Vanderbilt is just a bad match up for us

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Unimane said:
First of all, read the first post again, guys before saying this was the only reason I stated (hint: it's the part that says "no reason to get piss pounded").

Secondly, yes, they are a bad match-up and any team getting that physical with us will give us trouble based on the reasons I stated before. Every team is not the same, nor is every match-up. Kentucky is a different style team and the game will be played differently. Whether or not that translate well for us remains to be seen, but it did when we played very talented Memphis teams under Calipari.

So, yes, my argument does hold validity, especially since I didn't say it was the end all, be all of winning or losing. Of course, in the anti-Pearlistas and reactionaries agenda, anything short of saying we suck, our coaches suck, we have no gameplan, the most undisciplined players and a disgrace to basketball is "making excuses".

Sorry, that's just dumb fan talk, reacting to the most recent game and applying it to the larger arc of the season. For me, tonight was a poor effort against a team we don't match up well against, but that we are still 18-5 and in good position for the post season. Yes, we have our deficiencies, but so does everyone else.
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No one is saying that the season is over. They are just pointing out how stupid your argument is that Vandy is more physical than UK. If you honestly think that, then you ought to start watching another sport.
 
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I asked two questions. Who is physical for Vandy? What was our gameplan tonight?

That's hardly reactionary. Devolving to your woe is me, people are supposed to love our coach mode wasn't an answer.
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Sudeepvol said:
Really? Did you expect a Pearl to defeat Billy's championship teams 75% of the team?
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So you are not surprised that he beats BD. You are just surprised that he was able to beat those championship teams?

I would agree with that. But that kind of defeats the point of your post.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I asked two questions. Who is physical for Vandy? What was our gameplan tonight?

That's hardly reactionary. Devolving to your woe is me, people are supposed to love our coach mode wasn't an answer.
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Who said everyone should kiss Pearl's butt? I didn't.

Everyone was physical for Vandy tonight. Their frontline, back court were all aggressive and tough. It clearly rattled the guys and failed to establish our gameplan effectively (Which, to me, Pearl wanted them to penetrate and feed Chism from the wing more often. Obviously, Pearl's expressions told me they weren't following the gameplan very well).
 
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Unimane said:
Sorry, that's just dumb fan talk, reacting to the most recent game and applying it to the larger arc of the season. For me, tonight was a poor effort against a team we don't match up well against, but that we are still 18-5 and in good position for the post season. Yes, we have our deficiencies, but so does everyone else.
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Oh come on. This team has had the same flaws for years. Weak point guard play. Soft inside presence (Chism is better now, but he still goes soft at times). Over-reliance on the weak three-pointer in the half-court offense (and, since Lofton and J. Smith left, nobody who can reliably hit them). General cluelessness against a zone. Inconsistent effort in half-court defense. What we had tonight was a game in which every one of those consistent, year-in year-out flaws was glaringly exposed, not simply a bad matchup. Calling it a "bad matchup" and saying "burn the tape and move on" is just throwing wallpaper up over a hole in the side of the house.
 
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UTLCA said:
What a cop out thread.
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Thanks for the brilliant addition to the argument.

By the way, I'm watching Kentucky now and they are definitely not as physical as Vandy. However, they are very quick and long, plus Cousins is a hoss in the low post. I think they can be beaten if Chism can give Cousins trouble and Kentucky doesn't shoot well from the perimeter. The Cats are the most talented team we will face, but they have a tendency to let most teams hang around.
 
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Unimane said:
Thanks for the brilliant addition to the argument.

By the way, I'm watching Kentucky now and they are definitely not as physical as Vandy. However, they are very quick and long, plus Cousins is a hoss in the low post. I think they can be beaten if Chism can give Cousins trouble and Kentucky doesn't shoot well from the perimeter. The Cats are the most talented team we will face, but they have a tendency to let most teams hang around.
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The posts just get dumber and dumber. Name me one player that Vandy has that is more physical than anyone UK has.
 
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LawVol13 said:
The posts just get dumber and dumber. Name me one player that Vandy has that is more physical than anyone UK has.
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Do you even watch the games or do you just think that a higher ranked team is just better at everything? Turn to ESPNU and tell me that is a physical Kentucky team. They are, though, exceptionally athletic and long around the basket, making low post offense very difficult.

