War in Ukraine

[landscapingvol]

Right behind Japan attacking pearl harbor and just ahead of Tennessee hiring Derek dooley.

Pearl Harbor was almost genius by the Japanese but you are right it has to be right up there.

 

[rjd970]

Eastern Europe is just a different breed of folks.

 

[LittleVol]

Update?

 

[landscapingvol]

Still need to mask, could be a nuclear resistant variant.

Lol well played sir!

 

[rjd970]

OK. We need to take out Belarus soon. Theyre starting to worry me.

“We” don’t need to do ‘ish. Let this play out without getting involved.

 

[0nelilreb]

I'm trying to not be terrified of this possibility. It's not working.

Take it for what it’s worth but Norfolk is calm and has been for a couple of days now , no extra Hawkeye flyovers . That’s usually an indicator of the threat level that’s being perceived at the moment .

 

[SuzyVol]

Prominent Putin propagandist rages on live TV about Losing his Italian villa - which is next to George Clooney's - because of sanctions over Russia's invasion of Ukraine

• Vladimir Soloviev, 58, griped about losing access to two multimillion-dollar estates he owns in Lake Como due to sanctions that followed Russian invasion

As the death toll mounts in Ukraine - where at least three children have died since Vladimir Putin ordered the country invaded - a tone-deaf Russian TV host is fuming about how the conflict has cost him access to his Italian luxury villas.

Proponent pro-Putin television personality Vladimir Soloviev publicly lamented Friday losing access to his multimillion-dollar vacation homes due to Italian-imposed sanctions spurred by Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

'Is this the Iron Curtain?' Soloviev opined on the set of his late-night program. 'I was told that Europe is a citadel of rights, that everything is permitted, that’s what they said.'

Prominent Putin propagandist rages on live TV about losing Italian villas because of sanctions | Daily Mail Online

Maybe someone can let Joy Behar know a rental just became available.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Pearl Harbor was almost genius by the Japanese but you are right it has to be right up there.

They say there's a thin line between genius and madness.

 

[Godfatha]

When this is all said and done, where will Putin's decision to invade Ukraine rank in the pantheon of historical blunders?

1. Hitler's invasion of the USSR too late in campaigning season
2. Napoleon's invasion of Russia
3. Electing Joe Biden
4. Putin's invasion of the Ukraine
5. Stopping production of the pipeline, forcing us to be more reliant (giving money to) on Russia for energy
6. Leaving billions of dollars worth of equipment in Afghanistan to be acquired by extremists
7. The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor

 

[rjd970]

At the end of the day I feel like Belarus picked the wrong side. You hate to see it.

 

[85SugarVol]

Holy hell those jets the EU promised are being delivered tonight.

Does Ukraine have the pilots?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

“We” don’t need to do ‘ish. Let this play out without getting involved.

Its getting to the point where I dont think thats going to be possible.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So, anyone want another scary thought? Something happens to Biden in the next few days/weeks and Harris has to try and contain this thing.

 

[DC_Vol]

I want to put this out there to the group here. I think a lot of you are being too hard on Ras. Many of the points he is making are very valid. In fact, you’d hear many of them echoed by Russian citizens and even some living in present day Ukraine. You’d also hear about some atrocities committed by the Ukrainians against their own Russian speaking citizens.

Our sphere of influence in that part of the world is seen as menacing and threatening to the long term survival of Russia. We might feel the same way if Mexico and Canada both fell under the influence of Russia.

It in no way validates their invasion of Ukraine. What has already gone down has been horrible and may make Putin’s leadership untenable going forward. Especially with the current nuclear threats. It may not change a thing in how this current threat plays out, but an understanding of how we got here might mitigate further conflict in the future.

All I really want to point out is what Ras has to say is valid discussion material and shouldn’t necessarily be interpreted as Rad being a Russian sympathizer.

For the record, I still say Vlad is a bad hombre and he needs to be dealt with. Preferably by the Europeans. The man is a danger to humanity.

 

[TheDirector]

So they actually reported that 59% of Americans are insane? I bet 98% of that 59% would list Fox as one of their primary news sources.

Nope the poll was done by Harvard. If anything, Harvard would skew to the left. Also found that 62% of Americans say this wouldn't have happened if Trump was President. Sorry for the inconvenient truth.

 

[Godfatha]

At the end of the day I feel like Belarus picked the wrong side. You hate to see it.

Got to give it to Borat's country, Kazakhstan had enough sense to say nope, not getting involved.

 

[Grand Vol]

At the end of the day I feel like Belarus picked the wrong side. You hate to see it.

They've always tended to side with Russia.

 

[AshG]

Nope the poll was done by Harvard. If anything, Harvard would skew to the left. Also found that 62% of Americans say this wouldn't have happened if Trump was President. Sorry for the inconvenient truth.

Which poll?

 

[landscapingvol]

I want to put this out there to the group here. I think a lot of you are being too hard on Ras. Many of the points he is making are very valid. In fact, you’d hear many of them echoed by Russian citizens and even some living in present day Ukraine. You’d also hear about some atrocities committed by the Ukrainians against their own Russian speaking citizens.

Our sphere of influence in that part of the world is seen as menacing and threatening to the long term survival of Russia. We might feel the same way if Mexico and Canada both fell under the influence of Russia.

It in no way validates their invasion of Ukraine. What has already gone down has been horrible and may make Putin’s leadership untenable going forward. Especially with the current nuclear threats. It may not change a thing in how this current threat plays out, but an understanding of how we got here might mitigate further conflict in the future.

All I really want to point out is what Ras has to say is valid discussion material and shouldn’t necessarily be interpreted as Rad being a Russian sympathizer.

For the record, I still say Vlad is a bad hombre and he needs to be dealt with. Preferably by the Europeans. The man is a danger to humanity.

Of course he has some fair points, the US has meddled in foreign affairs for decades but I do believe the US has largely been a force for good

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It doesn't matter what lead up to this moment in time. The man is threatening nuclear war without a single mention of military action on russian soil. If Russia loves itself his throat will be slit within the month.

It matters tremendously. If the desire right now is to slit Putin's neck, then should we allow these neocons and warmongers over here to go free? As far as I'm concerned, there a plenty more people that should be facing execution if this is the case...

 

[landscapingvol]

They've always tended to side with Russia.

Belarus doesn’t really many other options due to the path their government has chosen

 

[AshG]

Of course he has some fair points, the US has meddled in foreign affairs for decades but I do believe the US has largely been a force for good

We see our meddling as good and necessary. I'm not sure those whose affairs we inject ourselves into would always agree. But I do agree with you, we have desired to do good where we have gone.

 

[NorthDallas40]

So, anyone want another scary thought? Something happens to Biden in the next few days/weeks and Harris has to try and contain this thing.

We are so screwed. The whole world is.

 

[Velo Vol]

All I really want to point out is what Ras has to say is valid discussion material and shouldn’t necessarily be interpreted as Rad being a Russian sympathizer.

It's a legitimate discussion, but if all Ras does is repeat Russian talking points, and doesn't criticize the Russians for the same things he complains about in the American government, he's going to get called out for it.

 

[volfanhill]

It's a legitimate discussion, but if all Ras does is repeat Russian talking points, and doesn't criticize the Russians for the same things he complains about in the American government, he's going to get called out for it.

100% why he's called to the carpet