War in Ukraine

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DonjoVol said:
Lol. Proctor I've told you and others multiple times that I'm not cheering for anyone. It's you guys and gals who get all giddy over people dying or just the thought of people dying.

Plus this conflict isn't over yet. It's like a chess match. And Russia still hasn't gone into the dark ages economically or have been isolated like you all wished for. They are still making energy deals and other trade deals with other nations.
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Except, for very few cases, no one is dying in this exchange of Kherson. Seems like you could comment plenty and avoid death giddiness. In fact this should be probably your favorite relatively major event in this fight.

If you want a real example of great military strategy I would say this bloodless win for Kherson js the apex example you could find.
 
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JuicyBrucey said:
You're looking at the war from a different perspective than most on here. One thing I keep seeing not just on here, but also by US government officials is "we're killing Russians without having to sacrifice any lives," that the lives of the Ukrainians who have died and will continue to die for the foreseeable future are worthless. If you don't think the deaths of the Ukrainians, who have already lost more people than we did in the entire Vietnam War, are worth it than you're automatically "on Putin's payroll."
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We arent sacrificing Ukrainians. It doesnt matter how much money or how many weapons we ship them. If they refused to pick them up there wouldnt be a fight.

Even if you want to argue the puppet aspect it still doesnt make sense. If they refuse our orders they would be under the russians and would be free of our oppressiveness.

The point is the Ukrainians themselves think this fight is worth it. The US is not throwing away their lives. The Ukrainians are choosing this fight. The only counter to this fact is that they should just let themselves be victims and not resist. I dont see how anyone can hold it against another nation for not having that outlook. It's their choice.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Another great morning in Kherson.

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You really hope that this war will have given Ukrainians a sense of national pride when they see what they've been able to accomplish by their own will with support from other countries. Assuming all the stories of corruption are true, perhaps they will realize that was something the Russians spread with their empire and throw that out with the Russians. The entire Soviet Union was ripe for corruption and power plays when the whole rotten scheme collapsed; this fight by the Ukrainians seemed to be a fight by the common man, and there should be a real lesson in what they can do to build a real country for themselves.
 
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Velo Vol said:
It something how drones, even low tech ones, have impacted warfare.

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There's a tremendous amount to learn from this war - stuff we didn't get from fighting in the sandboxes against primitives. We can learn now by helping out Ukraine or learn it later on a battlefield somewhere. Better to learn it when American lives are not a stake. What we've spent is not in vain.
 
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Why Ukraine will win the war... one video says it all.

Ukrainians fight for their country and survival.

Russians fight... for what?!?

I'd ask our resident Rushkins, but they seem to have all slithered back in their holes since Kherson was recaptured.

EDIT: Correction. Juicey might be in a South Korean debtors prison.

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LouderVol said:
If I am looking at a map correctly that spit connects to Crimea.

This would be huge if true. Not that I would want to have to advance on that front. But you would think anything on actual Crimea changes things a good bit.
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It's the other side of the Dnipro river. Looks like they are going into Kherson oblast across the river.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
About as significant in size and importance as Snake Island...
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Both of which were temporarily under occupation by your invading asshat homies but that has now been corrected Moe.

But this area is on the east side of the Dnieper River and provides a straight shot to the rest of your invading asshat homies in Kherson. That’s a bit different that Snake Island don’t ya think?
 
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