Was Bruce set up/ snitched out?

#27
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DaDuRkEr said:
I didn't sense any bias from the crew last night. I thought they did nothing more than state the facts and in the end, say that no one knows what the NCAA will do. Some people act as if the national pundits are petitioning the NCAA to exile Bruce from college basketball altogether. Only one person has said anything that really got under my skin, and that was Len saying the NCAA should suspend him 2 years. That is ridic
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Over and over and over again and again and again, etc..
 
#28
#28
The press released a screen cap of the sting.

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#29
#29
Well maybe if he didn't lie then on one would have been able to snitch on him. Considering he is a snitch himself he don't have alot of room to talk.
 
#30
#30
No doubt, hit it right on the head OP. That's is all the talk here as well as Thad Matta forced it out of Aaron Craft after we beat them last year in the Sweet 16
 
#32
#32
PandamoniumReigns said:
The Thad is the culprit
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Maybe the culprit is Mr. Craft. Does anyone other than me think it's a lot of coincidences that the Crafts went to the cook out even after it had been explained to them it was against the rules, that the Crafts made sure they had a pic to prove they had been there, and then shortly after all this Craft gets an offer from the one school he had dreamed of playing at his whole life? That sounds to me like it could have been Mr. Craft going to Matta with the pic, but wanting a scholly in return.
 
#33
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Ohiovol09 said:
No doubt, hit it right on the head OP. That's is all the talk here as well as Thad Matta forced it out of Aaron Craft after we beat them last year in the Sweet 16
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That can't be because the investigation was started way before the Vols took out OSU last March.
 
#34
#34
Hello?? Pearl committed the violations on "recruiting prospects", and fully understood majority of those "prospects" he hosted would go to other schools. Now you tell me who is stupid in this incident.

As far as snitching goes, if Pearl attempted to gain recruiting advantage by committing stupid violation that could be so easily exposed by other schools, then what does Pearl expect other schools to do, let him keep doing his shady recruiting?
 
#36
#36
Does it matter if he was ratted out? Really?

Remember how the Bammers whined, moaned, cried, and pointed fingers at Fulmer b/c of their penalties? We just shook our heads and said "don't cheat and you don't have a problem crybabies". All that was utterly found to be foolishness if you read the judge handling the case, who spoke out a month or so ago.

Nevertheless, do we want to look like whiners or man up and accept responsibility? That is the question.
 
#37
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exotic_vols said:
Hello?? Pearl committed the violations on "recruiting prospects", and fully understood majority of those "prospects" he hosted would go to other schools. Now you tell me who is stupid in this incident.

As far as snitching goes, if Pearl attempted to gain recruiting advantage by committing stupid violation that could be so easily exposed by other schools, then what does Pearl expect other schools to do, let him keep doing his shady recruiting?
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#38
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exotic_vols said:
Hello?? Pearl committed the violations on "recruiting prospects", and fully understood majority of those "prospects" he hosted would go to other schools. Now you tell me who is stupid in this incident.

As far as snitching goes, if Pearl attempted to gain recruiting advantage by committing stupid violation that could be so easily exposed by other schools, then what does Pearl expect other schools to do, let him keep doing his shady recruiting?
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So much animosity against your own coach. While I'm not trying to excuse what Bruce did and I think he should have done different, why does it seem to raise the ire of folks who profess to be Vol fans when someone puts forth a theory that doesn't flow from the idea that Bruce Pearl is some Black Bart running around disregarding the rules willy nilly and thumbing his nose at the NCAA? That theory is no more valid than the theory that Bruce was duped by Mr. Craft who may have been fishing for a scholly for his son at OSU. That Bruce denied knowing about the pic at the first interview trying to protect the eligibility of the players involved. When Bruce called Mr. Craft to verify their agreement to keep the Craft's rule breaking visit to Bruce's house on the QT, Bruce realized Mr. Craft was the one who ratted him out and then knew he had to come clean. None of us have all the details, one theory is as valid as another in light of the info available to form such theories. It seems to me that there are some who want the Black Bart theory to be true and I think that group includes many in the media, including Jimmy Dykes.

