Virginia Tech just got screwed

#27
#27
Agreed. But on the field they said it was called a touchdown. So the replay needed to show INDISPUTABLE evidence that he didn't catch the ball. Like you I think he didn't catch it but the video wasn't clear cut either way. It was debatable. That's why they should have said the ruling on the field stands. But as others have said the ACC command center made the call. They didn't want the only ACC team with a pulse to lose a game like that on a questionable on-field call.

If the rules were being followed they would have said the ruling on the field stands.

100% this. There was also terrible pass interference by miami on that play
 
#28
#28
I couldn't see anything in real time and was surprised when the TD signal was made. During the replays, it looked to me like #9 for VT caught it in his hands and pulled it in as he went to the ground. It looked like he had possession as his butt hit the ground in-bounds. I can't say for sure that it was a TD, but I thought NO WAY was there enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field. I still think that. There's no way you can tell me that someone high up didn't influence the decision. These kinds of calls undermine the faith fans have in the integrity of the game.

This. No way was there enough evidence to overturn the ruling of TD on the field.

Acc refs called 13 or 14 penalties on BC vs FSU last season in THE most obvious and blatant fixing of a game that I have ever seen. Most were drive killers for BC or drive extenders for FSU. It was insanely obvious that there was no way the refs were gonna let BC beat them.
 
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#29
#29
I don’t think even those who felt the ball moved would argue that there was indisputable evidence of it. That’s the standard. Absent indisputable evidence that call has to stand. If it had favored Miami, the call would have stood and I believe most of the people feel that and it is a dishonest look for the ACC.
 
#30
#30
Tough call, but I think it was incomplete because the player out of bounds touched it when it wasn't secured.

The replay booth probably doesn't overturn that if it benefited Miami though...
Wtf are you talking about?? Anybody with a brain knows that was a TD. I can’t believe how absolutely absurd ppl are.
 
#31
#31
Wtf are you talking about?? Anybody with a brain knows that was a TD. I can’t believe how absolutely absurd ppl are.
1. I think it was a bad call.
2. I probably would have made the same call if I’m the reply official.

Tough to derail a teams playoff hopes over something controversial. When in doubt, keep the team with high hopes alive.
What??? What are we talkin about? I mean come tf on! You can’t be serious? I assume you believe there’s more than 2 genders also.
 
#32
#32
Agreed. But on the field they said it was called a touchdown. So the replay needed to show INDISPUTABLE evidence that he didn't catch the ball. Like you I think he didn't catch it but the video wasn't clear cut either way. It was debatable. That's why they should have said the ruling on the field stands. But as others have said the ACC command center made the call. They didn't want the only ACC team with a pulse to lose a game like that on a questionable on-field call.

If the rules were being followed they would have said the ruling on the field stands.
Buddy, that was a CONFIRMED TD. Stop. It’s madness to even question.
 
#33
#33
The real issue to me is the Miami defender being out of bounds but touching the football. I'm not sure what the rules say about a defender doing that, and had they not batted at the ball, the receiver would have likely re-established the catch.

**EDIT** - Apparently that's exactly what the ACC said. Defender touched ball as receiver lost control on the ground, touching the ball made it an incomplete pass and a dead ball, end of game. Huh. Well.
I’m really glad I ain’t got a dog in that hunt. No rally bewbz for you!
 
#34
#34
Tough call, but I think it was incomplete because the player out of bounds touched it when it wasn't secured.

The replay booth probably doesn't overturn that if it benefited Miami though...
Exactly, it doesn't matter if it is college or pro sports, the higher profile team gets a favorable whistle.
 
#35
#35
It looked pretty obvious. The receiver never even caught the ball. The ball was loose by the time he hit the ground. Then the Miami player catches it, but was out of bounds, at incomplete pass. It should've never been ruled a TD, but it could've been a INT. Can't have simultaneous possession on a ball you never caught.
 
#36
#36
It looked pretty obvious. The receiver never even caught the ball. The ball was loose by the time he hit the ground. Then the Miami player catches it, but was out of bounds, at incomplete pass. It should've never been ruled a TD, but it could've been a INT. Can't have simultaneous possession on a ball you never caught.

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#38
#38
Really wanted Miami to lose this one.
Think this bias may have affected your perception. No biggie. I didn’t see firm control. I didn’t get a chance to see it until the game replay but my opinion had been biased by the EspnU scroll. Seems some talking heads missed an opportunity to bash another ACC front runner and were taking their pound of flesh from the review booth.
 
#39
#39


ACC refs are the crookedest in CFB. They hosed BC the worst I have ever seen in my life last season vs FSU to keep them in the playoffs...or so they thought.

The hold was past the line of scrimmage so it was 10 yards from the spot of the foul, not 10 from the line of scrimmage
 
#41
#41
It shouldn’t. But we are all human. Maybe it wasn’t a factor. Just saying if I were the ref it’d be hard for me to give the game to VT on that call. Glad I’m not a ref!
But it doesn’t take away Miami’s playoff hopes at all. They win the ACC and they’re in.
 
#42
#42
Don’t think they best Clemson in ACC championship. Not overly impressed with Canes. At least 4-5 SEC teams that would beat them: Vols, Bama, UGa, TX, and Ole Miss.
 
#43
#43
1. I think it was a bad call.
2. I probably would have made the same call if I’m the reply official.

Tough to derail a teams playoff hopes over something controversial. When in doubt, keep the team with high hopes alive.
HUH??? How about the Indisputable evidence thing?
When in doubt, keep the team with high hopes alive.
 
#44
#44
They should call the game The Fix. The ACC overturned that call from NC. With Clemson and FL St down, Miami is the ACC’s golden goose and the top conference brass is going to protect the Canes at all cost. My wife went to Miami and is a Canes fan (so I’m kinda supposed to root for them) but I’ll still call it what it was — The Fix.

P.S. It was refreshing to see how much better of a team we are than Miami.
Vols roll the canes......Once again, pretenders.
 
#45
#45
Wtf are you talking about?? Anybody with a brain knows that was a TD. I can’t believe how absolutely absurd ppl are.
Hope you ended up putting the bottle down before too much damage was done buddy. I recommend coconut water for that hangover!
 
#47
#47
It’s a bye week- paying attention to other games .

But wow my stomach hurt for VT fans.. what a way to “lose” and have the refs (or the ACC) literally decide the game.

Really wanted Miami to lose this one.
All the fault of VT's head coach. You take the points of that field goal after the interception instead of faking it. You can kick a field goal for the win as the clock winds down on the last drive.
 
#49
#49
I thought the video showed pretty clearly that the ball rolled over the Miami player when he was touching out of bounds. Since the ball never touched the ground I assume that's theplayer to VT

They should call the game The Fix. The ACC overturned that call from NC. With Clemson and FL St down, Miami is the ACC’s golden goose and the top conference brass is going to protect the Canes at all cost. My wife went to Miami and is a Canes fan (so I’m kinda supposed to root for them) but I’ll still call it what it was — The Fix.

P.S. It was refreshing to see how much better of a team we are than Miami.
Miami didn't look like top 10 team.....
 

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