Virginia Tech just got screwed

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It’s a bye week- paying attention to other games .

But wow my stomach hurt for VT fans.. what a way to “lose” and have the refs (or the ACC) literally decide the game.

Really wanted Miami to lose this one.
 
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white65 said:
Tough call, but I think it was incomplete because the player out of bounds touched it when it wasn't secured.

The replay booth probably doesn't overturn that if it benefited Miami though...
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That’s the whole thing though man.. yes- super tough call- but nothing to overturn so you have to- by rule- go with the call on the field.

You’re right- if Miami was the one on offense- play would’ve stood.. that’s not conspiracy that’s just the unfortunate reality..
 
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white65 said:
Tough call, but I think it was incomplete because the player out of bounds touched it when it wasn't secured.

The replay booth probably doesn't overturn that if it benefited Miami though...
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That’s the thing. I don’t think there was indisputable evidence that it wasn’t a catch so I think the call on the field should’ve been a TD.

Do I think he actually caught it? No. But that’s but what they ruled. Seattle/GB 2012 in the Fail Mary game with the simultaneous possession came to mind. Unreal ending. Miami got very fortunate
 
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I thought the video showed pretty clearly that the ball rolled over the Miami player when he was touching out of bounds. Since the ball never touched the ground I assume that's the call they made.
 
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It was hard to follow where the ball was, relative to where the VT receiver was near the back of the end zone .... I don't see how you could tell one way or the other. That's one that could go either way, and it's hard to say anyone was screwed. Tough call.
 
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They should call the game The Fix. The ACC overturned that call from NC. With Clemson and FL St down, Miami is the ACC’s golden goose and the top conference brass is going to protect the Canes at all cost. My wife went to Miami and is a Canes fan (so I’m kinda supposed to root for them) but I’ll still call it what it was — The Fix.

P.S. It was refreshing to see how much better of a team we are than Miami.
 
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1. I think it was a bad call.
2. I probably would have made the same call if I’m the reply official.

Tough to derail a teams playoff hopes over something controversial. When in doubt, keep the team with high hopes alive.
 
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PMC2726 said:
With Clemson and FL St down, Miami is the ACC’s golden goose and the top conference brass is going to protect the Canes at all cost.
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This right here, VT lost to the worst team in the SEC (arguably, maybe..) and Rutgers. Can't have them beating the only relevant ACC team.

Edit: On the flip side, I wouldn't worry one bit about meeting Miami in the playoffs.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
1. I think it was a bad call.
2. I probably would have made the same call if I’m the reply official.

Tough to derail a teams playoff hopes over something controversial. When in doubt, keep the team with high hopes alive.
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That shouldn't be a factor in how such a call is made, and I doubt it was.

I don't think the ball ever hit the ground. So the decision must have come down to the belief that the VT receiver and/or the Miami defender failed to fully gain control of the ball while still in bounds. It's hard to tell what actually happened though.
 
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RockiesTop22 said:
it seems like the on tv rules expert is overruled from what he tells the viewers about 60% of the time 😃
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Honestly, all broadcasts would probably be a lot better if the broadcasters weren’t spending the entire review period giving their two cents and saying to the audience what they (audience) should think the result of the reviews should be.

(I’m not saying this specifically to just tonight’s case/instance.)
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That shouldn't be a factor in how such a call is made, and I doubt it was.
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It shouldn’t. But we are all human. Maybe it wasn’t a factor. Just saying if I were the ref it’d be hard for me to give the game to VT on that call. Glad I’m not a ref!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That shouldn't be a factor in how such a call is made, and I doubt it was.

I don't think the ball ever hit the ground. So the decision must have come down to the belief that the VT receiver and/or the Miami defender failed to fully gain control of the ball while still in bounds. It's hard to tell what actually happened though.
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The Miami defender swatting the ball was out of bounds. The reciever had it when his rear hit the ground, then the out of bounds Miami player immediately started jarring at the ball breaking it loose. But is a out of bounds player allowed to jar the ball loose? GBO
 
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I couldn't see anything in real time and was surprised when the TD signal was made. During the replays, it looked to me like #9 for VT caught it in his hands and pulled it in as he went to the ground. It looked like he had possession as his butt hit the ground in-bounds. I can't say for sure that it was a TD, but I thought NO WAY was there enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field. I still think that. There's no way you can tell me that someone high up didn't influence the decision. These kinds of calls undermine the faith fans have in the integrity of the game.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
The Miami defender swatting the ball was out of bounds. The reciever had it when his rear hit the ground, then the out of bounds Miami player immediately started jarring at the ball breaking it loose. But is a out of bounds player allowed to jar the ball loose? GBO
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This. It was very clear... receiver has possession with butt on ground before the DB rips it out. They froze the shot live on first replay and then (conveniently for ACC) never showed it again. Best part was them doing the live look in at the ACC headquarters and the one guy picks up the phone. Classic
 
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It doesn't look like a TD to begin with but it doesn't look like there are enough to overturn it either. What do they say? "Two wrongs don't make a right." Shake my head.
 
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OHvol40 said:
That receiver never had clear possession of the ball, at any point.
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Agreed. But on the field they said it was called a touchdown. So the replay needed to show INDISPUTABLE evidence that he didn't catch the ball. Like you I think he didn't catch it but the video wasn't clear cut either way. It was debatable. That's why they should have said the ruling on the field stands. But as others have said the ACC command center made the call. They didn't want the only ACC team with a pulse to lose a game like that on a questionable on-field call.

If the rules were being followed they would have said the ruling on the field stands.
 
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The real issue to me is the Miami defender being out of bounds but touching the football. I'm not sure what the rules say about a defender doing that, and had they not batted at the ball, the receiver would have likely re-established the catch.

**EDIT** - Apparently that's exactly what the ACC said. Defender touched ball as receiver lost control on the ground, touching the ball made it an incomplete pass and a dead ball, end of game. Huh. Well.
 
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