Vote for U.T. Cheerleader

#101
#101
What a crock of :censored:. If they wanted to fix it then they shouldn't have let people vote the way it was in the first place. I tell you what, this is stupid. People should be able to vote as many times as they want. I just went there and it said I could vote again. Talk about STUPID.
 
#102
#102
For what it's worth, you can votge as many times as you want, you just can't use the loophole. I didn't know about the loophole that let you voge numerous times without entering in a new code until Monday and I don't think that it ever worked for me - did it work for you guys? Were you using it - be honest, I am totally curious and nobody has anything to lose by just trying to straighten out what happened. Here is a post by one of our IT guys on what he figured out through reading the java script on the site somehow - anyways, it is a message to you guys that were visiting our board, but maybe some of y'all don't even know what the heck a Mean Green is...

From Smitty, a poster on GoMeanGreen.com:

For the Tennessee voters watching our site:

I, and I think most UNT fans, do not believe you did anything wrong. There was a flaw in Athlon's website, probably somewhere in all that Javascript code. You exploited it, we exploited it. I do not believe anyone in either camp intended to cheat.

But here's just a theory on why the numbers changed so dramatically today:

For those who don't know, the "shortcut" being discussed was a flaw that allowed a voter to register multiple votes while typing in a vote code once, then hitting enter multiple times in rapid succession. The way the numbers flowed over the past week, I wonder - just wonder - if some Vols discovered the shortcut first, and hence the shortcut helped Ms. Manners to surge into the lead. A few days ago, Caris was up 8,000 or more, and in a weekend, the Vols overcame that lead and quickly built a 14,000-vote advantage.

That, in turn, inspired UNT members to increase their voting while still using the intended method - one click, one vote. Meanwhile, some of your members were using the shortcut, and hence casting votes that were later to be thrown out. Once a few UNT members discovered the shortcut, the difference in the real numbers had been established.

It is a shame that things turned in the manner they did. I thought the banter between us had been good natured and fairly respectful. You gave us our due, and we gave you yours. I still give you your due. It would have been better if the scoreboard had been accurate all along, and some people on this board are being poor front-runners. That's the way trash talk goes.

I also I have little doubt that you hear a lot worse from Auburn or Alabama or Florida fans, and I have no doubt that you give as good as you get. I am more disappointed to read on your board that your members who called Athlon to see what happened were apparently chastised by Athlon. That was uncalled for. After all, it was Athlon's mistake.

But despite Athlon's mistake, the playing field was level. The mistake existed for both sides. I have no idea who contacted Athlon. I don't think it was one of us. Perhaps Athlon just spotted the odd vote surges from both sides in the last few days and investigated. I hope that's what happened.

I want Caris and UNT to win this, but frankly I'll be glad when it's finished. It seems that Athlon's contest has sullied the spirit it intended to build.

Sincerely,
Smitty
 
#103
#103
This is getting old now. Everyone should just let North Texas win it. What's the point of voting all of those times? Even if you did catch back up, North Texas would just pick up the phone, call Athlon and cry until some more votes were taken away. Seems like a lost cause. If they're willing to go to that extent for a silly cheerleading contest, they're obviously desperate and probably need it more. Let the poor people have it.
 
#104
#104
That 14,000 lead that you are talking about was hard earned.The squad got together at
U.T. and voted their butts off.
6 of us met at my sisters computer shop and did the same. I watched us both hit 100,000 Sunday. I know we were all cheering.
Your team went up 9,000 the Monday before and it was from honest voting,going by the chatter.I called Athlon and told them that both sides had worked hard. I was told that they had numerous calls/emails aout us cheating, If you think about it Sunday there were 2 ip's being used and used hard. We earned those votes.
It just isnt worth it anymore. I know how hard we all worked and to be reported as cheating just broke my heart and spirit. No one went to bat for us, just reported us as cheaters. We were in a huge lag from the voting, as i feel sure your team was. As someone posted, they probably did hit the vote thing more than once trying to get the thing to move. We did not use an "exploit", or at least not intentionally.
Smitty, i want to thank you for your kind words. You have been fun to watch.
 
#105
#105
Just remember this episode next August/Sept. when you are deciding whether to take home the Lindy's or Athalon SEC preview. Tell your friends and family as well. I already emailed 'em and let them know that I won't be buying their products any more.
 
#111
#111
North Texas definitely needs something to cheer about. Their football team isn't doing anything to earn cheers.
 
#112
#112
I sent Athlon an e-mail about the voting and asked them what the heck was going on. I got this e-mail in return:

The person who tipped us off was Shawn Manners mother. She left me a voice mail at my office on Monday afternoon - and called again Tuesday morning followed by several email correspondance.

Thanks;
Michael R. Bagnall
Senior Programmer, eCommerce & Portal Manager
michael.bagnall@athlonsports.com
 
#113
#113
JennVols said:
I sent Athlon an e-mail about the voting and asked them what the heck was going on. I got this e-mail in return:

The person who tipped us off was Shawn Manners mother. She left me a voice mail at my office on Monday afternoon - and called again Tuesday morning followed by several email correspondance.

