War in Ukraine

#18,703
#18,703
KB5252 said:
If Putin goes further than whipping them militarily that would likely be the line. The west must be careful.... But so does Putin. He's already isolated, of he goes too far with punishment NATO may go into the other areas he wants off limits. If that happens he knows he's done, he's already treading.
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He's not isolated. Russia still has plenty of allies. Don't listen to everything the media tells you.
 
#18,704
#18,704
AM64 said:
It would actually be pretty fair. Big country invades smaller country and loses. Smaller country takes some extra land as penalty for being invaded. Morals of the story: be a good neighbor, and don't start something you can't finish.
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How are they losing when they have almost isolated Ukraine from the Black Sea?
 
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#18,707
tvolsfan said:
By plenty of allies, you mean a reluctant China and the handful of third world dictatorships they’re propping up?
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They are allies with Pakistan and India which the U.S. is as well. Russia has allies in Africa and the Middle East. You guys keep saying they will be isolated but in reality they will be fine.

We aren't going to do anything to China so you guys and gals can keep dreaming.
 
#18,710
#18,710
DonjoVol said:
They are allies with Pakistan and India which the U.S. is as well. Russia has allies in Africa and the Middle East. You guys keep saying they will be isolated but in reality they will be fine.

We aren't going to do anything to China so you guys and gals can keep dreaming.
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I don’t think you realize how silly your post is.

Russia was almost completely dependent on the European leaders being too scared to impose meaningful sanctions.
 
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#18,713
DonjoVol said:
He's not isolated. Russia still has plenty of allies. Don't listen to everything the media tells you.
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India, China, Iran, South Africa. The rest of the world has spoken. That's pretty isolated. The question is will it be enough?
 
#18,718
#18,718
DonjoVol said:
They are allies with Pakistan and India which the U.S. is as well. Russia has allies in Africa and the Middle East. You guys keep saying they will be isolated but in reality they will be fine.

We aren't going to do anything to China so you guys and gals can keep dreaming.
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This whole thing is happening because Putin cannot afford to let Ukraine slip from his sphere. As it stood before the invasion they were heavily dependent on imported energy. But they're sitting on more natural gas than anyone in Europe but Norway. Once that gets tapped, they're energy independent. Not buying energy from Russia and exporting too to boot. Thats a painful gash in Russia's economy. The same economy Putin's done a woeful job at diversifying.

This is all the same old game thats been going on for ages but you go on believing the fantasies of a strong powerful Russia doing God's work like you're being fed
 
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DonjoVol said:
They are allies with Pakistan and India which the U.S. is as well. Russia has allies in Africa and the Middle East. You guys keep saying they will be isolated but in reality they will be fine.

We aren't going to do anything to China so you guys and gals can keep dreaming.
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I could see China maybe wanting out of backing Russia.
 
#18,721
#18,721
apevol said:
This whole thing is happening because Putin cannot afford to let Ukraine slip from his sphere. As it stood before the invasion they were heavily dependent on imported energy. But they're sitting on more natural gas than anyone in Europe but Norway. Once that gets tapped, they're energy independent. Not buying energy from Russia and exporting too to boot. Thats a painful gash in Russia's economy. The same economy Putin's done a woeful job at diversifying.

This is all the same old game thats been going on for ages but you go on believing the fantasies of a strong powerful Russia doing God's work like you're being fed
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Where in the world do you get that I believe Russia is doing God's work? Some of you guys really lose your minds on here.
 
#18,724
#18,724
Well. I've got a lot to do today. But I was watching Pulp Fiction recently. Mia Wallace made a good point when you she told Vincent Vega "when you guys get together you're worse than a sewing circle".
 
#18,725
#18,725
volgr said:
Amusing to continously see only one side of the story being told by most. Small Russian loses are magnified while large Ukrainian losses arent mentioned. At this rate of success Ukraine may take lands in western Russia.
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If you think the losses Russia is taking right now are “small” then you don’t understand modern combat. If this were WW1 or WW2 with armies possessing millions of troops and hundreds of divisions with armored units pumped out by the thousands, yeah this would be a drop in the bucket. It isn’t.
 
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