Vitale: Early preseason top 40

#152
#152
BigOrangePassion1 said:
If Bob Cousy came up today with the skills he had back when he played. You would have never heard of him.
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good grief. The guy was the best of his era. Assuming that he couldn't have adapted to today's game or developed the lack of skill on display today is silly. Athletically, he might not have found a way to get to the hole, but Nash figures it out and he is no better handle relative to his peers than Cousy was then.
 
#154
#154
BigPapaVol said:
good grief. The guy was the best of his era. Assuming that he couldn't have adapted to today's game or developed the lack of skill on display today is silly. Athletically, he might not have found a way to get to the hole, but Nash figures it out and he is no better handle relative to his peers than Cousy was then.
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No it isn't. The game is completely different.
 
#156
#156
BigPapaVol said:
good grief. The guy was the best of his era. Assuming that he couldn't have adapted to today's game or developed the lack of skill on display today is silly. Athletically, he might not have found a way to get to the hole, but Nash figures it out and he is no better handle relative to his peers than Cousy was then.
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
No it isn't. The game is completely different.
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100% truth followed by 100% crap.
 
#157
#157
MikeHamiltonFan said:
BPV,

Do you really not see why you coming from a place where you can get in trouble if you do not cut the dessert correctly gives you a different view on hazing than knowing TN basketball players who play under Bruce Pearl?

I do not know why you keep bringing up the SAT in other threads and the LSAT in this one. Perhaps you struggled with standardized tests which has created an obsession, or perhaps you did very well with them and you are waiting for the opportunity to compete in that arena on a message board. Either way, it is sad.

I have tremendous respect for West Point as an institution, and I have not disparaged it except inasmuch as the quality of basketball play is low. I did not want a Congressional recommendation (which we did talk about at my Eagle Scout ceremony) because the military did not seem like the path for me. I also did not take enough math to get into West Point.

I respect tremendously your service. I think your insinuation that unless you played college basketball you do not know as much about it as someone who did is completely idiotic. I also know that you are wrong about the upcoming hazing of Tobias Harris and although you implied rather than directly stating it, I believe Tobias will be one of our top options at the end of the game despite his freshman status.
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The point is he knows a hell of a lot more about college basketball than you. You have no idea I'd Harris is getting hazed, so just shut up about it.
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#160
#160
BigOrangePassion1 said:
No it isn't. The game is completely different.
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Ball's still round and goal is 10 feet.

He could have adapted to the different styles of today because he was the best of the best in his era.

You're even more ignorant than I first thought. And I thought you were "coloring books for Christmas" ignorant at first glance.
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#162
#162
Lofton4Three said:
Ball's still round and goal is 10 feet.

He could have adapted to the different styles of today because he was the best of the best in his era.

You're even more ignorant than I first thought. And I thought you were "coloring books for Christmas" ignorant at first glance.
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Yea, you were being a little too generous. When somebody is defending mhf on here, they are about one step up from down syndrome.
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#163
#163
MikeHamiltonFan said:
Is West Point harder to get into than Harvard or MIT? hahahahaha
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It may not be, I'm not sure. It would depend on the applicant. West Point wants leaders, while the Ivy will take some pure Geeks.

But there's not as significant of a difference in selectivity as your posts suggests.

America's Best College - Forbes.com

Whatever soldiers you might have commanded should feel lucky your admissions application was denied.

Moreover, you're way too selfish to subordinate your interests to the call to duty that US soldiers serve.
 
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#167
#167
JZVOL said:
Honestly (this is not sarcastic) there is so much wrong with what you said it's close to impossible to correct.
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It is not surprising...you cannot restate the point you claim I missed because my refutation of your point which was that uk freshmen failed because as freshmen they were not clutch was complete.

There is not much debate on this poor board. There is a lot of posturing and immature ad hominem. It is despite all of that, a more fun place to discuss vol basketball than almost anywhere I know.

I did not apply to west point, and I guess you could call it selfishness or immaturity if you like. I was unwilling to say that I would accept orders that may or may not be coming from an individual whose intellect I respected. I am not talking about not wanting to do pushups, I mean that when I read blackhawk down and think about a prescient leader knowing his men may lose their lives because of the incompetence of his superior I would not be able to handle that situation with the obedience that is necessary.

