Washpun question

[bleedingTNorange]

So basically everyone who isn't projected to start next season by VN's Nostradamus is going to transfer? Does anyone remember how awful Maymon looked last year? Players improve and freshmen don't usually start unless they're a John Wall or Jarnell Stokes type superstar.

I'm not sure whether or not any of Cuonzo's so called "emergency recruits" will ever contribute but the whole idea that incoming recruits are necessarily better than players currently on the roster is kind of dumb. Lane will start over Poole, Tiny will start over Thomas, Arnett/Dallas will start over ZR, the list goes on and on. Everyone is always infatuated with incoming recruits

you should do us all a favor and stay in the fb forum, but anyways...

try reading. i never said all players who dont start would transfer. if you would comprehend what i wrote, i said that out of wes, yemi, miller, chievous & reese(who you probably dont even know who that is, so go ahead and google him) that probably atleast 2 of them would not be on the roster next year.

i'll help you and do the math. that is me saying that 2 out of the 5 will not be on the team next year, thats not me saying everyone that doesnt start. there are 5 starters and 8 bench players, im claiming 2 will transfer, not the whole bench.

your right though freshman dont start unless they are john wall or jarnell stokes caliber, so why the heck did JOSH RICHARDSON start for this team???

LMAO at you using maymon, he wasnt a freshman last year so nice try. you continue to show by your comparisons though that you have ventured over here from the fb forum and are trying to compare the 2 sports, you cant. freshman can have an impact and not have to be john wall caliber players, yemi and josh have both had solid impacts on this team.

if you cant watch wes washpun and realize that our walk on backup who will play next year is better then i am sorry. if you also cant comprehend that the coaching staff is actively pursuing a JUCO PG who will come in and play major minutes and that that means wes will be 4th string PG well then once again i am sorry.

as i said, you would be best suited to stay in the fb forum. however, if you want to bandwagon your way over here, try and ask questions and learn a thing or 2 instead of making such strong statements like we dont know stanton, or incoming juco pg will be better than wes. anyone with 1 eye could tell you both would be better PG options than wes.

 

[TennesseeFan07]

Why?

You think e enjoys riding the bench?

No, but he doesn't really have any other options if he wishes to continue playing basketball. His defense will also improve. He'll be fine if Kenny Hall doesn't return.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I'll make it very simple Bart...

If Wes were to stay he isn't gonna play. If he couldnt get minutes at backup PG this year how will he next year? He couldn't beat out skylar mcbee OR Jordan McRae for back up PG minutes. Guess what both of them will be back next season.

Also, this year was a perfect opportunity for him to get minutes, we had one PG, golden. Next year there will be atleast 2, maybe even 3 PG. PLUS, well still have mcbee and McRae who he couldn't beat out this year.

So you really see him beating out 3 or 4 guys next year, when he couldn't beat out 1 this year, for back up PG minutes?

I don't think so.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

No, but he doesn't really have any other options if he wishes to continue playing basketball. His defense will also improve. He'll be fine if Kenny Hall doesn't return.

If he is on track to graduate I see him leaving.

He could transfer to a good mid major and be able to step in immediately and start.

 

[TennesseeFan07]

If he is on track to graduate I see him leaving.

He could transfer to a good mid major and be able to step in immediately and start.

He's not going to play for three schools in successive years. He's fine. He just needs to work on his defense. He is the only post player on the roster who can legitimately stretch the defense.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

He's not going to play for three schools in successive years. He's fine. He just needs to work on his defense. He is the only post player on the roster who can legitimately stretch the defense.

Says who? He wouldn't be the first person to transfer schools. I'm sure he wants to play, and that's not happening here.

He couldn't break the rotation of stokes maymon hall. Now he's having trouble breaking the rotation of stokes, maymon yemi who's a project freshman.

How will he break the rotation next year of stokes, maymon, hall, yemi and possibly Mitchell???

As I said, he could transfer to a legitimate mid major who's primed to make a run and just lacking a post guy. He'd step right in and be a major piece of that team. I have a hard time believing he doesn't want to play somewhere.

 

[BartW]

you should do us all a favor and stay in the fb forum, but anyways...

try reading. i never said all players who dont start would transfer. if you would comprehend what i wrote, i said that out of wes, yemi, miller, chievous & reese(who you probably dont even know who that is, so go ahead and google him) that probably atleast 2 of them would not be on the roster next year.

i'll help you and do the math. that is me saying that 2 out of the 5 will not be on the team next year, thats not me saying everyone that doesnt start. there are 5 starters and 8 bench players, im claiming 2 will transfer, not the whole bench.

your right though freshman dont start unless they are john wall or jarnell stokes caliber, so why the heck did JOSH RICHARDSON start for this team???

