War in Ukraine

[McDad]

Luther - this betrays some willful ignorance on your part. Setting aside God, who makes those rules of war? the winners of the past wars. The world court is only an apparatus of the winners of that war. Had the Axis won, such a thing would still exist but with their principles and for their benefit.

You can be sure that if China (or another nation or group of them) is able to grow strong enough to overthrow America's dominance, that your precious "world court" will be whatever they say it is. Consider the WHO now.

Moral good, if unmoored to religion, is 100% malleable to the dominant culture of the times. We are all a product of the past dominance of Greek, Roman and British culture.

You are in charge of you. You know the time you have available today.

I am offering a friendly caution...you are on the precipice of a spiraling pit of wasted time and effort.

 

[McDad]

I’m basically saying the same thing you are. Killing people and breaking things isn’t our problem. Getting the hell out and leaving whatever **** hole we just destroyed… again… in some serviceable fashion is our problem.

Don't forget raping children. All great war leaders raped children as part of their strategy.

 

[Gandalf]

victory. The quicker and more efficient, the better.

Such a line of thought gave us Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nightmarish horrors of death that probably nonetheless saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans and Japanese. By comparison, how many Vietnamese civilians died in the war the USA "lost".

 

[Gandalf]

You are in charge of you. You know the time you have available today.

I am offering a friendly caution...you are on the precipice of a spiraling pit of wasted time and effort.

Wise words.

 

[DynaLo]

The consideration will always be, once the war is over, what will be our position and standing.
Russia will win this war with Ukraine but will be the loser in standing and position. So they didn't really win at all.

Standing and position according to who? The West who has ostracized and sanctioned them for years or Russia’s new BFF alliance with China, who by the way makes virtually all the goods sold in the US and will gladly sell those same goods to their new buddy and will also gladly buy what Russia has to sell.

 

[luthervol]

Luther - this betrays some willful ignorance on your part. Setting aside God, who makes those rules of war? the winners of the past wars. The world court is only an apparatus of the winners of that war. Had the Axis won, such a thing would still exist but with their principles and for their benefit.

You can be sure that if China (or another nation or group of them) is able to grow strong enough to overthrow America's dominance, that your precious "world court" will be whatever they say it is. Consider the WHO now.

Moral good, if unmoored to religion, is 100% malleable to the dominant culture of the times. We are all a product of the past dominance of Greek, Roman and British culture.

Moral good (which religion is no more than a reflection of) has always rightfully been malleable, and will continue to be so.
Of course we are a product of the past just as the future will be a product of the present.

 

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[MontyPython]

Good read. Behind a paywall (just open in incognito mode)...

Putin doesn’t fear a coup by oligarchs. But he should fear his fellow spies.

 

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[volbound1700]

Can we please give that moron a side hobby out of the spot light to keep her busy until her idiot ass is thrown out of office?

I love it. It shows what a joke the Democrat movement is. It would be even more funny if she ends up becoming President.

 

[DynaLo]

The world court.
And yes, there are rules of war, thus the term "war crimes".
Of course there is morality between nation states.
God?? lol....
"God", or more accurately the bastardization of "god", has actually been at the root of many of those wars.

Who exactly is going to physically invade Russia, shackle Putin and drag him into the world court for his war crimes? Convict him in abstentia and do what, issue more you’ve been a very bad boy Vlad sanctions and strong statements. Like he so obviously gives a crap about more sanctions and the West’s opinions of him.

 

[volbound1700]

It looks like Japan wants to re-establish the Japanese Co-Prosperity Sphere:

 

[NorthDallas40]

Couldn’t they at least be more original in their claim FFS? I mean c’mon bats is so 2020

 

[Weezy]

IMO, there's a decent chance of truth to this. It's not why Russia is invading. But we need to get out of the international lab business. Everything we fund or support should be in our borders, in the open. We lose credibility, for good reason, doing this crap.

 

[Pacer92]

IMO, there's a decent chance of truth to this. It's not why Russia is invading. But we need to get out of the international lab business. Everything we fund or support should be in our borders, in the open. We lose credibility, for good reason, doing this crap.

Totally agree..

 

[Hunerwadel]

Moral good (which religion is no more than a reflection of) has always rightfully been malleable, and will continue to be so.
Of course we are a product of the past just as the future will be a product of the present.

 

[landscapingvol]

That is beyond absurd as an excuse, Russia has developed far more biological weapons than we ever dreamed of. That is Ras level lunacy, there are biological labs across the globe funded by dozens of countries including Russia and China.

 

[LouderVol]

Eh you’re arguing semantics. When you put our military in contact with a combatant we will destroy them. We’re very good at that. All the fluff surrounding the “simple” part is what you’re capitalizing on

Killing/destroying does not equal a war.

We arent willing to fight a dirty war, most of the wars end up that way because the people we fight dont mind fighting dirty wars. When their are lines that we wont cross, but our enemy will, you cant say we are good at war.

 

[vol66]

We are being lead to believe that the weapons given to them Ukrainian are lethal and doing significant damage to the Russians. That is the narrative being pumped out there since this all began.

No doubt, without them, we’d be having a different discussion. I was just wondering, what’s the difference between giving them stingers and planes.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Wars used to be fought for territory. Now we fight, kick their ass, then spend trillions building back what we destroyed, and turn it right back to the ones we were waring with in the first place.

 

[LouderVol]

The world court.
And yes, there are rules of war, thus the term "war crimes".
Of course there is morality between nation states.
God?? lol....
"God", or more accurately the bastardization of "god", has actually been at the root of many of those wars.

When was the last American sentenced for war crimes?

The losers are the war criminals, never the winners.

 

[McDad]

Remember when the "rules of war" were you stand shoulder to shoulder across an open field to be an easy target but you don't shoot officers? Was that a "good" rule? Was it noble? Had the revolutionary fighters adhered to that rule, we might still be a British colony.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Killing/destroying does not equal a war.

We arent willing to fight a dirty war, most of the wars end up that way because the people we fight dont mind fighting dirty wars. When their are lines that we wont cross, but our enemy will, you cant say we are good at war.

Oh I’ll stand by my comments as posted as offer General George Patton as a reference.

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.

We’re very good at executing the main purpose of war, making the other bastard die for his country, we completely suck at administering the overall picture.

 

[Pacer92]

That is beyond absurd as an excuse, Russia has developed far more biological weapons than we ever dreamed of. That is Ras level lunacy, there are biological labs across the globe funded by dozens of countries including Russia and China.

Is your claim based in fact? And does it excuse our hypocrisy of bombing countries back to the Stone Age for alleged biological weapons?