Warlick deserves more time to shape Lady Vols

[armchair]

Warlick's problem has nothing to do with time. Kind of a stupid column.

 

[teacherdean]

What Holly done that makes her deserve more time to shape the Lady Vols? She has been here for 4 years, has recruited badly, no clue as to how to play offense, is constantly out coached, and is in denial. Major D1 schools do not have on the job training programs that last 4 years plus. If this is a men's team with 7 five stars, and no recruits for 2016, they would be so out of a job even if the school had to pay the coach 7 million to leave. Women programs should be treated the same way that men's program are treated. Holly has had her chance and she simply is far behind where she should be. Tennessee's women's BB program is to women's college basketball what Kentucky is to men's college basketball. Can you imagine what would happen to a Kentucky BB coach if he failed to make the final 4 in four years, especially with the 3rd best talent we have? Let's be real Holly is turning the program a disaster.

 

[Toujours Pret]

I know Holly is a nice person but this team has been playing since October. I think that is enough time to get a team ready to play basketball at a decent level.

Ever notice that people are only quantified as "nice people" when they suck at their job?

 

[teacherdean]

Wiedmer: Warlick deserves more time to shape Lady Vols | Times Free Press

Boo! I think we see the shape, and it is not good.

1) Unconvincing motivator and leader.
2) Unprepared team with a preseason ranking of #4.
3) A signing class of 0.

Another year or two and we will be rock bottom.

I guess that we even see these articles means that it is on more people's minds than just this board.

Stem the bleeding. Do it after the season. Every year we wait will just make it that much harder to get back up.

Widemer is a certified idiot and possibly Holly's first cousin.

 

[chuck0303]

I have to agree with the OP on this topic. Look at the team when Holdsclaw was here in 1996-97 I believe. That team lost 10 regular season games but won the national championship. Now, I'm not saying this team is going to do that because they're certainly not looking that way.

We certainly have enough talent to accomplish that though. We wasn't picked #4 in the pre-season for nothing. That 96-97 team also had Pat Summit as their head coach & not Holly Warlick although Warlick was a part of that coaching team.

This is certainly the worst record wise that Holly has placed on that floor in Knoxville but it's not the least talented either. It's also not the most talented but we do have plenty enough solid recruits with the addition of DeShields coming to Knoxville to do much better than we are right now.

I just think we have bad team chemistry or something that's messing up things. Maybe it's the offense Holly is using or maybe it's not. Sometimes we play solid defense & sometimes we don't. I understand why people are frustrated including me. Heck, just a few days ago I was all for Holly being fired but I think she deserves longer.

However, unless we start getting more of the top recruits then we're not going very far anyhow. Holly is not Pat Summit. She can't take 2 & 3 star recruits & make them play like 4-5 star recruits. We must get some 4-5 star recruits. Right now, for 2016 we don't have a single 4-5 star recruit on the radar: 2016 HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings - espnW 100 - ESPN

If it wasn't for Cooper & Jackson in the 2015 class we wouldn't have signed any 4-5 star recruits last year.

We have a girl out of Blackman High School(Crystal Dangerfield) right now that has already declared for UConn. She's the #3 recruit in the country. Chassity Carter out of Dickson County High School in Tennessee has already declared for Vandy & she's the #44 recruit.

The #83rd recruit(Rodrea Echols) out of Overton High School in Nashville has declared for Oklahoma State. We can't allow top state recruits to get away from us. That's starting to happen way too much since Pat left.

We must stop & ask how can that be for a UT Lady Vols program with such tradition? I don't know but this wouldn't even be a discussion with Pat at the helm. We would be deciding on which ones that we wanted instead of trying to find recruits to sign.

How much does these decisions from recruits have to do with Holly Warlick at the controls? Only the recruits with honesty can tell us that. There's a cause somewhere. Maybe it's a combination of things but we have to put a stop to not being able to get these top recruits especially the ones from the great state of Tennessee.

Just think about what I just stated from above about the 2016 recruiting. We have lost all 3 top rated Tennessee recruits to another school. They all 3 are 4-5 star recruits. You can't replace talent especially when you don't have Pat Summit coaching anymore.

Save the term paper--Why would any recruit want to play for Holly? she has all this talent and doesn't know what to do with it; little, if any, team discipline; and the team is on the fast-track to the cellar. Come play for me because I don't know what the _ell I'm doing; we can learn together since I haven't learned anything for the past 30 years.

 

[tonybologna]

Save the term paper--Why would any recruit want to play for Holly? she has all this talent and doesn't know what to do with it; little, if any, team discipline; and the team is on the fast-track to the cellar. Come play for me because I don't know what the _ell I'm doing; we can learn together since I haven't learned anything for the past 30 years.