LMAO at you using maymon, he wasnt a freshman last year so nice try. you continue to show by your comparisons though that you have ventured over here from the fb forum and are trying to compare the 2 sports, you cant. freshman can have an impact and not have to be john wall caliber players, yemi and josh have both had solid impacts on this team.

if you cant watch wes washpun and realize that our walk on backup who will play next year is better then i am sorry. if you also cant comprehend that the coaching staff is actively pursuing a JUCO PG who will come in and play major minutes and that that means wes will be 4th string PG well then once again i am sorry.

as i said, you would be best suited to stay in the fb forum. however, if you want to bandwagon your way over here, try and ask questions and learn a thing or 2 instead of making such strong statements like we dont know stanton, or incoming juco pg will be better than wes. anyone with 1 eye could tell you both would be better PG options than wes.

Why would Washpun, Chievous, Miller, Yemi, or Reese want to stay here since they know they're all just going to be recruited over?

Maymon wasn't a freshman but it was his first year here and he improved a lot over one offseason. I wasn't aware that Richardson started at any point this season but sure he and Yemi have contributed.

I'll admit I haven't seen Stanton play outside of a few highlight tapes, he looks solid but I'm not going to pencil him in as our #2 before he ever suits up. If he turns out to be Rondo and we sign Fabyon Harris and he turns out to be Derrick Rose I'll be more than happy to eat my words. Those are some big ifs though, so can we see how our current players develop before we kick them to the curb?

I've been a vol fan all my life and I've followed basketball since before the Bruce Pearl era and lurked in the BB forum as long as I've been on Volnation, so the bandwagon comment is pretty baseless. I apologize if my posts are such a waste of your time that they drove you to insult lol

 

[BartW]

I'll make it very simple Bart...

If Wes were to stay he isn't gonna play. If he couldnt get minutes at backup PG this year how will he next year? He couldn't beat out skylar mcbee OR Jordan McRae for back up PG minutes. Guess what both of them will be back next season.

Also, this year was a perfect opportunity for him to get minutes, we had one PG, golden. Next year there will be atleast 2, maybe even 3 PG. PLUS, well still have mcbee and McRae who he couldn't beat out this year.

So you really see him beating out 3 or 4 guys next year, when he couldn't beat out 1 this year, for back up PG minutes?

I don't think so.

Honestly McBee, McRae, and even Golden are all better suited to SG. If we had a true PG ready to play he would have started there over any of those guys. Like I've said, Washpun could have used a redshirt year and does need to work on his ballhandling but he has a high ceiling. We (or atleast I) don't know what we'll get out of Stanton and we have no idea if we'll get Harris so I'm going to stick with my gut and say Washpun doesn't transfer this offseason

 

[TnScooby]

JMO But Wes will NEVER play significant minutes until he proves he can actually play defense..He's got game no doubt, but Jordan McRae puts on legendary scoring displays during scrimmages and didn't get minutes until he started playing good defense..CCM has a plan and players have to play BOTH ends of the court or they won't play at all..That's just how I see it.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Honestly McBee, McRae, and even Golden are all better suited to SG. If we had a true PG ready to play he would have started there over any of those guys. Like I've said, Washpun could have used a redshirt year and does need to work on his ballhandling but he has a high ceiling. We (or atleast I) don't know what we'll get out of Stanton and we have no idea if we'll get Harris so I'm going to stick with my gut and say Washpun doesn't transfer this offseason

He may not leave, but he won't play.

As I said if he couldn't get minutes last year he won't next year against stiffer competition.

If I'm wrong and washpun comes out and beats out Stanton's, and a juco if we get one, then I'll eat my words as well. I just don't see CCM recommending that he stays here when he most likely won't play. We already have the PG of the future signed in Landry, so it's not like Wes will ever be starting.

Wes has shown nothing that shows any signs though what so ever. All he has shown is why his only offers were from schools like South Dakota state, and Missouri state, he's a mid major level guy at best.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

JMO But Wes will NEVER play significant minutes until he proves he can actually play defense..He's got game no doubt, but Jordan McRae puts on legendary scoring displays during scrimmages and didn't get minutes until he started playing good defense..CCM has a plan and players have to play BOTH ends of the court or they won't play at all..That's just how I see it.

Defense is the least of Wes washpuns concern, that's one thing he's actually good at.

The biggest concern is that he couldn't bring the ball up the court in a church league without turning it over.