War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
Russia isn't my team but I do support their liberation efforts in Ukraine. As I said from the beginning, this war was completely unnecessary if Ukraine wasn't governed by a corrupt regime. This is what they wanted, however.
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Russia is your team and they aren’t liberating anything they are the latest incarnation of the Asian conquering horde. And nobody is buying your dumbass state media propaganda this time either just like we haven’t bought into it in all the prior pages of posts on it Larry.
 
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volgr said:
As far as corruption, Russia is trending less corrupt and Ukraine is trending more corrupt. Russia has it's problems, no doubt, but it isn't more corrupt than Ukraine.
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We'll agree to disagree on that one I suppose. Besides terrible strategy and battlefield tactics that they haven't amended since the 1930's, Russias poor performance against a supposed inferior military foe can be linked to their Oligarchs sponging vast amounts off of every military contract. It has caught up with them and they now have poor equipment to show for it.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
And nobody is buying your dumbass state media propaganda
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The longer this goes, the more people in the US have seen crumbs of truth regarding this affair and are either changing their minds since Feb or have become generally disinterested in the Ukraine narrative. It is easily seen in the polling. Even with a lapdog media demonizing Russia on the daily, most people aren't buying it. That must suck for you guys.
 
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LouderVol said:
That's part of why I asked what all we sent them as far as warheads. I would think it's reasonable to think it could be someone else's warhead launched by a HIMAR system. The single point detonation only eliminates Ukraine if the only our missiles work for it, and if the only warhead we sent them had multiple charges.

Just pointing out if it comes to an Occam's razor argument we havent actually found the simplest reasonable explanation yet. Unless people here know a lot more than I do and arent sharing. Looking at ND40s background...
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I don’t know which specific munition types have been provided thus far only that they really want that ATACMS for its range that brings the Kerch Straight Bridge inti range. But I’d guess any of the GPS guided missiles have the accuracy capacity to strike within meters of a true coordinate point and with a single HE warhead could keep detonation to a single rooftop.

Look at the Al Zawahiri strike. That Hellfire variant doesn’t even use a blast warhead anymore. It’s the equivalent of a kinetic kill on soft targets using the six extended blades to contact the target. That munition is highly actuate however using LASER targeting instead of GPS guidance.
 
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volgr said:
The longer this goes, the more people in the US have seen crumbs of truth regarding this affair and are either changing their minds since Feb or have become generally disinterested in the Ukraine narrative. It is easily seen in the polling. Even with a lapdog media demonizing Russia on the daily, most people aren't buying it. That must suck for you guys.
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I’d guess you have to keep telling yourself that to keep the propaganda effort going. The fact is a huge number of Americans are buying it merely for the fact of the opportunity to cause Russia pain. It’s clear they are the aggressor and in the wrong here so the rest of it largely writes itself. And your stooge attempts at rewriting are not having any significant impact that I can see Larry.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Russias poor performance against a supposed inferior military foe can be linked to their Oligarchs sponging vast amounts off of every military contract. It has caught up with them and they now have poor equipment to show for it.
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Switch out "Russia's" for "US Weapons" and you have an accurate take on this conflict.
 
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volgr said:
Switch out "Russia's" for "US Weapons" and you have an accurate take on this conflict.
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Laughable Larry. The demonstrated performance of HIMARS alone laughs at your dumbassery and the morons who blew themselves up in Kherson unloading their own ammunition appreciates your water carrying to distract from their stupidity.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
The fact is a huge number of Americans are buying it merely for the fact of the opportunity to cause Russia pain.
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That isn't true either, because we aren't just causing pain to Russia. We are causing HUGE pain to ourselves and Europe in order to inflict pain on Russia. People are seeing that and understanding that. Either you are a troll or you have no clue what is going on outside your front door.
 
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Italy’s senate and chamber of deputies have approved NATO membership for Finland and Sweden. I was admittedly a little concerned their collapsing government and pro-Putin parties could hamper things. Looks like the only possible snags are Hungary and Turkey. And I’m not that sure about Hungary.
 
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volgr said:
That isn't true either, because we aren't just causing pain to Russia. We are causing HUGE pain to ourselves and Europe in order to inflict pain on Russia. People are seeing that and understanding that. Either you are a troll or you have no clue what is going on outside your front door.
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Oh it’s exactly true. There are 70 years of Cold War history that this Ukraine invasion fuels and reignites those decades old feelings. And no amount of your propaganda denials can change that. Russia has undone any progress they made in easing the West viewing them as a backwards ass authoritarian regime over the last few years since 2014 and highly accelerated with their 5 month old and growing Ukraine war.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I don’t know which specific munition types have been provided thus far only that they really want that ATACMS for its range that brings the Kerch Straight Bridge inti range. But I’d guess any of the GPS guided missiles have the accuracy capacity to strike within meters of a true coordinate point and with a single HE warhead could keep detonation to a single rooftop.

Look at the Al Zawahiri strike. That Hellfire variant doesn’t even use a blast warhead anymore. It’s the equivalent of a kinetic kill on soft targets using the six extended blades to contact the target. That munition is highly actuate however using LASER targeting instead of GPS guidance.
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Cant imagine being anywhere near the recieving side of those blades.
 
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volgr said:
That isn't true either, because we aren't just causing pain to Russia. We are causing HUGE pain to ourselves and Europe in order to inflict pain on Russia. People are seeing that and understanding that. Either you are a troll or you have no clue what is going on outside your front door.
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Btw, congrats on duping a group of people that mostly still wear a mask indoors and believe a man can get pregnant. Those people are tough to get one over on and they are largely the only group left still buying the Ukraine narrative.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
LASER terminal guidance is still the Mac Daddy on munitions delivery accuracy but it exposes the host platform painting the target to attack. It’s a considerable benefit that the host painter is an unmanned platform.
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I don't know much about modern weaponry but it appears that al-Zawahiri might have been killed by a direct hit while setting in his rocking chair.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
I don't know much about modern weaponry but it appears that al-Zawahiri might have been killed by a direct hit while setting in his rocking chair.
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From reading up it sounds like they exploited his overly routine morning behavior. Apparently every morning he would go to the same balcony at the same time and watch the morning sunrise and start of a new day. Sounds very enticing and peaceful but probably not a good pattern of behavior for a homicidal maniac to practice.

A few mornings ago there was an MQ-9 parked in the air and waiting with R9X Ginsu Hellfires on the hard points ready to launch when he showed. The public domain info on it implies you could purée an individual where they stand while leaving another individual standing feet away unscathed. An apex assassination platform really.

Oh also having the ability to operate an MQ-9 with impunity directly over Kabul shows just how backward ass the Taliban really is.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
From reading up it sounds like they exploited his overly routine morning behavior. Apparently every morning he would go to the same balcony at the same time and watch the morning sunrise and start of a new day. Sounds very enticing and peaceful but probably not a good pattern of behavior for a homicidal maniac to practice.

A few mornings ago there was an MQ-9 parked in the air and waiting with R9X Ginsu Hellfires on the hard points ready to launch when he showed. The public domain info on it implies you could purée an individual where they stand while leaving another individual standing feet away unscathed. An apex assassination platform really.
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Yea, purely mechanical, not explosive, from what I read.

Sadly it was going about 1000mph and he felt nothing.
 
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allvol123 said:
Yea, purely mechanical, not explosive, from what I read.

Sadly it was going about 1000mph and he felt nothing.
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Yeah that speed is a bit misleading. The Hellfire only briefly goes supersonic during the rocket motor impulse at launch. It then rapidly bleeds energy to subsonic as it “glides” to its target. It’s still hauling ass though.
 
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