I see what Dykes did last night as being disingenuous and hypocritical. He gets his rear end all up in the air over Bruce denying he knew about the pic to an investigator while I'm sure JD knows of other coaches who have bald faced lied to the infractions committee and he has never mentioned it. Some of the UT fans seem to be naive about what goes on in recruiting. There is about as much negative recruiting as there is positive. Some of those screaming the loudest about Pearl are the worst perpetrators of rule breaking. Dykes is nothing more than a blow hard KY homer who has stated he thinks the fact that Kanter received thousands of dollars to play in Europe should not disallow him to play for KY as an amateur. I think the whole affair with Pearl is a witch hunt. I have my own ideas as to why and if I'm correct it isn't a nice thing.

Agree or disagree with my theory, but on the facts as they are now known it's as valid as any other.
 
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#39
#39
So much animosity against your own coach
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No I love him, but that doesn't excuse him from being stupid on this particular incident.

the idea that Bruce Pearl is some Black Bart running around disregarding the rules willy nilly and thumbing his nose at the NCAA? That theory is no more valid than the theory that Bruce was duped by Mr. Craft who may have been fishing for a scholly for his son at OSU.
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You can "speculate" whatever you want, but the "fact" is, Pearl violated the rule, then lied about violating the rule, and got punished, and more punishment may be coming.

That Bruce denied knowing about the pic at the first interview trying to protect the eligibility of the players involved.
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According to your speculation, isn't that the ultimate irony that the person Pearl wanted to protect was the one actually ratted him out?

When Bruce called Mr. Craft to verify their agreement to keep the Craft's rule breaking visit to Bruce's house on the QT, Bruce realized Mr. Craft was the one who ratted him out and then knew he had to come clean. None of us have all the details,
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I don't know what agreement or QT you are referring to, but are you really blaming Craft for Pearl being punished? You need to understand the relationship between cause and effect.

Some of the UT fans seem to be naive about what goes on in recruiting. There is about as much negative recruiting as there is positive. Some of those screaming the loudest about Pearl are the worst perpetrators of rule breaking.
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First of all, you speculate again with no proof. Speculations = bulletin board material, facts = 8 SEC games suspension, need I say more?

Secondly, I am not naive enough to believe other major programs out there are more clean than my alma mater's. However, whoever is the most stupid would put himself at the position that can be easily exposed, and hence get caught. (see hostess incident too)
 
#41
#41
Most all coaches who lose in the tournament try to get the coach that beat them into trouble with the NCAA-----Great theory, just doesn't make any sense.
 
#42
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BasketvolsFan said:
Most all coaches who lose in the tournament try to get the coach that beat them into trouble with the NCAA-----Great theory, just doesn't make any sense.
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It's amazing to me how many people took this idiotic MHF theory and ran with it.
 
#45
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KingtUT said:
Either way , doesnt make the situation better. Im sick of commentators running us in the ground, it must have a horrible effect on recruiting. Im beginning to think losing BP might end up being our best option. If he cant recruit, he cant continue to win like he has in the past. As much as I like BP, and as far as he's taken our program, I'm afraid the NCAA is going to make sure he isnt successful anytime in the near future. He is not bigger than the program and if firing him somehow saves our program from probation, goodbye BP. I have to believe the NCAA will come down harder on us for keeping him.
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Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. This is why he must be fired - for the long term success of the program. Adonis Thomas, in his commitment press conference, said that the uncertainty was a factor in his decision. Every coach BP is recruiting against is using this against UTK. On top of the fact, everyone now knows BP lacks integrity and can't be trusted.
 
#46
#46
There's no doubt in my mind that "lying in wait" for coaches who turn others in for violations is as valid as the Hatfields holding a grudge against the McCoys. They made the catch on a minor violation and they and their friends with influence are now jacking the smear campaign up to make it appear worse.
 
#47
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bUTrosbUTrosVOLie said:
There's no doubt in my mind that "lying in wait" for coaches who turn others in for violations is as valid as the Hatfields holding a grudge against the McCoys. They made the catch on a minor violation and they and their friends with influence are now jacking the smear campaign up to make it appear worse.
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For the 8,999,764th time, lying to the NCAA is not a "minor violation."
 
#48
#48
After reading about Texas Tech tonite and their texting situation and probation, I think Bruce is going to be hit big time because of texting, but more importantly, the lying. Obviously, the NCAA picks and chooses who they want to pick on-apparently not the Ohio State 5-but Bruce is going to be one they want to get. I don't understand why he lied about it, so dumb.
 
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