Virginia Tech just got screwed

[kptvol1452]

It’s a bye week- paying attention to other games .

But wow my stomach hurt for VT fans.. what a way to “lose” and have the refs (or the ACC) literally decide the game.

Really wanted Miami to lose this one.

Tough loss.... Tenn has been on receiving end of calls that determine win or loss No

That shouldn't be a factor in how such a call is made, and I doubt it was.

I don't think the ball ever hit the ground. So the decision must have come down to the belief that the VT receiver and/or the Miami defender failed to fully gain control of the ball while still in bounds. It's hard to tell what actually happened though.

I don’t think even those who felt the ball moved would argue that there was indisputable evidence of it. That’s the standard. Absent indisputable evidence that call has to stand. If it had favored Miami, the call would have stood and I believe most of the people feel that and it is a dishonest look for the ACC.

 

[kptvol1452]

That’s the thing. I don’t think there was indisputable evidence that it wasn’t a catch so I think the call on the field should’ve been a TD.

Do I think he actually caught it? No. But that’s but what they ruled. Seattle/GB 2012 in the Fail Mary game with the simultaneous possession came to mind. Unreal ending. Miami got very fortunate

If Jauan Jennings had been in the game there would have been no doubt he caught it.... Dobbnail boot GO VOLS......

 

[Hacksaw]

Just saying if I were the ref it’d be hard for me to give the game to VT on that call. Glad I’m not a ref!

The refs weren't deciding whether or not to "give" the W to VT. They had already tallied the game-winning TD on the scoreboard. All they could do was take that victory away and hand it to Miami, which would have been fine if the replay had been indisputable. Anyone who says there was clear evidence either way is kidding themselves. So, the call on the field should have stood.

VT dominated Miami throughout most of the game and would have been deserving victors. Instead, their win is reversed by a questionable decision. And it seems like some posters here agree with the idea that preferential treatment should be shown to certain teams. That's crazy to me. The officiating should be based on what happens on the field. Period.

 

[Hacksaw]

If Jauan Jennings had been in the game there would have been no doubt he caught it.... Dobbnail boot GO VOLS......

It was actually a very similar catch. The difference is that Jauan didn't allow the DBs to strip the ball out of his hands after he was down.

 

[adam.vol]

Tough call, but I think it was incomplete because the player out of bounds touched it when it wasn't secured.

The replay booth probably doesn't overturn that if it benefited Miami though...

What drives me insane is that after watching 4 hours of tv ads, the consumer deserves a real, understandable explanation. If a player from out of bounds killed the play and the rule clearly states that is the correct call, the very least they could do is prove that to the viewers.

How long did we have to wait for that ruling? I saw responses on VN from 10 minutes prior to the ruling about the play. They could put together a decent explanation in that time and not after the fact, when Twitter forces them to cover their asses.

 

[loosecannon]

I root for VT in the side, but the field goal they opted to fake killed them. That decision totally changed the game

 

[GoVols1961]

After watching 100 times in slow motion, I still can't say indisputably it was a touch down or it was incomplete. Imagine if you had to make the call with one view, in real time. I'm going to cut the officials some slack. If they had ruled incomplete initially, it would have stood. So Virginia Tech loses either way.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

It was hard to follow where the ball was, relative to where the VT receiver was near the back of the end zone .... I don't see how you could tell one way or the other. That's one that could go either way, and it's hard to say anyone was screwed. Tough call.

They just need to SHOW “ the”indisputable video evidence the rule requires to overturn a call on the field. Only thing that will remove integrity challenges. Pretty simple really. Pic or clip.

 

[KoachKrab127]

After watching 100 times in slow motion, I still can't say indisputably it was a touch down or it was incomplete. Imagine if you had to make the call with one view, in real time. I'm going to cut the officials some slack. If they had ruled incomplete initially, it would have stood. So Virginia Tech loses either way.

I don’t mind cutting them some slack for not making the correct call in real time. I get upset at the refs for not making the correct call after review. If it is inconclusive during a slow motion replay, you have to go with the call on the field. That is the rule. The call on the field was a TD. But the refs chose to reverse the call even though they did not have conclusive evidence. How can you be okay with that?

 

[207 others]

To hell with Tech!

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

CBP does not impress as a coach....

He did fine. Had one bad decision. He exposed Miami last night.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Agreed. But on the field they said it was called a touchdown. So the replay needed to show INDISPUTABLE evidence that he didn't catch the ball. Like you I think he didn't catch it but the video wasn't clear cut either way. It was debatable. That's why they should have said the ruling on the field stands. But as others have said the ACC command center made the call. They didn't want the only ACC team with a pulse to lose a game like that on a questionable on-field call.

If the rules were being followed they would have said the ruling on the field stands.

Clemson will beat Miami

 

[OHvol40]

It wasn't clear either way. That's why the call on the field should have prevailed.

It was clear to me that at no point could anyone claim they clearly possessed that football until the player out of bounds possessed it.

 

[OHvol40]

Agreed. But on the field they said it was called a touchdown. So the replay needed to show INDISPUTABLE evidence that he didn't catch the ball. Like you I think he didn't catch it but the video wasn't clear cut either way. It was debatable. That's why they should have said the ruling on the field stands. But as others have said the ACC command center made the call. They didn't want the only ACC team with a pulse to lose a game like that on a questionable on-field call.

If the rules were being followed they would have said the ruling on the field stands.

This call is subjective, but my initial reaction was that nobody had that ball, and the angle from behind the goalpost confirmed that the ball was moving the entire time without clear possession. Apparently the officials agreed.