War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
The Poles would get their cheeks clapped.
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With what troops? 300k more conscripts? You are on crack if you think Russia has as many regular military units ready to fight Poland as they have in Ukraine. Heck they already pulled a significant number of forces in their 11th army corp defending Kalingrad to fight in ukraine. Poland would be able to steam roll that entire mistake off the map.

Russians/Wagner are building defenses in Belarus against the Ukrainians. That hardly speaks to confidence in the current fight.

After Kalingrad falls the Poles would be fighting the Russians across the narrow Belarusian front, which would favor their smaller army. Russia would lose a huge strategic assest before the real fighting even started.

Just curious, does Putin consider Kalingrad "Russia" to the effect of being able to do whatever he wants in defending it? Do you guys? I would love to hear your historical arguments on that.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Saying the quiet part...

Dem Congressman Claims Arming Ukraine Is About Protecting Woke Values | ZeroHedge

Raskin (D-MD) is apparently concerned that any slide in support for Ukraine represents an abandonment of woke values

“Moscow right now is … a world center of antifeminist, antigay, anti-trans hatred, as well as the homeland of replacement theory for export,” said the statement.​
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Calling Vladimir Putin an “imperialist” and a “colonizer,” Raskin went on to demonize the entire country.

“Moscow right now is a hub of corrupt tyranny, censorship, authoritarian repression, police violence, propaganda, government lies and disinformation, and planning for war crimes...​
In supporting Ukraine, we are opposing these fascist views, and supporting the urgent principles of democratic pluralism. Ukraine is not perfect, of course, but its society is organized on the radically different principles of democracy and freedom,” the statement said.​
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Man. If only Putin hadnt given them the chance to support Ukraine. We all would be better off.
 
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LouderVol said:
Can you find a Russian government approved casualty count for Russia?

It's easy to throw shade when your side wont even present any numbers to counter the wests narrative.
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Your side? Lol. You bunch of bumbling trolls claim anyone is pro Russian if they don't parrot or even question the pro Biden regime narrative.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Your side? Lol. You bunch of bumbling trolls claim anyone is pro Russian if they don't parrot or even question the pro Biden regime narrative.
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It's ok to question the Biden regime narrative.....I think many here just wished you would question the Putin regime equally.


One side not speaking the truth doesn't make the other truthful. This is politics and war. There is only the goal.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Your side? Lol. You bunch of bumbling trolls claim anyone is pro Russian if they don't parrot or even question the pro Biden regime narrative.
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So attacking the messenger and not the message.

I am going to take that as a "No, I dont have an approved Russian source with relatively up to date casaulties".

I am going to give you a hint, there is a reason Russia wont come out and admit their losses. And it's not because they are winning easily.
 
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I'll tell you what Donjo. It seems like the latest Ukrainian numbers were posted back in August, more than 9000 servicemen confirmed dead. You take at least 2x in wounded, so at least 18,000. And this was before their big offensive.

What were Russia's admitted losses around August?
 
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LouderVol said:
So attacking the messenger and not the message.

I am going to take that as a "No, I dont have an approved Russian source with relatively up to date casaulties".

I am going to give you a hint, there is a reason Russia wont come out and admit their losses. And it's not because they are winning easily.
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You and your fellow bumbling trolls attack the messenger all the time in here. You guys do it every single time. Especially when something negative is posted about your beloved Ukraine.
 
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LouderVol said:
I'll tell you what Donjo. It seems like the latest Ukrainian numbers were posted back in August, more than 9000 servicemen confirmed dead. You take at least 2x in wounded, so at least 18,000. And this was before their big offensive.

What were Russia's admitted losses around August?
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I asked Rocky Top Vol the question. Not you or Dallas. Let the person I asked the original question answer the question. Or maybe you trolls are that incompetent that you all have to act like a bunch of cackling hens anybody questions the pro Biden regime narrative.
 
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DonjoVol said:
You and your fellow bumbling trolls attack the messenger all the time in here. You guys do it every single time. Especially when something negative is posted about your beloved Ukraine.
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Still avoiding.

find a link to me attacking the messenger.

You guys talk a big talk about wanting a real discussion. But as soon as something comes up you dont like you turn to deflection or avoidance.
 
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LouderVol said:
Still avoiding.

find a link to me attacking the messenger.

You guys talk a big talk about wanting a real discussion. But as soon as something comes up you dont like you turn to deflection or avoidance.
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I don't have to find you a link. Once the original person I asked the question to answers my question then I'll consider to play along your ridiculous troll game.

Or do you really lack reading comprehension skills?
 
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DonjoVol said:
I asked Rocky Top Vol the question. Not you or Dallas. Let the person I asked the original question answer the question. Or maybe you trolls are that incompetent that you all have to act like a bunch of cackling hens anybody questions the pro Biden regime narrative.
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Getting a mite defensive arent we?

He posted a source that has been used throughout this thread. You questioned it, but couldnt back up why you were questioning it. Which is why I asked if you had a better source that offered different numbers on at least one of those items, that lead you to question him.

Without something to back up your question about those numbers, it looks like a political attack and not a fact or good faith question.

I have seen anywhere from 80k Russian casualties down to just over 10k. His numbers easily fall in that range, so you arent asking for proof based on solid incredulity.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I don't have to find you a link. Once the original person I asked the question to answers my question then I'll consider to play along your ridiculous troll game.

Or do you really lack reading comprehension skills?
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Oh, so now YOU cant respond directly to a question asked of you.

My, my, my, how the turn tables have turned.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yeppers. We demonstrated ASAT in the 1990’s Moe. That’s yet more technology your idiot Russian buddies are way behind on
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Once with a missile launched from an F-15 even. No wonder Musk was trying to cozy up to Pootin. Still seems like Musk has more money than brains. - apparently there are plenty of people who see his satellite swarm as a nuisance and wouldn't be unhappy if somebody shot them down.
 
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