War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Scary stuff...

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By this account, Russia tested the *booster* component of their system. That's a far cry from the actual *terminal interception* component.

Russia has an abysmal missile intercept performance in Ukraine. Their tech is real-world fail. Armata tank anyone?

Stay off the vodka comrade.

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Saw this on reddit..a visual representation of the amount of soldiers Russia has lost..

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FLVOL_79 said:
Saw this on reddit..a visual representation of the amount of soldiers Russia has lost..

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Losing stadiums full of soldiers... a Russian tradition dating back to WWII.

Putin could give a rat's ass. He's doubled down on "winning". If he fails, he dies.

(SPOILER ALERT: he gonna die)

Speaking of dying in tax prison, where's our resident hot mess @JuicyBrucey gone? :cool:

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NorthDallas40 said:
Yep. Just going from memory we have operational right now at least three systems. THAAD, Aegis BMD, and Aegis Shore. Operational… not a demonstrator test. So “golf clap” to Russia I guess.
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I was at the port of Dammam during Desert Storm when a Patriot missile battery about a mile from my guard position lit off after a SCUD. A successful interception and pieces of both rained down on the compound my unit was housed in. It was the scariest but coolest things I’d ever experienced.
 
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MG1968 said:
I was at the port of Dammam during Desert Storm when a Patriot missile battery about a mile from my guard position lit off after a SCUD. A successful interception and pieces of both rained down on the compound my unit was housed in. It was the scariest but coolest things I’d ever experienced.
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I did some more reading about Russia’s missile defense capability after posting last night. They have next to no mobile defense capability. The S-400 has some capability but is again about 30 years after Patriot. For BMD capability they have some very limited fixed installation capability only around Moscow of questionable effectiveness
 
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DonjoVol said:
We need more real journalism like The New Alas.
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Notice, instead of coming up with counter arguments and defending the MIC, they once again resort to ad hominem attacks.

At some point, even people on their side of the aisle will need to start questioning if our MIC spending is actually going to weapons systems or to just pushing up profit margins for vaporware weapons systems.

These same people, mostly conservatives, will tell you all about the govt inefficiencies in spending in social programs. But when it comes to the military, they will try to convince us that the US govt is the paradigm/model of efficiency.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Notice, instead of coming up with counter arguments and defending the MIC, they once again resort to ad hominem attacks.

At some point, even people on their side of the aisle will need to start questioning if our MIC spending is actually going to weapons systems or to just pushing up profit margins for vaporware weapons systems.

These same people, mostly conservatives, will tell you all about the govt inefficiencies in spending in social programs. But when it comes to the military, they will try to convince us that the US govt is the paradigm/model of efficiency.
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Actually I called a Russian Homer a Russian Homer Moe. And that’s accurate. The clown behind The New Atlas is so non partisan he had to change the name of his blog from Land Destroyer in an attempt to deflect from his record of Homerism. As you like to say, those are facts.

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/poli...blogger-tony-cartalucci-reveals-his-identity/
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
These same people, mostly conservatives, will tell you all about the govt inefficiencies in spending in social programs. But when it comes to the military, they will try to convince us that the US govt is the paradigm/model of efficiency.
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No one on this board has ever made that claim and no conservative pundit, politician or apologist has ever made that claim.
 
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MG1968 said:
No one on this board has ever made that claim and no conservative pundit, politician or apologist has ever made that claim.
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I’ve worked in the MIC for 30+ years and I’ll put my hand on a Bible and tell you the DoD procurement system is the model for how to NOT do it and rife with inefficiency. Not corruption just lazy ass inefficiency. And it’s on purpose because the government side doesn’t have the technical chops to run it efficiently and consistently across the board so the law of lowest common denominator says drive it to where they don’t have to think.

I still remember a contract from the late 80’s where the materials exemptions applied to the depot lab test equipment same as the flight equipment. For my specific case PVC jacketed wire was disallowed on the test equipment because when it burned it released hydrogen cyanide (edit: I looked it up its hydrogen chloride gas. Becomes hydrochloric acid when dissolved in water. It was a long time ago so I checked again) gas. Makes perfect sense for airborne electronics. Makes zero sense for lab equipment. I’ve said it before $500 hammers make perfect sense to me. It’s done on purpose.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I’ve worked in the MIC for 30+ years and I’ll put my hand on a Bible and tell you the DoD procurement system is the model for how to NOT do it and rife with inefficiency. Not corruption just lazy ass inefficiency. And it’s on purpose because the government side doesn’t have the technical chops to run it efficiently and consistently across the board so the law of lowest common denominator says drive it to where they don’t have to think.

I still remember a contract from the late 80’s where the materials exemptions applied to the depot lab test equipment same as the flight equipment. For my specific case PVC jacketed wire was disallowed on the test equipment because when it burned it released hydrogen cyanide gas. Makes perfect sense for airborne electronics. Makes zero sense for lab equipment. I’ve said it before $500 hammers make perfect sense to me. It’s done on purpose.
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I've wondered for a while if those $500 hammers were like Craftsman and Stanley, or if they were PCB hammers with a load cell. I could believe either with military procurement.
 
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AM64 said:
I've wondered for a while if those $500 hammers were like Craftsman and Stanley, or if they were PCB hammers with a load cell. I could believe either with military procurement.
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Our PCB hammers were $1500 bucks from what I remember. They would have been $50k on gov contract 😂
 
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