War in Ukraine

[FLVOL_79]

Oh I’d definitely say I’ve seen quite a few staged ones yes. In fact some have been posted here by a trio of posters!

Russia is pulling out all the stops in their propaganda machine. But, because its Russia, the faked propaganda is easy to spot to the normal, logical thinking American (or human). I am continually surprised by the people in this country who fall for their sh!t. Reminds me of the Q-Anon folks and the "Trump golden shower in Russia" people.

 

[FLVOL_79]

So the videos of Ukrainian citizens saying the Ukrainian army was killing them is fake?

I'll be honest, I'd like to see a video of a Ukrainian citizen telling the camera that the Ukrainians killed them. I've never had or seen anything truly supernatural but this might be what makes me a believer.

 

[FLVOL_79]

For all the ones who carry water for either side on this thread, Russia and Ukraine are the two of the most corrupt countries on earth. I love seeing Russians get smashed, don't get me wrong, but the Ukrainian leadership is total and complete garbage, just like Pootin and his cronies.

Ukraine isn't actually the most corrupt Western country..Romania and Serbia have them beat when you look at it from a data based corruption index (2021 Corruption Perceptions Index - Explore the… - Transparency.org). Africa and Asia have them beat soundly with Russia frolicking in that terd world mix.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Interesting and NSFW/graphic drone video of Russians getting in a nice single file line and getting into a trench to fight like 4 Ukrainians. Needless to say their archaic tactics don't work out too well for them. It also looks like either Russia is dropping arty on the area (and hitting their own people) or Ukraine called in some danger close arty which wiped out the Russians. You also get to see the famous terd world stop drop and roll retreat tactic..

Spoiler

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoot...inian_defenders_push_back_russian_assault_on/

 

[FLVOL_79]

Some reading which will help everyone understand (and spot) our local VolNation Russian troll den..

Ukraine conflict: Inside Russia's 'Kremlin troll army'

Typical troll accounts, Moy Rayon noted, were operated by people posing as "housewives" and "disappointed US citizens"

Hmmm sounds familiar..

To avert suspicions, the fake users sandwich political remarks between neutral articles on travelling, cooking and pets.

Sports!

In addition to general guidelines, bloggers are also provided with "technical tasks" - keywords and talking points on specific issues, such as Ukraine, Russia's opposition and relations with the West.

Spoiler

10 rubles potatoes from my garden to the first troll who calls BBC an uncredible source of Western death cult propaganda

 

[DonjoVol]

Oh I’d definitely say I’ve seen quite a few staged ones yes. In fact some have been posted here by a trio of posters!

So the documentary by French journalist Anne Laure Bonnel which was made in 2016 consisted of actors and was all staged?

We have also asked you guys for proof that they were staged and you and others have failed to provide evidence supporting your claims.

 

[WBO]

A Russian bot? Lol. This is such a weak response. But that’s the liberal mindset. Can’t have a differing opinion. The party of acceptance only when you follow the status quo or whatever the left leaning news networks tell you.

I can't stop laughing over this. So you're attacking a liberal for being anti-Russian? Wow. I'm an old cold warrior so I admit my hostility to all things Russian. Their cultural insecurity (developed over 4000 years of being the invasion superhighway between Europe and Asia) prevents them from ever developing a democratic system because they prefer strongmen who emphasize security over anything else.

So you're right I am unaccepting of any arguments that favor Russia. But for you to insinuate that it's liberal bias to hate Russia is hilarious. 40 years ago it was the conservative line that liberals were too soft on the Soviet Union. Now you're saying we're too tough on Russia. Stunned.

Oh and what the hell do you mean "only when you follow the status quo?" What a stupid statement. Conservatism is the maintenance of the status quo by its nature. Liberalism believes in the constancy of change and the need to adapt.

 

[DonjoVol]

I can't stop laughing over this. So you're attacking a liberal for being anti-Russian? Wow. I'm an old cold warrior so I admit my hostility to all things Russian. Their cultural insecurity (developed over 4000 years of being the invasion superhighway between Europe and Asia) prevents them from ever developing a democratic system because they prefer strongmen who emphasize security over anything else.

So you're right I am unaccepting of any arguments that favor Russia. But for you to insinuate that it's liberal bias to hate Russia is hilarious. 40 years ago it was the conservative line that liberals were too soft on the Soviet Union. Now you're saying we're too tough on Russia. Stunned.

Oh and what the hell do you mean "only when you follow the status quo?" What a stupid statement. Conservatism is the maintenance of the status quo by its nature. Liberalism believes in the constancy of change and the need to adapt.

Conservatism is rejecting the present and the belief in individual freedom. Please stop confusing conservatism with the "religious right". The Democrat Party would fit your definition of conservatism as they are in favor of maintaining the status quo.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I can't stop laughing over this. So you're attacking a liberal for being anti-Russian? Wow. I'm an old cold warrior so I admit my hostility to all things Russian. Their cultural insecurity (developed over 4000 years of being the invasion superhighway between Europe and Asia) prevents them from ever developing a democratic system because they prefer strongmen who emphasize security over anything else.

So you're right I am unaccepting of any arguments that favor Russia. But for you to insinuate that it's liberal bias to hate Russia is hilarious. 40 years ago it was the conservative line that liberals were too soft on the Soviet Union. Now you're saying we're too tough on Russia. Stunned.

