VNs Big Thread of Deportation

[volinbham]

Alright VN - let's talk deportation.

Should we even deport people who are here illegally? (YES)

Should we deport people who failed their asylum claim? (YES)

Should we deport someone awaiting asylum claims that has committed a felony while here? (YES)

Should we deport someone who didn't show up for their asylum evaluation? (YES)

Should we deport someone who was let it but had a violent criminal history coming in? (YES)

Should we deport someone we let in on an asylum claim that has yet to be adjudicated? (NO)

Should we deport someone that has overstayed their VISA? (YES)

What are the other categories?

 

[ButchPlz]

Alright VN - let's talk deportation.

Should we even deport people who are here illegally? (YES)

Should we deport people who failed their asylum claim? (YES)

Should we deport someone awaiting asylum claims that has committed a felony while here? (YES)

Should we deport someone who didn't show up for their asylum evaluation? (YES)

Should we deport someone who was let it but had a violent criminal history coming in? (YES)

Should we deport someone we let in on an asylum claim that has yet to be adjudicated? (NO)

Should we deport someone that has overstayed their VISA? (YES)

What are the other categories?

But if we do this who is going to pick that one dude here's blackberries?

 

[GroverCleveland]

Alright VN - let's talk deportation.

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Should we deport someone we let in on an asylum claim that has yet to be adjudicated? (NO)

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What are the other categories?

Only if they went through the proper port of entry/channels. Crossing the Rio Grande and then claiming asylum, nope. It is back across the river or into the Great White North for them.

 

[Orangeburst]

I saw a figure like 968B to deport everyone..didnt see if that was for ones in past 4 years or up to 30-40M, but calling BS on 5hat.
If they have been employeed for an x-numberof years, extend their stay,assumingno other irregularities.
Just impose massive employment fines and a substantial number probably return.

 

[utvolpj]

I think this really needs to be careful because of the 4th. Likely to be lots of overzealous mall cops wanting to do their duty just because someone dared speak Spanish in their presence. There will be enough caught by regular methods

 

[Firebirdparts]

I don't see how you can selectively enforce the law. I think that has to be one of the most evil things a government can do. I say just enforce the law and let people who want to work in agriculture do the paperwork.

 

[ButchPlz]

If we actually required and enforced e-verify using the actual freaking laws that exist, and we started busting people using fake SSNs (which is a whole issue), then we end the incentives and end the problem.

 

[Orangeburst]

An employee sponser program would be good imo,

 

[GroverCleveland]

Something I thought about this morning. If the big deportation is carried out, and I believe it should, then that should be broadcast as much and as far as possible. Why?

The Mexican cartels have made boatloads off of these people. It is not up to the US to make these people whole. Deport enough to make it risky as hell to pay a coyote to get one across the border. No use in more of our policies further enriching drug cartels. We do enough of that already.

 

[85SugarVol]

Alright VN - let's talk deportation.

Should we even deport people who are here illegally? (YES)

Should we deport people who failed their asylum claim? (YES)

Should we deport someone awaiting asylum claims that has committed a felony while here? (YES)

Should we deport someone who didn't show up for their asylum evaluation? (YES)

Should we deport someone who was let it but had a violent criminal history coming in? (YES)

Should we deport someone we let in on an asylum claim that has yet to be adjudicated? (NO)

Should we deport someone that has overstayed their VISA? (YES)

What are the other categories?

Should illegal aliens, who are the biological parents of American citizens, get an “exemption”?

 

[hndog609]

Make a big deal about getting the criminals out first. Give everybody that's willing to take the self-deportation route the chance to do so. Maybe even facilitate to some degree. (probably still be cheaper in the long run) Perhaps make those willing to do that and have shown some kind of useful willingness to integrate be on the short list to legally reenter/seek asylum.

 

[tbh]

Should illegal aliens, who are the biological parents of American citizens, get an “exemption”?

Personally, I don't believe so. If the American citizen children are grown, there are existing pathways for them to sponsor their parent(s) for legal residency.

 

[Vol423]

Should illegal aliens, who are the biological parents of American citizens, get an “exemption”?

No...absolutely not. That is rewarding criminal behavior.

 

[volinbham]

Should illegal aliens, who are the biological parents of American citizens, get an “exemption”?

good question - while I didn't include it in my original post I do think this should be in order of priority with felons/terrror watch list first. what you've described is pretty low on the priority list and probably not necessary.

 

[whodeycin85]

Something I thought about this morning. If the big deportation is carried out, and I believe it should, then that should be broadcast as much and as far as possible. Why?

The Mexican cartels have made boatloads off of these people. It is not up to the US to make these people whole. Deport enough to make it risky as hell to pay a coyote to get one across the border. No use in more of our policies further enriching drug cartels. We do enough of that already.

Like cops but for deportation l...probably be the most watch show for 5 years. Lol

 

[whodeycin85]

Nm

 

[whodeycin85]

Should illegal aliens, who are the biological parents of American citizens, get an “exemption”?

Nope

 

[utvolpj]

No...absolutely not. That is rewarding criminal behavior.

So you deport US citizens who have broken no laws?

 

[85SugarVol]

good question - while I didn't include it in my original post I do think this should be in order of priority with felons/terrror watch list first. what you've described is pretty low on the priority list and probably not necessary.

Agree that it should be way down the priority list, assuming the alien parents are lawful contributors (illegal entry notwithstanding).

But from a purely philosophical standpoint - should illegal alien parents of American citizens be exempt from action?

 

[volfanhill]

So the non adult children, who are citizens, go where exactly?

 

[Ritzwatch]

But if we do this who is going to pick that one dude here's blackberries?

For $65/gallon, I have 3 teens willing to break some child labor laws to sign up to help. He will still make $20/gallon. Win/Win.

 

[Ritzwatch]

So the non adult children, who are citizens, go where exactly?

Martha's Vineyard, of course.

 

[85SugarVol]

So you deport US citizens who have broken no laws?

That’s not the question posed. Or at least not my question.

The illegal alien parents of US Citizens - should they be deported.

You cannot deport US citizens.

 

[LouderVol]

So the non adult children, who are citizens, go where exactly?

parents are given the option. the child can go back with the parents to the parent's home country, stay with legal family, or families willing to foster, or go into the child care system. just like a child whose parent's go to jail, being separated isn't out of the play book. and not sure why we would treat them better just because their parents broke a different set of rules.

 

[hog88]

So you deport US citizens who have broken no laws?

Illegal aliens have broken the law.