Just because you are saying I have a dumb post doesn't make it right. Actually provide an argument, for once.
 
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Unimane said:
Do you even watch the games or do you just think that a higher ranked team is just better at everything? Turn to ESPNU and tell me that is a physical Kentucky team. They are, though, exceptionally athletic and long around the basket, making low post offense very difficult.

Just because you are saying I have a dumb post doesn't make it right. Actually provide an argument, for once.
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Again, name one Vandy player that is more physical than anyone UK has. Nice job avoiding that in the quoted piece of garbage.
 
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Maybe the Vols can get Cousins and Walls in early foul trouble. Only equalizer I can see that gives them a chance against Kentucky.
 
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Unimane said:
Do you even watch the games or do you just think that a higher ranked team is just better at everything? Turn to ESPNU and tell me that is a physical Kentucky team. They are, though, exceptionally athletic and long around the basket, making low post offense very difficult.

Just because you are saying I have a dumb post doesn't make it right. Actually provide an argument, for once.
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But it is right. You are out of your damn mind if you think Vanderbilt is more physical than Kentucky. Just because YOU say Vandy is more physical doesn't make it so. That could be the single dumbest thing I have ever read of yours, and that is why you are on the ignore list as if now. Have a nice day.
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LawVol13 said:
Again, name one Vandy player that is more physical than anyone UK has. Nice job avoiding that in the quoted piece of garbage.
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Likewise at avoiding my points, but anyway.

But, if you insist, Beal, Tinsley and Taylor play more physical at the 1, 2 and 3 than anything Kentucky has. The frontlines are closer, but Vanderbilt still plays more physical. Read that again, the part about playing more physical. John Wall may be a great specimen, but he isn't playing physical. Kentucky is simply softer defensively and makes up for it with great quickness, positioning, etc. Vanderbilt just roughs us up and doesn't have the athleticism and talent of Kentucky.

It isn't that hard to understand.
 
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orangetanker11 said:
But it is right. You are out of your damn mind if you think Vanderbilt is more physical than Kentucky. Just because YOU say Vandy is more physical doesn't make it so. That could be the single dumbest thing I have ever read of yours, and that is why you are on the ignore list as if now. Have a nice day.
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Oh, please no!! Not the ignore list!!


What will I ever do without your acknowledgement?
 
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Unimane said:
Likewise at avoiding my points, but anyway.

But, if you insist, Beal, Tinsley and Taylor play more physical at the 1, 2 and 3 than anything Kentucky has. The frontlines are closer, but Vanderbilt still plays more physical. Read that again, the part about playing more physical. John Wall may be a great specimen, but he isn't playing physical. Kentucky is simply softer defensively and makes up for it with great quickness, positioning, etc. Vanderbilt just roughs us up and doesn't have the athleticism and talent of Kentucky.

It isn't that hard to understand.
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Beal is no more physical than Bledsoe. Tinsley isn't as physical as any of UK's wings. Taylor is about even with Liggins. And UK is vastly, vastly more physical inside. Maybe you missed the game where these two teams played, and UK manhandled them.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Beal is no more physical than Bledsoe. Tinsley isn't as physical as any of UK's wings. Taylor is about even with Liggins. And UK is vastly, vastly more physical inside. Maybe you missed the game where these two teams played, and UK manhandled them.
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I watched it and Kentucky did not manhandle them, they ran them out of the gym.
 
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LawVol13 said:
You really are clueless. Wonder why everyone that has commented on this subject disagrees with your position?
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Ah, yes, solid argument. The two or three people arguing with me don't agree, so you must be right.

Fine, just wait and see how Kentucky plays us Saturday.
 
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Unimane said:
Ah, yes, solid argument. The two or three people arguing with me don't agree, so you must be right.

Fine, just wait and see how Kentucky plays us Saturday.
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Look up one post and you'll see my argument. And you'll see how stupid you're argument is.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Look up one post and you'll see my argument. And you'll see how stupid you're argument is.
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Which one post? What are you trying to say? Oh, if only I were as smart as you!!

Anyway, at some point, this has to come to a head, the "you're stupid" , "no you're stupid" back and forth has run its course.

Regardless, I still don't see what's so difficult to understand about one team being more physical than another, even though the other team is better. UNLV in the early 90's had the best defensive team I ever saw and they weren't that physical, either.
 
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