I don't think that's quite fair for Holly. She was born & lives in Knoxville. She's played college ball for her only mentor. She lives & breathes Lady Vols basketball.

Is she qualified to continue leading the program? I'd say heck yes. Now, things have certainly not gone as planned this season. Let me ask you a simple question? Who did she learn all of her coaching skills from? You know the answer to that question. I don't even have to provide it.

It's obvious she nor any other coach coming in here can coach ike Pat so what are we to do? Holly is a diehard Lady Vol. Could we bring in someone like Nicky McCray or some other former player? Sure, but there's nobody under Pat's tutelage that has more coaching experience than Holly.

I don't want a coach coming in here from another school like Notre Dame or Duke. I prefer someone with knowledge of the Lady Vol tradition. Those aren't easy to find. I want someone with ties to this program. Even Tyler Summit would be a better choice than someone on the outside of this program.

However, I say give Holly a couple more years. I do agree with you though on the recruiting thing. We don't have any top recruits in site. They have all signed elsewhere. Either they don't think Holly can coach or since Pat left they are going to other schools period.

 

[Batman33]

Save the term paper--Why would any recruit want to play for Holly? she has all this talent and doesn't know what to do with it; little, if any, team discipline; and the team is on the fast-track to the cellar. Come play for me because I don't know what the _ell I'm doing; we can learn together since I haven't learned anything for the past 30 years.

Exactly

 

[Advol]

Wiedmer: Warlick deserves more time to shape Lady Vols | Times Free Press

Boo! I think we see the shape, and it is not good.

1) Unconvincing motivator and leader.
2) Unprepared team with a preseason ranking of #4.
3) A signing class of 0.

Another year or two and we will be rock bottom.

I guess that we even see these articles means that it is on more people's minds than just this board.

Stem the bleeding. Do it after the season. Every year we wait will just make it that much harder to get back up.

The definition of Insanity!!!!!! :hi:

 

[hardyemt_p]

Lol

 

[arkyvol]

Whoa! Holly needs more time? Guess we should rethink Dooley and Todd Raliegh.

 

[terrypedigo]

The woman cant coach but sense Pat picked Her i guess we give her 10 more years to show the country she cant coach, i guess that is what we will do by then The Lady Vols will be below the Men, do they have a NIT in Women Basketball.

 

[TVOL71]

I suspect if they win half of the remaining games, which should get them in the tournament, she will be back next year, but they would have to perform better next year, or she will be gone.

 

[Buddr]

Shape them? Am I missing something here? I think Pat had the team in shape and then when Warlick took over they got out of shape and seem to have been going downhill ever since.

 

[Bellevue vol]

I don't think that's quite fair for Holly. She was born & lives in Knoxville. She's played college ball for her only mentor. She lives & breathes Lady Vols basketball.

Is she qualified to continue leading the program? I'd say heck yes. Now, things have certainly not gone as planned this season. Let me ask you a simple question? Who did she learn all of her coaching skills from? You know the answer to that question. I don't even have to provide it.

It's obvious she nor any other coach coming in here can coach ike Pat so what are we to do? Holly is a diehard Lady Vol. Could we bring in someone like Nicky McCray or some other former player? Sure, but there's nobody under Pat's tutelage that has more coaching experience than Holly.

I don't want a coach coming in here from another school like Notre Dame or Duke. I prefer someone with knowledge of the Lady Vol tradition. Those aren't easy to find. I want someone with ties to this program. Even Tyler Summit would be a better choice than someone on the outside of this program.

However, I say give Holly a couple more years. I do agree with you though on the recruiting thing. We don't have any top recruits in site. They have all signed elsewhere. Either they don't think Holly can coach or since Pat left they are going to other schools period.

I understand the desire to have a coach who intimately knows the Lady Vol traditions. But did Geno know the uconn traditions, did McGraw know the ND traditions. Why not try to get a coach that will build their own legacy. Saban is not making people forget Bryant. No one will make us forget Pat.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Hmm, let me see:

McDonald's All Americans:
1. Mercedes Russell
2. Jaime Nared
3. Diamond Deshields
4. Alexa Mddleton
5 Kourtney Dunbar
6. Tea Cooper
7. Bashara Graves
8. Jordan Reynolds
9. Nia Moore

I would almost bet the farm, that if Auriema (sp??) or McGraw, staley, etc., had that talent they would have no more than 2 losses............

Why is everybody freaking out over the recruiting this cycle? Eight of those nine McDonald's AAs return next year and seven
return the following year. Maybe the top recruits don't care to be behind that deep of a roster.

 

[Tenacguy50]

No she doesn't deserve more time. I for one am tired of seeing her scratch her head, pick her nose, stomp her feet, pat the players behind, whistle with 2 fingers, cross her arms, wear pant suits constantly, & say in the post game PC "we've turned the corner and we'll get it fixed". Holly (Dooley) Warlick has got to go at season's end.

