Vols Set To Support Breast Cancer Awareness

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I just think unfortunately these type of promotions tend to serve the internal interests of the organizations behind them more than it helps those actually in need.
 
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Manvol said:
My sister fought breast cancer and this is awful. It didn't change a thing. More men die from colon cancer we going to wear brown next,,,less than 10% of money raised actually go to research...
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I don't think that is correct. Don't post figures like that unless you post your source.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
Only on VN do we b**** and moan about this. Wtf is wrong with people.
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This...times a big number. I think any cancer awareness is a great thing because every single one of us has been somehow effected by it. Unless I see otherwise, I believe more women get colon cancer than men get breast cancer. Breast cancer is a top 3 killer of cancers, so the cause is beneficial. While October is breast cancer awareness month, I always associate it with "cancer" awareness month because more research on any ONE cancer will help them all. JMO.
 
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are the ladies ever going to wear blue for prostate cancer? or does anyone care about sons, brothers, husbands and fathers?

or do we only care about daughters, sisters, wives and mothers.

i hope they find a cure for any and every deadly disease. but, it really ticks me off that even diseases have become political.
 
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JimVol said:
I am all for this...

This Link says 71.2% goes to programs and services sponsored by the ACS

Yes, I know that these programs and services are not all "research" but there is so much more to this problem than "curing" cancer. There is the real life fact that people have to live with this.

There is survivor support, end of life care, wigs, etc. etc. Things that do help.

IMHO its not about the sales of pink merchandise.. its simply the visual of the pink on the players. If its enough to get a few people to do some more self checks or go get a mammogram... then its 100% worth it.

Also, you people who are saying that more people die of colon cancer, prostate cancer.. etc etc.. I 100% agree with you... so my question to you is... why are you not taking up the cause that you pointed out. Why are you not raising money, creating drives, and doing whatever you can to bring awareness to the issues? Stop complaining about breast cancer awareness and do something about the other things.

Thanks!

Jeremiah
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That's really not a very good number.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I am too. I have made donations. I have a lady friend bravely combating this cancer now.

I'd like to see something change. It's rare (I think) but men get breast cancer too. When one goes into a breast cancer clinic/service for help, I'd like to see him get it. Instead of shown the door and told the clinic serves women patients only. I'm not talking about guys who had surgery to become a woman or something like that. But a genuine man who is among that unlucky few who encountered the misfortune.
Yes, it happens: Man with ‘painful’ lump the size of golf ball in his breast is denied access to mammogram because of his sex
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It would be extremely difficult to give any male a mammogram. You basically have to have boobs for it to work. You insert boobs into a device that squeezes them and takes an image. A man with a lump in the breast area needs a biopsy -- stat.

Mammograms are for detection of internal lumps and tumors that aren't large enough to be felt. They're preventative medicine much like a colonoscopy or an endoscopy. If you can detect polyps and tumors early you can treat them before they spread.
 
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99gator said:
are the ladies ever going to wear blue for prostate cancer? or does anyone care about sons, brothers, husbands and fathers?

or do we only care about daughters, sisters, wives and mothers.

i hope they find a cure for any and every deadly disease. but, it really ticks me off that even diseases have become political
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Shut up
 
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Manvol said:
My sister fought breast cancer and this is awful. It didn't change a thing. More men die from colon cancer we going to wear brown next,,,less than 10% of money raised actually go to research...
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VolInVonore, advice is proper, Manvol. I myself believe that too much of donated money goes into the personal pockets of thse vested with running charity programs. I've seen the TV reports, online newspaper reports, etc. Long before that, I saw some riding around in limos, wearing Armani and Pravada clothing costing enough to pay my mortgage for three months. However, if such a claim as yours in going to be made, it is proper to cite the source. I'm one to preach because I've done exactly as you have more than once in the past. But hey man, we can all learn from one another.
 
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UTProf said:
It would be extremely difficult to give any male a mammogram. You basically have to have boobs for it to work. You insert boobs into a device that squeezes them and takes an image. A man with a lump in the breast area needs a biopsy -- stat.

Mammograms are for detection of internal lumps and tumors that aren't large enough to be felt. They're preventative medicine much like a colonoscopy or an endoscopy. If you can detect polyps and tumors early you can treat them before they spread.
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Given. The point is, the man was refused, and there have been others as well, treatment BECAUSE they were men. The growths were actually visible because most men don't consider themselves as susceptive to breast cancer so never think of getting screened.

Now, the procedure you described above isn't the only means of detecting breast cancer. There's ultra sound, MRI, nipple discharges, and other means. So once again, the point is the men were denied service simply because they were men and not due to the difficulty of testing for the cancer. My concern is that the service should discriminate against men under any pretext because there's no reason for that. Many of us men donate regularly to these organizations.

How is breast cancer diagnosed?
 
