War in Ukraine

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ButchPlz said:
Another $4.5B to Ukraine from the pockets of the American taxpayer. Yippee.
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The Afghanistan War, by the numbers:

US troops killed: 2,309 (Ukraine: 0)

US troops injured: 20,660 (Ukraine: 0)

Taliban members killed: 72,000

Afghan national security forces killed: 65,596 (Russian KIA: 25K+)

Afghan civilians killed: 38,480

US taxpayer dollars spent: $2,000,000,000 (2 trillion) (Ukraine: $54,000,000,000 (54 billion or about 1/40th of Afghanistan))

As wars go, this proxy situation is a great place to be for us. And far, far cheaper - especially when our 20K injured soldiers are considered.
 
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MontyPython said:
The Afghanistan War, by the numbers:

US troops killed: 2,309 (Ukraine: 0)

US troops injured: 20,660 (Ukraine: 0)

Taliban members killed: 72,000

Afghan national security forces killed: 65,596 (Russian KIA: 25K+)

Afghan civilians killed: 38,480

US taxpayer dollars spent: $2,000,000,000 (2 trillion) (Ukraine: $54,000,000,000 (54 billion or about 1/40th of Afghanistan))

As wars go, this proxy situation is a great place to be for us. And far, far cheaper - especially when our 20K injured soldiers are considered.
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That's us tax dollars that could actually be useful at home. Needlessly spending billions is causing some big issues in case you didn't notice.
 
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MontyPython said:
The Afghanistan War, by the numbers:

US troops killed: 2,309 (Ukraine: 0)

US troops injured: 20,660 (Ukraine: 0)

Taliban members killed: 72,000

Afghan national security forces killed: 65,596 (Russian KIA: 25K+)

Afghan civilians killed: 38,480

US taxpayer dollars spent: $2,000,000,000 (2 trillion) (Ukraine: $54,000,000,000 (54 billion or about 1/40th of Afghanistan))

As wars go, this proxy situation is a great place to be for us. And far, far cheaper - especially when our 20K injured soldiers are considered.
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That two trillion was over two decades. Ukraine hasnt even been a year. And that money was spent by US on US stuff serving the US.

The Ukraine money is going into the atmosphere.
 
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LouderVol said:
That two trillion was over two decades. Ukraine hasnt even been a year. And that money was spent by US on US stuff serving the US.

The Ukraine money is going into the atmosphere.
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It would be better if it went into the atmosphere.
 
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LouderVol said:
That two trillion was over two decades. Ukraine hasnt even been a year. And that money was spent by US on US stuff serving the US.

The Ukraine money is going into the atmosphere.
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Destroying Russia's military is of no value to us? Come on bro.
 
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hog88 said:
It’s not since they were never a threat to us other than their nuclear arsenal.
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Curious logic. Was Germany a threat to us during WWII?

Germany wasn't gonna invade us. They had no missiles that could hit us.

Yet, most reasonable, rational folks would agree that we did the right thing.

But in your view... 104,812 Americans died in Europe for no reason.

"America First" mantra is the epitome of "Karen-ism" here. People like you want it all, but are willing to sacrifice nothing.
 
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MontyPython said:
Curious logic. Was Germany a threat to us during WWII?

Germany wasn't gonna invade us. They had no missiles that could hit us.

Yet, most reasonable, rational folks would agree that we did the right thing.

But in your view... 104,812 Americans died in Europe for no reason.

"America First" mantra is the epitome of "Karen-ism" here. People like you want it all, but are willing to sacrifice nothing.
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We stayed out of the war in Europe (for the most part) for the first couple of years, what material we were sending England or Russia had to be paid in advance with hard currency. Then we had lend/lease, granted not all of that was paid back but what we're doing now is just giving Ukraine the material to fight this war. It should be the Europeans funding this fight if they want to halt Russian expansion.
 
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hog88 said:
We stayed out of the war in Europe (for the most part) for the first couple of years, what material we were sending England or Russia had to be paid in advance with hard currency. Then we had lend/lease, granted not all of that was paid back but what we're doing now is just giving Ukraine the material to fight this war. It should be the Europeans funding this fight if they want to halt Russian expansion.
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So as I said, you don't think we should have intervened with Germany in WWII.

Nuff said.

Adults will do the heavy lifting here.
 
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MontyPython said:
Curious logic. Was Germany a threat to us during WWII?

Germany wasn't gonna invade us. They had no missiles that could hit us.

Yet, most reasonable, rational folks would agree that we did the right thing.

But in your view... 104,812 Americans died in Europe for no reason.

"America First" mantra is the epitome of "Karen-ism" here. People like you want it all, but are willing to sacrifice nothing.
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Germany did have invasion plans of the US
 
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hog88 said:
I didn't say anything close to that.
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What you said was bullsh*t.

You failed to recognize that wars happen. Our intervention in WWII v. Germany was the right thing to do.

Isolationists and non-interventionists are deluded self absorbed Karens.
 
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