the anti-vaccine crowd tells you to

Anti vaccine? Absolutely not. So you just assume anyone who doesn’t eat the shot is anti vaccine? If so, why?

Also, what cult am I in? Maybe you don’t push the shot but ever since you have gotten it you have been saying how good it is and it works.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I know you agree. Like I said I’m just a bit more aggressive and put a label on the nosy a-holes that won’t mind their own business.

People who discuss the various options are fine. Offering an opinion is fine too. Anybody dictating what somebody else should do and being a self important a-hole on others who don’t comply with their view are branch covidiots. M4V and EL fit that label to a T

But by “being a bit aggressive “ you damage your credibility on the subject. It also creates a divide among those who otherwise would discuss things rationally.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Anti vaccine? Absolutely not. So you just assume anyone who doesn’t eat the shot is anti vaccine? If so, why?

Also, what cult am I in?

So you’re pro vaccine?
Interesting approach, with the reverse psychology and whatnot

 

[NorthDallas40]

But by “being a bit aggressive “ you damage your credibility on the subject. It also creates a divide among those who otherwise would discuss things rationally.

Nah. The divide is already there and isn’t gonna go away with the specific ones I’m labeling. You chose a “turn the other cheek” approach which is admirable. I’ve just always been more of a “show the middle finger” approach kinda guy is all

 

[Orangeslice13]

Nah. The divide is already there and isn’t gonna go away with the specific ones I’m labeling. You chose a “turn the other cheek” approach which is admirable. I’ve just always been more of a “show the middle finger” approach kinda guy is all

Which expands the problem. I consider you to be reasonable most of the time (except when dealing with the obvious troll) if the reasonable give up on free exchange of ideas then it truly is over.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Which expands the problem. I consider you to be reasonable most of the time (except when dealing with the obvious troll) if the reasonable give up on free exchange of ideas then it truly is over.

But that’s it. When I’m not dealing with the obvious trolls I try to respond in kind. That’s all. I don’t see any real reason to cut M4V or El or others of that kind any slack they’ve earned the harassment the get. Hell they attract it.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Maybe you don’t push the shot but ever since you have gotten it you have been saying how good it is and it works.

yes, I can say that I believe the data supports getting the vaccine and I think it’s a good idea and still believe and say that it’s none of the government’s business what each of us decide to do. It’s also consistent that you can read the same data and believe that you think it’s a bad idea and you should not take it.

There’s no need to label everyone who disagrees with you as a “nut”

 

[Orangeslice13]

But that’s it. When I’m not dealing with the obvious trolls I try to respond in kind. That’s all. I don’t see any real reason to cut M4V or El or others of that kind any slack they’ve earned the harassment the get. Hell they attract it.

But that’s not what you we’re actually doing. You have expanded beyond those specific people. Call el a clown. He/she has earned it. But labeling a group with out definition of who that group is devalues and derails the productivity of debate.

You get the last word if you want it

 

[Orangeslice13]

Unbelievable
Freaking Clemson

Edit: wrong thread

 

[NorthDallas40]

But that’s not what you we’re actually doing. You have expanded beyond those specific people. Call el a clown. He/she has earned it. But labeling a group with out definition of who that group is devalues and derails the productivity of debate.

You get the last word if you want it

Lol my last word is “Go Vols!” tomorrow. I got zero beef with you my brother. We just don’t agree on how to deal with asshats is all. Eh no big deal.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Unbelievable
Freaking Clemson

Lucky bastards.

 

[Orangeslice13]

yes, I can say that I believe the data supports getting the vaccine and I think it’s a good idea and still believe and say that it’s none of the government’s business what each of us decide to do. It’s also consistent that you can read the same data and believe that you think it’s a bad idea and you should not take it.

There’s no need to label everyone who disagrees with you as a “nut”

@SpaceCoastVol
Read that about 10 times.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

@SpaceCoastVol
Read that about 10 times.

And I can read that same data and believe it is not a good idea to get 'vaccinated'.

So here we are.

Wanna grab a beer?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

yes, I can say that I believe the data supports getting the vaccine and I think it’s a good idea and still believe and say that it’s none of the government’s business what each of us decide to do. It’s also consistent that you can read the same data and believe that you think it’s a bad idea and you should not take it.

There’s no need to label everyone who disagrees with you as a “nut”

I think this is a true statement if you are only concerned with hospitalizations and deaths.

But at the same time, no one can show me any data with regards to long term sides effects because it doesn't exist.

I think reasonable people should be able to say that both statements above can be true at the exact same time.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I agree.

I paraphrased that for everyone.

 

[evillawyer]

Suck it up, buttercup