War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
They only thing they are drinking is that red, white and blue Koolaid that they have been giving us since WWII. These guys are actually convinced that going to fight in Vietnam and the Middle East protected our freedoms on Main Street USA.
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Just like you are convinced this war is saving you/them from drug crazed gay Nazis on main street Russia?
 
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KB5252 said:
The relationship was "fine" between the two until Ukraine rejected another Putin backed puppet and looked to the west for help tossing the yoke of Russian dominance of their affairs.
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Lol. Of course it is only Russia's fault in your eyes. And you're completely fine with a U.S., U.K. and EU installed puppet.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Lol. Of course it is only Russia's fault in your eyes. And you're completely fine with a U.S., U.K. and EU installed puppet.
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It's what the people wanted, what they voted for, what they asked for. Who else would be responsible for Russian puppet being rejected by Ukraine? You blame Ukraine, I blame the puppet master.

If next election the majority of the people want a Russian stooge so be it...... They get what they voted for, until then they get what they voted for.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Lol. Of course it is only Russia's fault in your eyes. And you're completely fine with a U.S., U.K. and EU installed puppet.
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Stupid as hell. In actuality Pootin “installed” Zelensky and Poroshenko by his own aggressive acts in violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and occupying territory. Ukraine had already rejected Russian puppet status thus if they were to avoid losing any more territory they had to have powerful friends. Enter literally every EU nation and all the other western countries who consider Russia a geopolitical foe. That’s completely on Pootin.
 
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KB5252 said:
It's what the people wanted, what they voted for, what they asked for. Who else would be responsible for Russian puppet being rejected by Ukraine? You blame Ukraine, I blame the puppet master.

If next election the majority of the people want a Russian stooge so be it...... They get what they voted for, until then they get what they voted for.
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So when Yanukovych was democratically elected it was actually Russia installing a puppet? Is that what you and these other clowns are claiming?
 
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DonjoVol said:
So when Yanukovych was democratically elected it was actually Russia installing a puppet? Is that what you and these other clowns are claiming?
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Bait and switch. When he pivoted to Russia he was removed via established processes. They then elected a leader who represented their wishes. He didn't pivot to Russia and he was allowed to serve. Another election was held and another candidate who wasn't a Russian stooge was elected.

This isn't that hard. The US didn't install a puppet as much as they helped the people get what they wanted....... And they continue still to elect leaders who won't cave to Russia to this day.

The people will elect what they want, if they don't deliver they get rid of them. If the people decide tomorrow they want Putin lite in power so be it. Let the people have what they want., It's their country.
 
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DonjoVol said:
So when Yanukovych was democratically elected it was actually Russia installing a puppet? Is that what you and these other clowns are claiming?
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Lol you are a lunatic...and it's not name calling it's factual. Just like you were the one who started the name calling. Sorry preemptive not letting you pretend to be a victim again
 
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volfanhill said:
Lol you are a lunatic...and it's not name calling it's factual. Just like you were the one who started the name calling. Sorry preemptive not letting you pretend to be a victim again
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Hope you are taking a look at yourself in the mirror with that first statement.
 
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volfanhill said:
Lol you are a lunatic...and it's not name calling it's factual. Just like you were the one who started the name calling. Sorry preemptive not letting you pretend to be a victim again
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Lol. You guys really are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on this topic. Yanukovych was a puppet but Poroshenko and Zelensky are not. You have lost your mind.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Lol. You guys really are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on this topic. Yanukovych was a puppet but Poroshenko and Zelensky are not. You have lost your mind.
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Right........ They loved Yanu so much they voted for his complete opposite twice. Don't look now but you kinda just invalidated your argument.
 
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DonjoVol said:
So when Yanukovych was democratically elected it was actually Russia installing a puppet? Is that what you and these other clowns are claiming?
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Comrade. Do they not teach you real history in Soviet Russia? Yank balked an joining the EU and decided to side with Putin. Why? All them rubles and potatoes homie! Then Ukraine exercised its constitutional rights and ousted him and voted in a new dude. America straight up didn't give two sh!ts.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Comrade. Do they not teach you real history in Soviet Russia? Yank balked an joining the EU and decided to side with Putin. Why? All them rubles and potatoes homie! Then Ukraine exercised its constitutional rights and ousted him and voted in a new dude. America straight up didn't give two sh!ts.
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Oh. Well I guess you need to hear the content of this leaked phone call between Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt. So yes the U.S. did care deeply. They even mentioned your personal favorite Tyahnybok - leader of the Svoboda Party.

Ukraine on Fire | Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt phone call - YouTube
 
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DonjoVol said:
Oh. Well I guess you need to hear the content of this leaked phone call between Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt. So yes the U.S. did care deeply. They even mentioned your personal favorite Tyahnybok - leader of the Svoboda Party.

Ukraine on Fire | Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt phone call - YouTube
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lol. No. America still didn't care. Your grasping at straws Comrade. What you posted is political due diligence from the previous ambassador and some other government official. Had to google every single name because I had no idea who they are because I, like almost all red blooded real Americans, never gave a sh!t.

Pro tip: Just because you and your soviet buddies fixate on the US doesn't mean the inverse is true. Look over at your nearest Ivan and ask them who the Vice President of the USA is and see how quick they answer. Pose that same question to an American in regards to your country and 99.9% of Americans won't know...because we dont care about yall at all.

Hell..I dont even know if Soviet Russia has a VP, or Deputy Minister, or whatever "in name only" position below Putin exists.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Not sure what's funnier. Your reaction to Polish Migs or the fact Russia still does not have air superiority in Ukraine.



Just kidding. It’s Russian failure as usual.
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Had the exact same thought. The idiot incompetent Russians can’t even take advantage of Xi trying to do him a solid and c$&@ block the fighter transfer and as usual bungle away any opportunity 😂
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
@Rasputin_Vol hey Moe why is Russia shelling its “sovereign territory” and killing its civilian residents? I seem to remember you were all hot under the collar screeching about civilian shelling in Donbas wouldn’t it be hypocritical to not condemn this also? 🤡
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That's some real diplomacy Russia is sending out. Make's you think the Ukrainians might come up with a new slogan/battle cry "Never forget ... never forgive ... never give up". You'd tend to think that if Ukrainians had any nice feelings for Russians, it ends this winter. Hard to imagine the outrage they must be feeling right now.
 
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