Vaccine or not?

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BowlBrother85 said:
Please provide a link concerning the case of even one person, who has been conclusively proven to have died from complications stemming from a COVID vaccine.

Which seems more likely to happen?

(A) Dying from COVID vaccines which over 200 million Americans have already fully received, with no apparent complications (at least not as of yet).

OR

(B) Dying from COVID itself, as an otherwise healthy, but unvaccinated 46 year old woman just did.
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There’s been plenty of cases; they’re instantly dismissed by the same health officials shouting at us to all get vaccinated. You think 4, sub-30 year old soccer players all dying within a week of cardiac issues, not long after receiving their booster, is just coincidental or tough luck? The same people ruling any death while positive with Covid as a Covid death are the ones telling us nothing to see here it wasn’t the vaccine that killed a world class athlete with no prior heart issues.
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
There’s been plenty of cases; they’re instantly dismissed by the same health officials shouting at us to all get vaccinated. You think 4, sub-30 year old soccer players all dying within a week of cardiac issues, not long after receiving their booster, is just coincidental or tough luck? The same people ruling any death while positive with Covid as a Covid death are the ones telling us nothing to see here it wasn’t the vaccine that killed a world class athlete with no prior heart issues.
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I provided him a handful of cases. He immediately moved the goalposts and said something about there's probably not more then 100 cases or something to that extent. Anybody that denies the fact that there are people dying from the vaccines and vaccine Injuries are real need to get their head out of the sand. Phyzer has paid billions in fines over the past 20 years for negligent practices. They are still the same company and at the end of the day Big Pharma is all about that dollar.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
I don’t believe for a second that you’re a Republican and you most certainly aren’t a conservative. This is the same type of elitist garbage EL posts.
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whats so great about republicans? Also, just ignore the dude. He gets a lot of vitriol and it's really not productive. People cant help being shills for billionares when they don't even know it
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Interestingly, neither I, my son, nor most of my friends and patients that have had CV19 ran fever when we had it. But I keep hearing "I'm just glad I got the vaccine or it would have been so much worse" by vaccinated people with fever.
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Do with it what you will but my son, my wife, and I all had Alpha (I guess that’s what the original is called now) and we all did run a fever for about 48 hours. Mine was 103-103.5 without Tylenol or ibuprofen and about 101.5 with it. After that it was just head pressure that quickly moved to the chest and was gone. Week and a half total. No vaccine then and not one now.
 
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apevol said:
whats so great about republicans? Also, just ignore the dude. He gets a lot of vitriol and it's really not productive. People cant help being shills for billionares when they don't even know it
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Nothing. He claims to be one though. Mad brings that vitriol on himself with the posts and I don’t often respond to him but every now and then I will.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I provided him a handful of cases. He immediately moved the goalposts and said something about there's probably not more then 100 cases or something to that extent. Anybody that denies the fact that there are people dying from the vaccines and vaccine Injuries are real need to get their head out of the sand. Phyzer has paid billions in fines over the past 20 years for negligent practices. They are still the same company and at the end of the day Big Pharma is all about that dollar.
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It only took approximately half that number to kill the 1976 vaccine program for swine flu.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
I don’t believe for a second that you’re a Republican and you most certainly aren’t a conservative. This is the same type of elitist garbage EL posts.
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Besides the pandemic, tell me one issue I have debated that aligns with them? You obviously have never seen my takes on other issues including Israel.
 
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mad4vols said:
Besides the pandemic, tell me one issue I have debated that aligns with them? You obviously have never seen my takes on other issues including Israel.
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I forget what it was but there was something you posted the other day about Trump that surprised me. You just don’t come across like one though.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
I forget what it was but there was something you posted the other day about Trump that surprised me. You just don’t come across like one though.
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If you are talking about that meme I posted, I screwed up thinking it was about Rogan, I can see why you would think it after that.

Here was my response afterwards.
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WOW...

Top Lawyer Arguing Against Biden Vax Mandates Before SCOTUS Has COVID Despite Being Boosted | ZeroHedge

This ought to strengthen his case.

On Friday, Ohio solicitor general Ben Flowers was forced to participate in arguments before the Supreme Court remotely after he tested positive for COVID despite having been boosted, making him the latest in a long, long line of public servants who have contracted the "breakthrough" infections. He tested positive when he took a required test before oral arguments on Friday.
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Now, Flowers has inadvertently demonstrated that not only is COVID not a threat for most workers, but that getting the vaccine doesn't mean any individuals workers are immune. In fact, as Alex Berenson has pointed out, there's data to suggest that vaccinated individuals may face more severe reactions to omicron.
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VolStrom said:
It looks like the virus outsmarted the vaccine. The vaccine is of no help against the Omicron variant apparently.
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Neither is natural immunity. However the Omni variant seems to provide immunity verses the more serious variants.
We’re on the verge of endemic.
 
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