Want to help Tennessee NIL (Spyre Sports)?

#51
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Jackcrevol said:
they're asking us dolts for $19.51, how do you think it compares?
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We have a large fan base. If even only 10K people did this plan that’s $195K per month. I would wager we could get way more than that. That’s not even counting the big boosters and medium boosters
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
We have a large fan base. If even only 10K people did this plan that’s $195K per month. I would wager we could get way more than that. That’s not even counting the big boosters and medium boosters
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I would speculate that the mind trusts are reading the small print and trying to find out how they can INCENTAVIZE groups to make NIL deals that favor UT targets without actually channeling funds or player selection through the school. Access to the jumbotron(s), signage, "Partnerships", et. al. to get some high end deals that still pass the restrictions of the money being tied to performance or playing for a particular school will be the way to their hearts and wallets. Being on the NCAA adjudication list probably has probably kept us out of pushing the envelope as hard as those schools that are not.
 
#53
#53
Sorry but I'm not about to contribute to a Go Fund Me that pays pampered, over privileged athletes to come here, underperform, and then hit the transfer portal a year later.

NIL is not turning out to be what I thought it would be. I thought the whole point of NIL was that when an athlete got here, they would have the opportunity to earn some money off of their name, image, and likeness with local businesses by doing commercials, making appearances, advertising on billboards, selling merch, etc. I was all for that! I was all for the idea of businesses paying athletes and in return receive actual services rendered by them. But no, all it has done is create crazy bidding wars for unproven athletes between universities and I'll bet the players wont have to do a damn thing but show up on campus and collect their checks! Its disgusting and I will not participate and Im seriously on the verge of saying "f_ck it" and finding something else to follow.
 
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TNnative said:
Oh, BS! I am not donating to NIL. If I am gonna donate to anything, it will be sick kids, disease research, or something else that I know will be well invested. Not to buy tacos.
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Exactly! I love Tennessee football but if these players want NIL money they need to ****ing earn it! They need to collaborate with a local business and get paid for SERVICES RENDERED by making personal appearances, signing autographs, shooting commercials, putting their images on billboards, etc. I am not ****ing donating to a player just so he'll bless us with his presence and play football here! My "donation" to this program is buying tickets, paying gas, cheering in the stands, buying a hot dog and a beer, buying merch, etc.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I hope you are right. But I just watched the most recent Talkin Vawls podcast on YouTube. They had one of Spyre sports guys (James Clawson) on to talk about NIL. Now he did say he believes we have big time donors ready. He also said that Neyor has a good NIL deal at TN. But he just wanted to stay in Texas.

Now to the weird part. Clawson was asked what can fans do? Well he talked about creating the 1951 club. He said their goal is to get 100k people paying $19.51 a month. That’s roughly 2 million a month and about 24 million a year. Then he said if that happened then they could take that 24 million and get the big donors to match that. That doesn’t really sound like we are in that good of shape. JMO.
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Seems pretty vague on what he’s collecting the money for. Are there any specifics in the form of a prospectus-like document?

I’m not certain that forking over payola to players with no metrics about what the payor is getting in terms of advertising ROI is how NIL is supposed to work.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Exactly! I love Tennessee football but if these players want NIL money they need to ****ing earn it! They need to collaborate with a local business and get paid for SERVICES RENDERED by making personal appearances, signing autographs, shooting commercials, putting their images on billboards, etc. I am not ****ing donating to a player just so he'll bless us with his presence and play football here! My "donation" to this program is buying tickets, paying gas, cheering in the stands, buying a hot dog and a beer, buying merch, etc.
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Perhaps if we start thinking of these players as professional athletes whose team "refuses" to pay them, NIL will be easier to stomach.

If we want UT to field a competitive SEC and CFB team, we're going to need elite players. Those players get paid JUST TO PLAY now much better than they did 10 years ago. Boosters aren't going to be able to keep up anymore with the market price for recruiting elite players.

Whatever money worked to get a player like Jauan Jennings to play at UT is no longer enough.

If we want to maintain a professional level of play, we need to recruit professional players. It is a fact that we can watch good players going to places that are paying better.....aTm, TX, Bama, GA...... who will be our competitors. Like it or not, it's a fully professional marketplace that UT is competing in now and the old "deep pockets are providing a car" and "envelopes after a game" system is no longer going to be enough.

If we don't help, we won't achieve beyond 7-8 wins a season because other team's fans will have bought their team better players. It's no longer just big money boosters who have to pony up more, it's all of us because the market price for players has gone up considerably.
 
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I can tell you that Spyre has been working hard in preparation for NIL opportunities since before it was fully approved. I've been working with them though Dick's House of Sport since July.
They brought us a baseball NIL deal and we're currently working on one with some football players. Bridge Management Group is bringing us a deal as well, but Spyre is who basically works as the middle-man for the university.
 
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golfballs said:
Please do not waste your money. Universities are raking in tens of millions in revenue. They can pay the players, don’t waste your hard earned money.
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This is not accurate. They aren’t allowed to pay the athletes. That’s the whole reason why they hired Spyre.
 
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Panthro said:
I can tell you that Spyre has been working hard in preparation for NIL opportunities since before it was fully approved. I've been working with them though Dick's House of Sport since July.
They brought us a baseball NIL deal and we're currently working on one with some football players. Bridge Management Group is bringing us a deal as well, but Spyre is who basically works as the middle-man for the university.
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Can we safely assume the deal involves DHOS paying particular players for specific endorsements? I’m certainly intrigued by Spyre’s attempts to measure particular athletes’ value with actual metrics - i.e. organic followers, organic likes, mentions across a diverse set of platforms, etc.

Seems like On3 is proceeding on a similar track.

Heck, there’s enough here to start a pretty compelling journal article. It’s huge advertising shift, which always spells opportunity.

Always enjoy your posts, @Panthro. Any chance y’all could help our North Atlanta alumni chapter with a charity golf tournament? 🤔
 
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Panthro said:
This is not accurate. They aren’t allowed to pay the athletes. That’s the whole reason why they hired Spyre.
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Will they be putting out monthly or quarterly statements to those who contribute? Since the university hired them, I assume they have received quite a bit of money from the big time boosters? While I'm sure they are probably legit, showing expenses, staff salaries, etc should be required. As mentioned before if 100k sign up for $20 a month, that's over 20 million a year. A good chunk of change with no regulations it seems.
 
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Fan appreciation NIL package. 100,000 fans fork out $100 bucks a year. Fans vote on most deserving player. 10 mill might get us some 5 stars in here.
 
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Mccage said:
Fan appreciation NIL package. 100,000 fans fork out $100 bucks a year. Fans vote on most deserving player. 10 mill might get us some 5 stars in here.
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Do they have to pay it back when they hit the transfer portal after 2 seasons?
 
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kcvols1 said:
Can we safely assume the deal involves DHOS paying particular players for specific endorsements? I’m certainly intrigued by Spyre’s attempts to measure particular athletes’ value with actual metrics - i.e. organic followers, organic likes, mentions across a diverse set of platforms, etc.

Seems like On3 is proceeding on a similar track.

Heck, there’s enough here to start a pretty compelling journal article. It’s huge advertising shift, which always spells opportunity.

Always enjoy your posts, @Panthro. Any chance y’all could help our North Atlanta alumni chapter with a charity golf tournament? 🤔
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Email eventsknx@dcsg.com and I'll get back with you.

Also, here's a link to our next NIL deal. It's for basketball: https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/...nockout-with-john-fulkerson-and-zakai-zeigler
 
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