Cool article in fortune recently about west point grads doing great as business leaders.

I had friends play sports at air force academy and the citadel bpv and they said they did not have it as rough as the other guys. Would you agree? My friend from the citadel is a brilliant leader who is a credit to his school while my friend who played football for afa is slightly smarter than travis henry.
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#168
#168
MikeHamiltonFan said:
It is not surprising...you cannot restate the point you claim I missed because my refutation of your point which was that uk freshmen failed because as freshmen they were not clutch was complete.

There is not much debate on this poor board. There is a lot of posturing and immature ad hominem. It is despite all of that, a more fun place to discuss vol basketball than almost anywhere I know.

I did not apply to west point, and I guess you could call it selfishness or immaturity if you like. I was unwilling to say that I would accept orders that may or may not be coming from an individual whose intellect I respected. I am not talking about not wanting to do pushups, I mean that when I read blackhawk down and think about a prescient leader knowing his men may lose their lives because of the incompetence of his superior I would not be able to handle that situation with the obedience that is necessary.

Cool article in fortune recently about west point grads doing great as business leaders.

I had friends play sports at air force academy and the citadel bpv and they said they did not have it as rough as the other guys. Would you agree? My friend from the citadel is a brilliant leader who is a credit to his school while my friend who played football for afa is slightly smarter than travis henry.
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Of course you are correct. Without superior intellect, you, of all people, could have no respect for anyone. Those of inferior intellect are basically useless and should not be respected or accepted by anyone.
 
#169
#169
As a basketball debate, I think bob cousy would have been remarkable if he was around today. He would do even better if brought to today as a 26 year old in a time machine to an nba that followed the stated rules. He would be one of the only players not carrying or traveling almost everytime they touch the ball.
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#170
#170
Yea, with his superior intellect and great athletic ability, no one could touch him today. All the old players are obviously much better than today's players---so much more athletic, more speed, and greater jumping ability.
 
#171
#171
MikeHamiltonFan said:
It is not surprising...you cannot restate the point you claim I missed because my refutation of your point which was that uk freshmen failed because as freshmen they were not clutch was complete.

There is not much debate on this poor board. There is a lot of posturing and immature ad hominem. It is despite all of that, a more fun place to discuss vol basketball than almost anywhere I know.

I did not apply to west point, and I guess you could call it selfishness or immaturity if you like. I was unwilling to say that I would accept orders that may or may not be coming from an individual whose intellect I respected. I am not talking about not wanting to do pushups, I mean that when I read blackhawk down and think about a prescient leader knowing his men may lose their lives because of the incompetence of his superior I would not be able to handle that situation with the obedience that is necessary.

Cool article in fortune recently about west point grads doing great as business leaders.

I had friends play sports at air force academy and the citadel bpv and they said they did not have it as rough as the other guys. Would you agree? My friend from the citadel is a brilliant leader who is a credit to his school while my friend who played football for afa is slightly smarter than travis henry.
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No, it's because it's a waste of time.
 
#173
#173
MikeHamiltonFan said:
I also did not take enough math to get into West Point.
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
I did not apply to west point, and I guess you could call it selfishness or immaturity if you like. I was unwilling to say that I would accept orders that may or may not be coming from an individual whose intellect I respected.
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No, I wouldn't call your decision not to apply as selfish, but based on your own comments, you were self-aware. You were aware that you would not have been admitted had you applied. All else is moot.
 
#174
#174
utmba93 said:
No, I wouldn't call your decision not to apply as selfish, but based on your own comments, you were self-aware. You were aware that you would not have been admitted had you applied. All else is moot.
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Yeah it would have required taking another year of math. In hindsight, the fact that I progressed faster in every subject other than math deeply impacted my choices with regards to both college and then which type of graduate program to go into.

I want to make sure my kids take math seriously, hopefully their mom can teach them.

I liked Vitales list pretty well. Do you guys think the Lobos are set up to potentially have a great team?
 
#175
#175
I think Hopson this coming season will have the chance to take a lead in the line-up. Without Prince and Chism, Hopson will have no one of that caliber to lean on, so his skills should stand out..(should being the keyword here). To me this is a year for the Jr. to really show upper class leadership, and I think (Hope) he does so!
 
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