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99gator said:
are the ladies ever going to wear blue for prostate cancer? or does anyone care about sons, brothers, husbands and fathers?

or do we only care about daughters, sisters, wives and mothers.

i hope they find a cure for any and every deadly disease. but, it really ticks me off that even diseases have become political.
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99gator, I suspect you're going to be vilified for this post. But you make a good point. Our society has a lot of one-sided only and female heavy realities. Example, women reporters can come into professional sports locker rooms even while the men are showering etc. But men reporters can't do the same with say female professional golfers and basketball players. My personally belief is everybody should wait outside the locker room until the players exit. But the current situation is too one-sided, same thing with the guy who was denied care for breast cancer. Bring your daughters to work, often in workplaces they literally exclude the sons. I've seen it happen. School age girls can join a boys' team but the reverse is disallowed, except maybe for baton whirling on cheerleading squad.
 
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Some real arrogance up in this thread.

Last year we were the only team in the SEC NOT to participate. Regardless of your personal opinions of the campaign when you are the only one not participating it makes you look like an insensitive jackass.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Some real arrogance up in this thread.

Last year we were the only team in the SEC NOT to participate. Regardless of your personal opinions of the campaign when you are the only one not participating it makes you look like an insensitive jackass.
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Hmmm. That sounds like peer pressure to me. I recall two incidents where a guy was called and ingrate and a jackass. One as youth, when a bunch of boys decided to throw eggs and rocks at an elderly woman's house to give her a scare. He backed out and went home. Became a jackass to his peers of the rock and slop gang. Two, a woman called an ingrate when she donated a large sum of money directly to United Way instead of through her employer. People there blabbed a lot, especially the secretaries. She didn't want anyone t know so as to appear to be a showoff or to attract stray dogs (men interested in her for her money) or borrowers. Got called an ingrate, selfish, heartless and more. It's peer pressure. My understanding is the UT is very generous in donating to not only the breast cancer agencies but many others as well. While I'd like to see a shout out at the UT for this, the best givers are those who do it without any desire for reward, including being lauded. In other words, not doing it just because everyone else is doing it. Peer pressure.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Hmmm. That sounds like peer pressure to me. I recall two incidents where a guy was called and ingrate and a jackass. One as youth, when a bunch of boys decided to throw eggs and rocks at an elderly woman's house to give her a scare. He backed out and went home. Became a jackass to his peers of the rock and slop gang. Two, a woman called an ingrate when she donated a large sum of money directly to United Way instead of through her employer. People there blabbed a lot, especially the secretaries. She didn't want anyone t know so as to appear to be a showoff or to attract stray dogs (men interested in her for her money) or borrowers. Got called an ingrate, selfish, heartless and more. It's peer pressure. My understanding is the UT is very generous in donating to not only the breast cancer agencies but many others as well. While I'd like to see a shout out at the UT for this, the best givers are those who do it without any desire for reward, including being lauded. In other words, not doing it just because everyone else is doing it. Peer pressure.
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Are you really comparing throwing eggs at a an old lady's house with participating in breast cancer awareness?

Perception is a big thing in this case. UT has done plenty for BCA, if I'm not mistaken the Lady Vols generally wear pink unis at least once a year. However, football is the biggest stage and the face of UT athletics. To appear too good to participate is crass.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Are you really comparing throwing eggs at a an old lady's house with participating in breast cancer awareness?

Perception is a big thing in this case. UT has done plenty for BCA, if I'm not mistaken the Lady Vols generally wear pink unis at least once a year. However, football is the biggest stage and the face of UT athletics. To appear too good to participate is crass.
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Well, if one wants to just pull one thing out of a post and make it seem like something it wasn't content-wise, OK. I suggest you wear pink tomorrow, I'll be donning my usual orange even if forced to stay at home this time. :hi:
 
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Only on VN would posting that your not a fan of the team wearing pink uniforms/ towels/ gloves/ etc equal that you are a supporter of breast cancer.

If this is such a big help to breast cancer shouldn't TN wear pink accessories all season? I am just stating my opinion that the pink is not that helpful and there are much better ways for UT to support the fight against cancer.
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
Only on VN would posting that your not a fan of the team wearing pink uniforms/ towels/ gloves/ etc equal that you are a supporter of breast cancer.

If this is such a big help to breast cancer shouldn't TN wear pink accessories all season? I am just stating my opinion that the pink is not that helpful and there are much better ways for UT to support the fight against cancer.
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And UT does many of those things as well. So what is wrong with doing one more thing?

Personally I don't give much thought to breast cancer throughout the year. I guess I'm fortunate that it has not impacted my life thus far. When I see those pink accents on NFL unis every Oct it brings it to my attention. Makes me stop and reflect on it for a moment. That is the sole purpose of AWARENESS month.

If seeing those pink accents on football unis one month (or in UT's case, one week) out of the year makes one mother, daughter , sister, or wife stop and think "I should go get a mammogram", even if one father, son, brother, or husband stops and suggest to the women in his life that they should get checked, and it results in early detection and a life saved then it's worth it.
 
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