video: Team 118 workouts in full stride

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I like that everyone is wearing the same thing, the facilities in action and of course I just love the ORANGE!
 
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There were a lot of factors. Dooley actually helped resolve some of them or else they were resolved while he was at UT- facilities and off the field problems are two pretty easy examples.

The net of Dooley's recruiting was not great but was better than the product of Fulmer's last 2-3 recruiting efforts to include his contribution to the 2009 disaster.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Dooley was able to recruit some pieces here and there but overall, top to bottom, his recruiting classes were sorely lacking and he depended way too much on "diamonds in the rough," especially on the defensive side of the ball. He failed to recruit one single impact player on the defensive line or in the secondary. He also failed to recruit a dominant running back in the 3 years he was coach. It also remains to be seen if he recruited a quality QB while he was here.
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Dooley's best recruits were receivers. Makes sense, since he played that position at UVA, coached that position at LSU, the Dolphins, and his curent gig in Dallas. That's the one area where it appears he truly recognized talent and properly evaluated it.

I beleive his "diamonds in the rough," as you accurately phrased it, were a by-product of his time at La. Tech. In that conference, you can take overlooked players (1, 2 and low 3-star guys) and get some mileage out of them. Of course, if he treated other HS coaches the way he treated Tennessee HS coaches, it's a wonder any of them ever gave him the time of day.
 
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Don't forget under CDD players were allowed to "check off" S&C instead of actually doing it as a team, pushing each other (per Juwan James).

S&C is nice on paper but it is much more effective when it is actually done!
 
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SpiritOfNeyland said:
News flash brainiac: we haven't done **** since Fulmer was booted. You would think even with the ability to see how terrible we've done since Fulmer has been gone that you'd have the common sense to take your idiotic opinions that got us into this mess into hiding.
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No need to stomp Boca Vol, man. Like any of us, he's calling it as he sees it. Frankly, much of what he says is correct. I myself think Fulmer just got fat and lazy after his NC and that was the start of the long hard fall.
 
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SpiritOfNeyland said:
News flash brainiac: we haven't done **** since Fulmer was booted. You would think even with the ability to see how terrible we've done since Fulmer has been gone that you'd have the common sense to take your idiotic opinions that got us into this mess into hiding.
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You mad bro? All Boca was saying is that the problems started in the last years of Fulmer and went downhill from there. We have been trying to recruit EVERY position which tells me there in lies the problem. Dools after the departure of ole Kiff got this ball realling rolling downhill and had way too much momentum to turn around in 1 year. We are on our way back!
 
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HollowaytoSeivers said:
Dooley's best recruits were receivers. Makes sense, since he played that position at UVA, coached that position at LSU, the Dolphins, and his curent gig in Dallas. That's the one area where it appears he truly recognized talent and properly evaluated it.

I beleive his "diamonds in the rough," as you accurately phrased it, were a by-product of his time at La. Tech. In that conference, you can take overlooked players (1, 2 and low 3-star guys) and get some mileage out of them. Of course, if he treated other HS coaches the way he treated Tennessee HS coaches, it's a wonder any of them ever gave him the time of day.
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Ha! following that kind of logic sunsuri would be a great LB coach even though he is horrible as DC.

Never mind...
 
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I think Butch has got a good attitude change going on with this team. I can't wait to see how it carries on the field. GO VOLS
 
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Dave Lawson is a good man, and a good coach. I love that everything we do is fast. I cannot wait to see what this program is going to look like in 1-3 years.
 
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We're past CDD now, why give a **** about him? This is about Team #118 and the road they and we will go on to next season. There are tons of questions about next year, but I think we might have something next season that will be worth messing the servers up on VN. I want this place to shut down for the right reasons.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
That was just one player man. Recruiting is the issue if he did a good job recruiting we wouldn't have to recruiting over every position on the team. We wouldn't have had walk-ons in the two deep. Dooley was a horrible coach and marginal recruiter.
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Didn't dooley have like close to a 20 players less than the allowed 85 when he started?? And a scholly penalty?? R people really just totally incapable of understanding the difficulty of that time compared to CBJs first yr?? Horrible coach huh?? Well CBJ didn't really do better than him in his first year and last year's D was almost as bad as the year before soooooo CBJ a horrible coach too bud?? Oh wait he's 4-way shared conference championships so he gets it. Smh.

I frankly can care less about a bunch of whiny butthurt HS coaches that didn't have the talent but wanted a guy with bigger fish to fry to call them back.