Oh and what the hell do you mean "only when you follow the status quo?" What a stupid statement. Conservatism is the maintenance of the status quo by its nature. Liberalism believes in the constancy of change and the need to adapt.

This is a clown show response. Liberals continue to show how big of a joke they are. You cannot even see how deadly your party is to the republic. You guys keep talking about democracy like it’s a good thing. You are anti Russia. Great. So are many people. But you are pro-China which is just as bad.

I never said we are too rough on Russia. It’s just the ridiculous sanctions are hurting us here at home. Meanwhile Russia is making money hand over fist. But hey keep on supporting the party that wants to destroy the economy, kill babies and normalize child abuse.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Lol. Of course you have. I am sure they are all staged. But you believe everything when it comes to Ukraine winning against Russia right?

Nope. But I do have enough common sense to dig a bit more than take any of it at face value. Try it some time

 

[NorthDallas40]

So the documentary by French journalist Anne Laure Bonnel which was made in 2016 consisted of actors and was all staged?

We have also asked you guys for proof that they were staged and you and others have failed to provide evidence supporting your claims.

No idea. Based on your body of work to date I generally don’t click on any links you post I don’t want internet herpes.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

A Russian bot? Lol. This is such a weak response. But that’s the liberal mindset. Can’t have a differing opinion. The party of acceptance only when you follow the status quo or whatever the left leaning news networks tell you.

Oh, it isn't just liberals. I would say the two biggest Ukrainiac groups are the liberals/DNC bootlickers and these Boomers that still carry over a grudge from the Cold War.

 

[DonjoVol]

No idea. Based on your body of work to date I generally don’t click on any links you post I don’t want internet herpes.

I never posted it. The documentary is from 2016. It's now 2022. Someone was reporting on this issue well before the establishment media and politicians told you and others to be outraged over Russia.

You can still find the documentary on YouTube.

 

[DonjoVol]

You mean after Assad let their leaders go, so he could get international aid for "fighting terrorists" to help him defeat the freedom fighters that were winning at the time?

I guess that self determination doesnt count either.

They weren't freedom fighters.

 

[DonjoVol]

Oh, it isn't just liberals. I would say the two biggest Ukrainiac groups are the liberals/DNC bootlickers and these Boomers that still carry over a grudge from the Cold War.

Unfortunately the term "liberal" has been hijacked by democrats. They aren't liberals. They are democrats. True liberals would never be in favor of never ending wars, siding with neocons, the military industrial complex, vaccine mandates, censorship by the government and corporations, abortion up until birth, transhumanism, etc.

 

[tvolsfan]

This is a clown show response. Liberals continue to show how big of a joke they are. You cannot even see how deadly your party is to the republic. You guys keep talking about democracy like it’s a good thing. You are anti Russia. Great. So are many people. But you are pro-China which is just as bad.

It’s almost impossible to come up with a serious response to this. Anything else to be hysterical about?

 

[NorthDallas40]

I never posted it. The documentary is from 2016. It's now 2022. Someone was reporting on this issue well before the establishment media and politicians told you and others to be outraged over Russia.

You can still find the documentary on YouTube.

Well if it’s really impartial journalism I guess we understand now why you didn’t post it! Did you post a summary by Lancaster by chance?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Two American Fighters Are Believed Captured By Russia In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

I just don't understand. These "patriots" would go halfway around the world to fight in Ukraine, yet there are zero "patriots" here in America doing anything about stolen elections and a tyrant on Pennsylvania Ave... All of that virtue signaling about standing for the flag and my 2nd Amendment... and for what?

 

[tvolsfan]

Two American Fighters Are Believed Captured By Russia In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

I just don't understand. These "patriots" would go halfway around the world to fight in Ukraine, yet there are zero "patriots" here in America doing anything about stolen elections and a tyrant on Pennsylvania Ave... All of that virtue signaling about standing for the flag and my 2nd Amendment... and for what?

What should they be doing about the “stolen” elections?

 

[DonjoVol]

Well if it’s really impartial journalism I guess we understand now why you didn’t post it! Did you post a summary by Lancaster by chance?

I don't have to post everything I come across. Plus I have more important things to do a lot of time than to post here on Volnation. You can find the documentary yourself.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I don't have to post everything I come across. Plus I have more important things to do a lot of time than to post here on Volnation. You can find the documentary yourself.

What you do post is largely shiite and I stopped clicking on your links a long time ago Curly.

 

[DonjoVol]

What you do post is largely shiite and I stopped clicking on your links a long time ago Curly.

It's probably because I completely embarrassed you on here a few months ago. You've been bitter ever since. Plus you fail to produce any logical or reasonable arguments.

 

[DonjoVol]

Two American Fighters Are Believed Captured By Russia In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

I just don't understand. These "patriots" would go halfway around the world to fight in Ukraine, yet there are zero "patriots" here in America doing anything about stolen elections and a tyrant on Pennsylvania Ave... All of that virtue signaling about standing for the flag and my 2nd Amendment... and for what?

I always thought it was democrats that virtue signaled. But Republicans and especially the self proclaimed libertarians are just as good at it as well.