 

[Tenacguy50]

I understand the desire to have a coach who intimately knows the Lady Vol traditions. But did Geno know the uconn traditions, did McGraw know the ND traditions. Why not try to get a coach that will build their own legacy. Saban is not making people forget Bryant. No one will make us forget Pat.

k: :hi:

 

[DonDiego]

I don't think that's quite fair for Holly. She was born & lives in Knoxville. She's played college ball for her only mentor. She lives & breathes Lady Vols basketball.

Is she qualified to continue leading the program? I'd say heck yes. Now, things have certainly not gone as planned this season. Let me ask you a simple question? Who did she learn all of her coaching skills from? You know the answer to that question. I don't even have to provide it.

It's obvious she nor any other coach coming in here can coach ike Pat so what are we to do? Holly is a diehard Lady Vol. Could we bring in someone like Nicky McCray or some other former player? Sure, but there's nobody under Pat's tutelage that has more coaching experience than Holly.

I don't want a coach coming in here from another school like Notre Dame or Duke. I prefer someone with knowledge of the Lady Vol tradition. Those aren't easy to find. I want someone with ties to this program. Even Tyler Summit would be a better choice than someone on the outside of this program.

However, I say give Holly a couple more years. I do agree with you though on the recruiting thing. We don't have any top recruits in site. They have all signed elsewhere. Either they don't think Holly can coach or since Pat left they are going to other schools period.

I think a couple more years is a little much, but I do think we ought to take another look at the program and where it is going closer to the end of the year. Let's say she turns it around and wins the SEC Tourney--wanna get rid of her then?

Is DeSheilds a negative source? Anybody know any back story to that? Something seems a little weird there.

 

[indian rick]

Tearing down is not a shape

 

[WVU05UT09]

I don't think that's quite fair for Holly. She was born & lives in Knoxville. She's played college ball for her only mentor. She lives & breathes Lady Vols basketball.

Is she qualified to continue leading the program? I'd say heck yes. Now, things have certainly not gone as planned this season. Let me ask you a simple question? Who did she learn all of her coaching skills from? You know the answer to that question. I don't even have to provide it.

It's obvious she nor any other coach coming in here can coach ike Pat so what are we to do? Holly is a diehard Lady Vol. Could we bring in someone like Nicky McCray or some other former player? Sure, but there's nobody under Pat's tutelage that has more coaching experience than Holly.

I don't want a coach coming in here from another school like Notre Dame or Duke. I prefer someone with knowledge of the Lady Vol tradition. Those aren't easy to find. I want someone with ties to this program. Even Tyler Summit would be a better choice than someone on the outside of this program.

However, I say give Holly a couple more years. I do agree with you though on the recruiting thing. We don't have any top recruits in site. They have all signed elsewhere. Either they don't think Holly can coach or since Pat left they are going to other schools period.

Ah yes, I can't imagine why we would hire someone with Notre Dame connections. The only other program over the last five to six years to challenge UConn for national supremacy. Also not coincidentally the only other team nationally that runs a fluid offense where the players are empowered and taught to read the defense and react accordingly. Holy sh*t I can't imagine why we would want any part of that when we can play 90s style chuck the ball close to the rim and hope someone cleans it up style of basketball. :good!::blink:

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

No she doesn't deserve more time. I for one am tired of seeing her scratch her head, pick her nose, stomp her feet, pat the players behind, whistle with 2 fingers, cross her arms, wear pant suits constantly, & say in the post game PC "we've turned the corner and we'll get it fixed". Holly (Dooley) Warlick has got to go at season's end.

Pat did a lot of those.

 

[TNnative]

The fact that there are articles like this being written suggests it's not just the fans who are growing impatient. She's clearly on the hot seat - and that's a good thing!

No, it isn't. Having a coach who is one of your own being let go should never be called a good thing.


Inevitable? Maybe. Good? Never.

 

[TNnative]

Pat did a lot of those.

Yeah, but when Pat did it, the players responded.

 

[crparker21]

She's shaped a top 2 national program into a middle of the pack SEC program. Guess a few more seasons could get us to the bottom, so yes she likely needs more time.

I agree Holly is a terrible coach and needs to go, but let's tell the truth we were not a top 2 program when she took over. We hadn't been to the final four since 2007-2008. Historically we were definitely at the top but not when she took over. We need a better motivator and teacher. Pat had the respect of these young ladies and demanded they get better. I just don't see that with Holly.

 

[gule]

imho, the game that both Pat & Holly teaches is the game as it was played prior to a shot clock, with a hands on defense allowed. They haven't adjusted yet and never will to the new rules. GENO, MUFFET, KIM all have.