Man CBJ lucked out by being able to show off that finalized workout room instead of just having to show a video of what it's going to look like.
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Dooley wrote too many right angles in the blueprints...gonna cost us :no:...and the virgin sacrifice chamber had to be converted into the free weights :haha_oh:...and WHAT are we going to do with all that bamboo in the Barbara Dooley Memorial underground greenhouse? :w00t:
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Don't forget under CDD players were allowed to "check off" S&C instead of actually doing it as a team, pushing each other (per Juwan James).

S&C is nice on paper but it is much more effective when it is actually done!
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I may be wrong but wasnt this this mainly a chuck smith issue that end up getting him fired?? Also isn't there a period during the year that the HC can not have contact with players and only the S&C coach can??

I love how there are so many people that seem like they have no experience in the corporate world, and act like the head guy knows what's going on all the time. Now what is done once he finds out is a different story.

It's what this country has come to after a corporation is blamed because a girl in a drive thru spills coffee on some lady.
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That's a good point Oskie!... :yu: I don't remember which one it was. :unsure:
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Oskie Volum said:
Didn't dooley have like close to a 20 players less than the allowed 85 when he started?? And a scholly penalty?? R people really just totally incapable of understanding the difficulty of that time compared to CBJs first yr?? Horrible coach huh?? Well CBJ didn't really do better than him in his first year and last year's D was almost as bad as the year before soooooo CBJ a horrible coach too bud?? Oh wait he's 4-way shared conference championships so he gets it. Smh.

I frankly can care less about a bunch of whiny butthurt HS coaches that didn't have the talent but wanted a guy with bigger fish to fry to call them back.

Man CBJ lucked out by being able to show off that finalized workout room instead of just having to show a video of what it's going to look like.
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Could someone bump the record player?
It's skipping again.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
I may be wrong but wasnt this this mainly a chuck smith issue that end up getting him fired?? Also isn't there a period during the year that the HC can not have contact with players and only the S&C coach can??

I love how there are so many people that seem like they have no experience in the corporate world, and act like the head guy knows what's going on all the time. Now what is done once he finds out is a different story.

It's what this country has come to after a corporation is blamed because a girl in a drive thru spills coffee on some lady.
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Correct on the no contact aspect and a good Strength coach is pivotal.

Not correct on Chuck, he was not S&C coach, d-line I believe and after the UNC debacle he was gone. The o-line was still just checking off lists for the the next year per some interview. We have been through so many I have lost count but I think the guy ended up at Texas which doesn't surprise me.

One final thing, I work in the corporate world in a company similar in size to UT athletic program and I am aware of how everything is running as Dooley should have been. He had more of a knack for finding a way to lose than any person I have ever seen. He was a terrible motivator and you could see that his players and his employees. Also, his communication was pathetic which ultimately leaves him disconnected and ineffective to lead.

I cannot say where we are going with Butch yet as season one looked strikingly similar to Dooley's first year with the exception of SC and Vandy games and no bowl. In meeting I like him much more and the recruiting is coming together.

Also, the UT PR machine sunshine pumpers produce these videos every year and they have no reflection on our performance. This also can be said for Inky and his comments as who wants to win has the most heart or whatever...talent first then heart or will to win. As much heart as Inky has is still can't fix his nerve damage and it virtually the same example.
 
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Vol logic said:
Correct on the no contact aspect and a good Strength coach is pivotal.

Not correct on Chuck, he was not S&C coach, d-line I believe and after the UNC debacle he was gone. The o-line was still just checking off lists for the the next year per some interview. We have been through so many I have lost count but I think the guy ended up at Texas which doesn't surprise me.

One final thing, I work in the corporate world in a company similar in size to UT athletic program and I am aware of how everything is running as Dooley should have been. He had more of a knack for finding a way to lose than any person I have ever seen. He was a terrible motivator and you could see that his players and his employees. Also, his communication was pathetic which ultimately leaves him disconnected and ineffective to lead.

I cannot say where we are going with Butch yet as season one looked strikingly similar to Dooley's first year with the exception of SC and Vandy games and no bowl. In meeting I like him much more and the recruiting is coming together.

Also, the UT PR machine sunshine pumpers produce these videos every year and they have no reflection on our performance. This also can be said for Inky and his comments as who wants to win has the most heart or whatever...talent first then heart or will to win. As much heart as Inky has is still can't fix his nerve damage and it virtually the same example.
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I actually liked the S&C guy that Dooley brought in from South Florida (forgot his name). He put a lot of emphasis on team building exercises which I liked. He was energetic and the players seemed to love him. I had actually hoped CBJ would retain him but obviously coach Jones wanted to bring in "his guy." A lot of time a S&C coach gets blamed for things he shouldn't. Usually he is following the requests from the head coach in terms of how the players train. Obviously Dooley was all about size and didn't put a lot of emphasis on speed and quickness.
 
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