Thanks;
Michael R. Bagnall
Senior Programmer, eCommerce & Portal Manager
michael.bagnall@athlonsports.com
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I find this response you received hilarious. Does not sound like a stereotypical crazy cheerleader mom at all.
 
#114
#114
Tipped them off about what? Some how how that does not sound just right. Mrs.Manners has voted as hard as anyone here.
 
#115
#115
Now that my blood pressure has gone down about 10 notches, that does make sence. Shawn's mom calls the magazine and tells them that U.T.is cheating,making sure that she uses Mrs.Shawn Mathers as her name. Dang that was good planning on someone's part wasnt it. My hat is off to the devious jerk that thought that up.I guess that some people have to win and it does not mattter how they get there. Mrs. Manners, and her first name is not Shawn, is a decent person that holds a full time job and just wants her child to have a U.T. education, she is above that kind of thing and i hope that whoever did it enjoys a win that was not honest.
We were not the only team that lost points, the other big lead team lost over 40,000. Somehow that never gets mentioned.
I am still voting, and i hope some of you will join me, i cant go down because someone lied.
 
#119
#119
JennVols said:
I sent Athlon an e-mail about the voting and asked them what the heck was going on. I got this e-mail in return:

The person who tipped us off was Shawn Manners mother. She left me a voice mail at my office on Monday afternoon - and called again Tuesday morning followed by several email correspondance.

Thanks;
Michael R. Bagnall
Senior Programmer, eCommerce & Portal Manager
michael.bagnall@athlonsports.com
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Wow. Could there be any better plate of BS I have ever seen (Other than the BCS folks)?
 
#120
#120
tango33 said:
Now that my blood pressure has gone down about 10 notches, that does make sence. Shawn's mom calls the magazine and tells them that U.T.is cheating,making sure that she uses Mrs.Shawn Mathers as her name. Dang that was good planning on someone's part wasnt it. My hat is off to the devious jerk that thought that up.I guess that some people have to win and it does not mattter how they get there. Mrs. Manners, and her first name is not Shawn, is a decent person that holds a full time job and just wants her child to have a U.T. education, she is above that kind of thing and i hope that whoever did it enjoys a win that was not honest.
We were not the only team that lost points, the other big lead team lost over 40,000. Somehow that never gets mentioned.
I am still voting, and i hope some of you will join me, i cant go down because someone lied.
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Umm....the quote didn't mention Mrs. Shawn Manners. She could have called...thinking that this "cheat" that was discovered over the weekend by the UT crew could have been the reason North Texas was able to build such a lead....and wanted to level the playing field. Unless, of course, you have spoken to her and she has told you she didn't call.
 
#121
#121
I have spoken with her, and she is not happy that her name is being tossed out there. She has been in meetings all week from 7am till 7 pm getting contractor bids with people from out of state. The woman is exausted and then this happens.
Funny when i called Athlon Monday they never bothered to mention that. The same guy said he had numerous calls/emails stating that U.T. was cheating.
The only thing he wanted from me what where Texas had posted for their people to stop using the "exploit" before they got their cheerleader disqualified.
They are still ahead and still yelling "cheat"

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You can read for yourself. They hardly mention that they got nailed for over 40,000 points as they are polishing their halos.
And as for him saying that she called Monday afternoon, they had started removing points around 11 am. I just dont understand what Athlon is trying to do, keep the voting going...what?
Oh and we worked like dogs Sunday and got us ahead, so i cant see anyone saying we were cheating. Well, from U.T. anyway.
 
#122
#122
I think that you did cheat....but didn't know it. I know that I clicked vote twice a few times because of some lag I was getting. I was probably responsible for at least 5 to 10 of the "cheating votes". But, so many votes were coming in ... there was no way that I could actually see that this was counting as two votes. I'm sure that a lot of you cheated...but that isn't the right word, is it? Athalon messed up. They have caused a lot of hurt feelings, confusion, exasperation, etc. I can't believe they have the nerve to post things like "stop cheating or we will...." when it was their mistake and they just need to fix it. I don't like that fact that we can even be accused of cheating (by people like North Texas) when I'm not sure that many people did it on purpose. How many votes do we think were actually voted that way on purpose...and how did someone actually realize this was happening?
 
#123
#123
And I'm sure that N. Texas is a victim of this as well... and that yes some of thier fans realized that you could vote in this way...and knowingly did as eveidence by the subtraction of votes yet they are still throwing stones at us. Juts a crock I think. As posted earlier I will think twice when deciding what season SEC preview o buy.
 
#124
#124
I think that the subject is getting very old, and i feel sure i am not alone.
Any one want to help me vote?
Maybe this Sunday we can get on at 5 pm again and pull a forth quarter win.
Vote vote vote!!!
 
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