War in Ukraine

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AM64 said:
You really hope that this war will have given Ukrainians a sense of national pride when they see what they've been able to accomplish by their own will with support from other countries. Assuming all the stories of corruption are true, perhaps they will realize that was something the Russians spread with their empire and throw that out with the Russians. The entire Soviet Union was ripe for corruption and power plays when the whole rotten scheme collapsed; this fight by the Ukrainians seemed to be a fight by the common man, and there should be a real lesson in what they can do to build a real country for themselves.
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Dont count on it. They are already expecting $750B.
 
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AM64 said:
You really hope that this war will have given Ukrainians a sense of national pride when they see what they've been able to accomplish by their own will with support from other countries. Assuming all the stories of corruption are true, perhaps they will realize that was something the Russians spread with their empire and throw that out with the Russians. The entire Soviet Union was ripe for corruption and power plays when the whole rotten scheme collapsed; this fight by the Ukrainians seemed to be a fight by the common man, and there should be a real lesson in what they can do to build a real country for themselves.
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You really can't be this naive. This was a fight by foreign elites in Europe and the US in an attempt to maintain their racket and laundering activities in Ukraine. Plus, it is a great money making scheme for the MIC.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You really can't be this naive. This was a fight by foreign elites in Europe and the US in an attempt to maintain their racket and laundering activities in Ukraine. Plus, it is a great money making scheme for the MIC.
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So Pootin is a stooge for the European elites and started this whole war to do their bidding? Bold move Moe.
 
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Velo Vol said:
1) These people are nuts.

2) Remember when the Victoria Nuland was denounced here as a meddler merely for handing out cookies in Kyiv? Fun times.

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There are lots of admissions in this.
There is not much support for Russia in occupied territories. They are not moved by our ideology of saving them from Nazis. It will take decades to change their minds. We have to use bribes and threats to get support.
They had electricity and toilets before the war so they were living better than us.
We went in unprepared.
It's dishonest to call this just a special military operation instead of a war.
 
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Lol. These morons are getting nuttier and nuttier everyday.



I love how the Rooskies are trying to church this up by saying they are fighting NATO troops. Lololol. If they went against NATO their defeat would have been months and months ago. Bless their commie little hearts.
 
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Listening to those clips there is a lot of double talk. They are on air doubting their government while saying they trust it, have faith in it.

That is a problem for Putin. The narrative looks like it is beginning to break in a way that will be difficult for Putin to control without a show of force. I am curious what his next move will be.
 
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KB5252 said:
Listening to those clips there is a lot of double talk. They are on air doubting their government while saying they trust it, have faith in it.

That is a problem for Putin. The narrative looks like it is beginning to break in a way that will be difficult for Putin to control without a show of force. I am curious what his next move will be.
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If Putin maintains power as it seems to be, it will just be a chance for him to consolidate power as he cleans house.
 
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Burhead said:
Not just Ukraine being hurt. Parts of Moldova are without power because of these attacks. They damaged a line that Moldova uses to import energy from Romania.
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Power outages in Moldova after Russian strikes in Ukraine
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I am not understanding how this is happening. Seems weird that power has to leave Romania, enter Ukraine, and then enter Moldova. Moldova and Romania share a big border. This has to be a little one-off type area of Moldova. And Romania and Ukraines border is pretty far west, especially if you assume Russia is aiming away from those other two countries to hit Ukraine.

Also first article says the lines werent directly damaged, but shut down to avoid a power surge.
 
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