WCWS Semis

#151
#151
volwarrior33 said:
I am very happy with the direction of the basketball program. I am very unhappy with the direction of the baseball program, and I am very concerned with the direction of the football program.

I don’t follow any other sports closely at all. It seems the softball team had a solid season, and I watched them in spots throughout the postseason. It seems like they’re getting there, but can’t get over the hump at this point. I congratulate them on a good season, but today’s performance (losing twice after run ruling them Thursday) was still a choke IMO.
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I don't follow the baseball team so I have nothing to say on that. Football is a different forum. To say today was a choke job is a little ridiculous though IMO. They're young, an older experienced team doesn't make a few of those mistakes.
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#152
#152
GoVols2003 said:
The failure to call illegal pitch on Arizona (only one between both games today after an average of 8 per game in the other 3 games) was probably the greatest tragedy. Zona's coach openly said that they were not going to alter her pitching style. His argument after all was that the umpires were not consistently calling her on it. They were just calling it randomly.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the illegal pitch rules reviewed during the offseason. Lifting the pivot foot off the ground doesn't really give the pitcher an advantage. In fact, it can actually reduce the speed of a pitch since part of the pitcher's weight is moving up in the air instead of forward to the plate. If Fowler works on keeping the foot down and driving forward, she might actually get better next year.

All that said, if you make the call on her throughout the tournament, you have to keep calling it until she stops doing it. There's nothing I hate more in sports than inconsistent officiating.
 
#153
#153
#10_Ainge_#10 said:
I don't follow the baseball team so I have nothing to say on that. Football is a different forum. To say today was a choke job is a little ridiculous though IMO. They're young, an older experienced team doesn't make a few of those mistakes.
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That's my take too. In fact, I might even give my esteemed colleague from "Real Vols win"-atopia the word 'choke'. After all, the difference between the best experienced and inexperienced kids is that the pressure gets to the experienced ones less.

Of course, that pretty much castrates (or mastectomizes if you prefer) the word "choke", since "choking" usually implies the chokee's mistakes were beyond the pale for somebody of their skills AND experience.....
 
#154
#154
SGMVols said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see the illegal pitch rules reviewed during the offseason. Lifting the pivot foot off the ground doesn't really give the pitcher an advantage. In fact, it can actually reduce the speed of a pitch since part of the pitcher's weight is moving up in the air instead of forward to the plate. If Fowler works on keeping the foot down and driving forward, she might actually get better next year.

All that said, if you make the call on her throughout the tournament, you have to keep calling it until she stops doing it. There's nothing I hate more in sports than inconsistent officiating.
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Yet another thing that confused me.... Maybe I should cut down on the modeling glue...

I can see how the side-to-side pitcher infractions might give you an advantage, but WTF is with the bunny-hop militancy. Like you said, it means the pitcher's body is moving up instead of forward, and that means less of their force and 'english' is being applied to the ball... I assume....

I predict this one will be backed off of, just like they were over-intense about the zone around the kick-returner in CFB and then backed off the next year- yet, at least that rule was pretty easy to understand.

What was the deal with this one?
 
#155
#155
MemphisVol said:
To expand on my ignorance, that one confused me too. The way they explained it, if a third-strike foul tip is dropped it equals a strike-out.

I knew that if the catcher dropped or missed a straight-forward 3rd strike the batter had the right to try for 1st base, but what's the reasoning behind the 'dropped tip' rule?
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Once the catcher drops the ball it is no longer a "foul tip" it is just a foul ball so the batter would have remained at the dish.

Now the thing that confuses people is that a foul tip is a live ball.
 
#156
#156
SGMVols said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see the illegal pitch rules reviewed during the offseason. Lifting the pivot foot off the ground doesn't really give the pitcher an advantage. In fact, it can actually reduce the speed of a pitch since part of the pitcher's weight is moving up in the air instead of forward to the plate. If Fowler works on keeping the foot down and driving forward, she might actually get better next year.

