Vols favored by 8.5 @ Florida

#28
#28
Surprisingly higher than I expected, thought it would be between 4.5 - 5.5.

I had to give up betting on Vol games, it made me such a terrible fan. Became super critical. Guys that I had gone to games with quit hanging out with me because of it.

GO VOLS! DRAIN THE SWAMP!
 
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#29
#29
You’re thinking about the wrong things. Transitive property never works in football. Florida is slow on defense, they have bad lines on both sides, and their qb is shaky. They have a good RB, LB core can tackle and they have some very good transfers and young guys who didn’t play at Utah. Beating them in the swamp will not be a cake walk, but we have better athletes, better depth and our defense is going to make it hard for them. We need Mays, Beasley, and our receivers to have a healthy prep week. Our DB’s need to get smarter fast, but we are definitely the better team.
If we can't throw into windows, I'm not sure any of that will matter. Florida has enough talent to force us to beat them throwing actual passes, not screens all game.
 
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I don't have the SEC+ network so I didn't get to watch the game, but I suspect the team wasn't as focused because of who they were playing. As for screen passes, Texas pretty much won their game with 'bama throwing a lot of screens. Screens are very effective if the are done correctly. I still think Tennessee takes this one, but I think it will be less than the spread.
 
#32
#32
If we can't throw into windows, I'm not sure any of that will matter. Florida has enough talent to force us to beat them throwing actual passes, not screens all game.
You’re a reasonably smart guy from past observations. Throwing those screens was a counter to them playing a drop eight middle with blitzes. They wanted to shorten the game, keep it close, and not get beat long over the middle. Heupel decided we could run, and throw the swing screen and force them to play us tighter so we could run more. It’s an odds game. When he saw how bad our chemistry was in the face of their zone, he simplified the game and quit pushing when we were two scores up. I totally agree that Milton will have to throw crosses into coverage, and receivers will have to catch balls that they can touch with both hands, but I also think our game plan for Florida is in a different universe than what we did from the second quarter on last night.
 
#33
#33
I’m cautious with any optimism after yesterday. If the defense can get pressure on the QB consistently it should help us get the job done.
 
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You’re a reasonably smart guy from past observations. Throwing those screens was a counter to them playing a drop eight middle with blitzes. They wanted to shorten the game, keep it close, and not get beat long over the middle. Heupel decided we could run, and throw the swing screen and force them to play us tighter so we could run more. It’s an odds game. When he saw how bad our chemistry was in the face of their zone, he simplified the game and quit pushing when we were two scores up. I totally agree that Milton will have to throw crosses into coverage, and receivers will have to catch balls that they can touch with both hands, but I also think our game plan for Florida is in a different universe than what we did from the second quarter on last night.
You're probably right but even when they drop 8 we have to be able to run something besides screens like running wheel stops, digs, double slants, double posts, etc. There were a lot of pressures from AP that gave us trouble too.
 
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#38
You're probably right but even when they drop 8 we have to be able to run something besides screens like running wheel stops, digs, double slants, double posts, etc. There were a lot of pressures from AP that gave us trouble too.
I agree, and I think we’ll come out ready to throw other routes. I just think Heupel took a low risk/low upside plan with AP when we looked wobbly. You’re also right that AP saw something in our OL on the outside and gave us fits with those inside out blitzes and delayed blitz. The one brilliant call was the Milton TD run. If they collapse on the RB and blitz outside, we have to run Milton more.
 
#40
#40
Its pretty simple for other teams. Stop or slow down the run and make Milton beat you with his arm and decision making

Lucky for us, the defense seems better than last year.

Special teams are very worrisome though
Simply put, and spot on. ^^^^For other teams, it really is a pretty simple game plan against our offense.
 
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#44
ESPN FPI after this weekend’s update dropped TN to 22. It has this game as essentially a toss up with a slight favor to TN (55-45). Last year, TN was favored around 85% on game day.
I think 22 is about right, but the poll having Ala number 1 killed its credibility.
 
#46
#46
Given that UT hasnt won a game in Gainsville in 20 years and only 2 times in the last 50 years i think favoring UT is a huge sign of support and belief in the program.
 
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#47
You’re thinking about the wrong things. Transitive property never works in football. Florida is slow on defense, they have bad lines on both sides, and their qb is shaky. They have a good RB, LB core can tackle and they have some very good transfers and young guys who didn’t play at Utah. Beating them in the swamp will not be a cake walk, but we have better athletes, better depth and our defense is going to make it hard for them. We need Mays, Beasley, and our receivers to have a healthy prep week. Our DB’s need to get smarter fast, but we are definitely the better team.
Exactly right wrt the Transitive property. It’s all about match ups and you always match up differently with each team based on their strengths and weaknesses. It’s why every game is, in a sense, it’s own season.
 
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Given that UT hasnt won a game in Gainsville in 20 years and only 2 times in the last 50 years i think favoring UT is a huge sign of support and belief in the program.

The 50 year thing is kinda overblown because we’ve only played them every year for 30, but yes I see your point. We need the win this Saturday, we don’t get them enough down there.
 
#49
#49
The 50 year thing is kinda overblown because we’ve only played them every year for 30, but yes I see your point. We need the win this Saturday, we don’t get them enough down there.
Its significant to me because I'm 45 and have only ever seen 2 wins in Gainsville. So its hard for me to believe UT is favored and gives me hope.
 
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