Virginia Tech victims families get 11 million.

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overseasorange2

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This is ridiculous! Why does the university get penalized for some nut gunning down students? Ultimately, the surviving students will pay for this with increases in tuition. We are a sue happy society....:crazy:
 
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because VA tech was afraid of what it may look like if they fought the suit. Tacky in my opinion to sue or ask for money from an institution that was not at fault. It's a gald darn college. If anyone is to blame it is the persons who are responsible for thinking that everyone deserves to go to college. Everyone does not deserve to go to college IMO.
 
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I could think of plenty of ways to ease the pain with $11,000,000...anyone seen Elliot Spitzer's Rolodex laying around?
 
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As tragic as it was, we always think somebody has to pay...even if it is the innocent. And your right, it will not bring anybody back.
 
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I just don't see how 11mill. is going to take away the pain. Even if it was 111 Mill. I just can't put a pricetag on someones life, idunno...
 
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Wait, but I thought they knew someone was on campus and didn't delay school or inform students or lock down until after the shootings. Am I confusing this with another incident?
 
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Volnissniss said:
Wait, but I thought they knew someone was on campus and didn't delay school or inform students or lock down until after the shootings. Am I confusing this with another incident?
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even so. we are talking a bout thousands of students and a faculty that is Probably less prepared than most boy scouts. And why should they have been prepared for a rogue idiot with a gun? Hell on 9-11 the Pentagon was hit. Don't ya think they would have been atleast a little prepared? So 11 million for what? I would rather see the 11 million go towards the campus police at the universities across Va.
 
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tim said:
even so. we are talking a bout thousands of students and a faculty that is Probably less prepared than most boy scouts. And why should they have been prepared for a rogue idiot with a gun? Hell on 9-11 the Pentagon was hit. Don't ya think they would have been atleast a little prepared? So 11 million for what? I would rather see the 11 million go towards the campus police at the universities across Va.
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overseasorange2 said:
This is ridiculous! Why does the university get penalized for some nut gunning down students? Ultimately, the surviving students will pay for this with increases in tuition. We are a sue happy society....:crazy:
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VA taxpayers will pay it

tim said:
I would rather see the 11 million go towards the campus police at the universities across Va.
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I take it you don't really understand how VA is managing their tax dollars.
 
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Sorry I was just confused. When you send your 17 or 18 yr old (or 19 or20 or21, etc) to college you kind of have to trust the institution to protect your kid. Who's to say what would have happened had they locked down the dorms or the classrooms or the buildings. I dare say that guy would have met with a security person, been zapped or beat or shot to the ground trying to get in.

I see total and complete justification of the 11 mil. It would never ever replace or take care of the hurt, however, there is not a price too high for the life of your child. God forbid anyone ever have to go through something as horrible as that ever again.
 
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And sure, let's get the freakin govt to give the universities more money to fun more security. Why cut into the families of students that died at that institute? It's a seperate issue. The funds are there, it's a fine school. It is what it is.
 
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Volnissniss said:
I see total and complete justification of the 11 mil. It would never ever replace or take care of the hurt, however, there is not a price too high for the life of your child.
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so let's just make it $11 billion. I mean, where does it stop? The thinking that every loss of life requires monetary compensation is getting ridiculous.
 
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Volnissniss said:
Sorry I was just confused. When you send your 17 or 18 yr old (or 19 or20 or21, etc) to college you kind of have to trust the institution to protect your kid. Who's to say what would have happened had they locked down the dorms or the classrooms or the buildings. I dare say that guy would have met with a security person, been zapped or beat or shot to the ground trying to get in.

I see total and complete justification of the 11 mil. It would never ever replace or take care of the hurt, however, there is not a price too high for the life of your child. God forbid anyone ever have to go through something as horrible as that ever again.
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Spoken like a true sue happy lawyer..problem is he could have came back later if they would have went on a lockdown and done it at another time..you just dont know..it could happen at anytime..anywhere.
 
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utvolpj said:
so let's just make it $11 billion. I mean, where does it stop? The thinking that every loss of life requires monetary compensation is getting ridiculous.
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I agree. I think all the families should receive something. But what was this family inparticular saying? Clearly all families didn't sue so there must of been a reason for this family. Did it say?

I have no idea where it stops, I agree with you. I just can't imagine what those families are going through. And if even one of those students could have been spared by letting the campus know, or cancelling school that day, etc, then there should be multiple law suits. I just hate it when young people die, it's so unfair. I mean, they were trying to be productive adults in society, contribute and be well, get married, have families and they chose the wrong school and it's all over b/c some idiot penetrated the grounds?
 
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Volnissniss said:
I agree. I think all the families should receive something. But what was this family inparticular saying? Clearly all families didn't sue so there must of been a reason for this family. Did it say?
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State, Virginia Tech families settle for $11 million -- dailypress.com

They would not discuss terms until final settlement papers are drawn up. But an early copy of the agreement obtained by The Associated Press called for representatives of each of the 32 people killed by a student gunman last April 16 to receive $100,000.
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It's not just a single family receiving money.
 
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Unless negligence is shown or admitted I don't think the families are entitled to money from the university/tax payers.

Bad stuff happens. Va. Tech is equivalent to a small town (about 30-40K people spread out over several square miles). I just don't see how the university was negligent in this case.
 
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Volnissniss said:
Sorry I was just confused. When you send your 17 or 18 yr old (or 19 or20 or21, etc) to college you kind of have to trust the institution to protect your kid. Who's to say what would have happened had they locked down the dorms or the classrooms or the buildings. I dare say that guy would have met with a security person, been zapped or beat or shot to the ground trying to get in.

I see total and complete justification of the 11 mil. It would never ever replace or take care of the hurt, however, there is not a price too high for the life of your child. God forbid anyone ever have to go through something as horrible as that ever again.
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So, if I come to Knoxville to visit my family, and I get shot. Can I sue the city of Knoxville? How about the state of TN? Oh what the heck, how about suing the U.S. government? :blink::blink::blink:
 
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NCGatorBait said:
Spoken like a true sue happy lawyer..problem is he could have came back later if they would have went on a lockdown and done it at another time..you just dont know..it could happen at anytime..anywhere.
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it did where i go to school at NIU. sadly this crap happens almost daily. when i was younger i thought school was one of the safest places to be and now you can be killed for getting an education.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
So, if I come to Knoxville to visit my family, and I get shot. Can I sue the city of Knoxville? How about the state of TN? Oh what the heck, how about suing the U.S. government? :blink::blink::blink:
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No, I was just saying WHAT IF the campus put everyone on lock down or announced that classes were cancelled b/c there was a suspicious looking guy or something. I'm asking if they had a heads up b/c I thought in this case in particular they did receive a few tips or complaints from students about a guy with a gun or a guy that was acting all weird. My opinion is if the university was aware of it then they had the duty to protect it's students. So IF they knew and they had indeed put everyone in lock down then maybe those kids wouldn't have died that day. Or a lot fewer.

When I was in college there was this guy that kept looking in classroom windows and they immediately locked us down and wouldn't let us leave. He was just a mid age guy going around with his hands in his pockets doing .... anyway, he was lead away from campus and we were allowed to leave. Had they not locked us down that guy could have raped one of us or anything.
 
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volinbham said:
Unless negligence is shown or admitted I don't think the families are entitled to money from the university/tax payers.

Bad stuff happens. Va. Tech is equivalent to a small town (about 30-40K people spread out over several square miles). I just don't see how the university was negligent in this case.
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