All that said, if you make the call on her throughout the tournament, you have to keep calling it until she stops doing it. There's nothing I hate more in sports than inconsistent officiating.
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Leaping does actually give the pitcher an advantage don't listen to the clowns that were broadcasting the game.

What happens is a pitcher can gain 3 or 4 inches or more toward home plate by leaping.
 
#159
#159
jaybird_1981 said:
Leaping does actually give the pitcher an advantage don't listen to the clowns that were broadcasting the game.

What happens is a pitcher can gain 3 or 4 inches or more toward home plate by leaping.
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One of those "clowns" also happens to be one of the best pitchers in the history of softball...

FWIW, lifting the pivot foot is allowed in international rules (i.e., the rules that were played by in the Olympics). No way that would be allowed if it gave the pitcher an advantage.
 
#160
#160
SGMVols said:
One of those "clowns" also happens to be one of the best pitchers in the history of softball...

FWIW, lifting the pivot foot is allowed in international rules (i.e., the rules that were played by in the Olympics). No way that would be allowed if it gave the pitcher an advantage.
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Listen, the next time a player or commentator actually understands the rules may be the first. It wouldn't be a rule if it didn't provide an advantage case closed.
 
#161
#161
These Lady Vols are very young.With the best recruiting class coming in I look for these girls to be here next year.
 
#162
#162
jaybird_1981 said:
Leaping does actually give the pitcher an advantage don't listen to the clowns that were broadcasting the game.

What happens is a pitcher can gain 3 or 4 inches or more toward home plate by leaping.
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To continue the campaign to relieve my ignorance-- isn't the problem, then, that in addition to the ones that gain an advantage they are also calling girls for the infraction who move mostly up (like AZ's girl tonight)? IOW, the rule is about leaving the ground and moving forward, but the way the rule is written and is being called actually penalizes a pitcher for having both feet off the ground in a way that screws up her pitch.

Am I right that, for the reason you gave, it's a good rule, but the way it's written and enforced is kind've "Palin trying to use a calculator"?
 
#163
#163
MemphisVol said:
To continue the campaign to relieve my ignorance-- isn't the problem, then, that in addition to the ones that gain an advantage they are also calling girls for the infraction who move mostly up (like AZ's girl tonight)? IOW, the rule is about leaving the ground and moving forward, but the way the rule is written and is being called actually penalizes a pitcher for having both feet off the ground in a way that screws up her pitch.

Am I right that, for the reason you gave, it's a good rule, but the way it's written and enforced is kind've "Palin trying to use a calculator"?
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Well the other thing the leaping rule helps with is the "crowhop" rule, where the pitcher replants the pivot foot. If you make it to where leaping is illegal it makes it a lot harder to crowhop since you have to drag and can't replant as easily.

The problem is throughout the ranks in ASA they don't enforce the rules properly when these girls are coming up through the system. But for the AZ coach to act like he didn't know his pitcher was IP'ing is a complete farce.
 
#164
#164
jaybird_1981 said:
Well the other thing the leaping rule helps with is the "crowhop" rule, where the pitcher replants the pivot foot. If you make it to where leaping is illegal it makes it a lot harder to crowhop since you have to drag and can't replant as easily.

The problem is throughout the ranks in ASA they don't enforce the rules properly when these girls are coming up through the system. But for the AZ coach to act like he didn't know his pitcher was IP'ing is a complete farce.
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While you're talking about a more complex violation, it still sounds like they are unfairly calling all "hops" in the name of catching a small number that are unfair.

That said-- Is it simply that hard in real-time for a live human to spot the difference between the versions that are unfair and the ones that are screw-ups so we need a slightly broader than normal rule?
 
#165
#165
MemphisVol said:
While you're talking about a more complex violation, it still sounds like they are unfairly calling all "hops" in the name of catching a small number that are unfair.

That said-- Is it simply that hard in real-time for a live human to spot the difference between the versions that are unfair and the ones that are screw-ups so we need a slightly broader than normal rule?
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There are no legal hops really. If both feet are in the air no matter how high off the ground it is an illegal pitch.
 
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