We got screwed

#77
#77
BartW said:
A rub. Just barely get in the way and slow him down. Which is exactly what Castles did
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I thought his was clean and so did everyone else. It’s not like it was a beheading crack back. When a guy isn’t looking any contact looks worse than it is and the refs are going to have to take that into account.
 
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#79
GatorBob said:
This is good observations
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#80
#80
We must be getting better . Last week we lost because of refs' , not running thru the T, and ugly uniforms. Got it down to just the ref's this week.
 
#81
#81
Not saying the refs were the reason we lost but that was the same crew that reffed the Ole Miss game.
 
#83
#83
rocketskates said:
The refs didn’t help our comeback at all. I’ll give you that. On the “blindside block” series we most certainly would’ve gotten points as we had Florida on their heels. Likely would’ve converted on the 4th and 1 had the ref not kicked the ball allowing Florida to sub as well. But the lesson to be learned at the end of the day is don’t go down 26-7 to a SEC team in a hostile environment. The refs poor calls should’ve been a moot point as had we played well we would’ve been winning anyway.
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When the ref kicked the ball, the umpire had to reset it. But if you notice, the umpire backed out right after the Florida players started to runoff. If Milton had got up, went behind center and started the play we would have got a participation penalty against Florida.
 
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#84
C-south said:
I thought his was clean and so did everyone else. It’s not like it was a beheading crack back. When a guy isn’t looking any contact looks worse than it is and the refs are going to have to take that into account.
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Herbstreit, Fowler, and the ref analyst on the network thought that was a legal block.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Herbstreit, Fowler, and the ref analyst on the network thought that was a legal block.
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I thought Fowler and Herbie called a straight game.
We got some bad calls and made a tone of STUPID mistakes.
They looked ill-prepared mentally.
 
#86
#86
It was an extremely soft call, but I think they called it because he went at his head. I think if he hit him anywhere else it doesn’t get called. But still a very soft call
 
#87
#87
Shaun1985 said:
No we didn't get screwed. We took one in the rear with no lube and gladly welcomed it. We are 3 scores better than that team. No reason officiating should matter.
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The point of the game is not to overcome the officiating. Officials exist to create fairness by applying an equal application of the rules. Not by unleveling the playing field so one team can see how much they are able to overcome before it's too much.
 
#88
#88
UT_Tix79 said:
It was an extremely soft call, but I think they called it because he went at his head. I think if he hit him anywhere else it doesn’t get called. But still a very soft call
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Are you on crack? Castles went for the shoulder pads.
 
#89
#89
He shoulder checked his head and neck, he was just trying to make a play. But given that’s been something the refs have been told to pay attention to, he got flagged for it. If he hits him lower, I don’t think it’s called, but that’s just my opinion.

Listen to the announcers, they start calling it a bad call, then say oh that looked bad in slow motion, and then said they still hate the call.

All old school players hate that call, illegal crack back is a dumb rule, as is targeting ejections. But they were created for safety reasons and the refs will call it if they see it everytime
 
#90
#90
barney said:
Honestly thought a few of our players and the refs put money on Florida. It's not going to be long before some sec players or refs are caught gambling. I guarantee you its happening now. Legalizing sports gambling has been a disaster for college football.
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That writing was on the wall as soon as they decided they could make a whole lot of money off the games. Unfortunately, It will destroy the game. Anybody that bets on these games are fueling the whole system. Once you go in business with the mob, you're done. I've never understood the desire to throw hard earned money away.

It kills me because I remember the commissioner of baseball saying that Pete Rose would never get in the HOF because of betting. Now it's "whatever". I don't think this is change for the better.
 
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#91
#91
Berry4Heisman14 said:
Refs aren’t why we lost. We suck and that’s why we lost
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Regardless of whether or not they changed the outcome of the game WE WERE SCREWED BY THE REFS. Even the broadcast crew broke protctive ranks and showed them multiple times for a reason. Most were not even questionable as to whether they were bad calls.

The sad part about crews like this is NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW if they deprived us of a chance at a comeback OR NOT.

Was the bogus contact to the head on the roughing call on their last scoring drive? Can't remember. The ref made the callout, replayed it to be sure.

Have you ever seen a respot of the ball due to actions other than the offensive team NOT resetting the playclock to 25?

The blindside block call was just awful PERIOD. When the retired replay guy in the booth calls it out you KNOW.

The OBVIOUS shirt tug in the endzone that was ignored is not excusable.

Can ANBODY PROVIDE video evidence of ANY same level calls to FL disadvantage? I won't try and represent their side one way or the other. But I don't remember any.
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
He shoulder checked his head and neck, he was just trying to make a play. But given that’s been something the refs have been told to pay attention to, he got flagged for it. If he hits him lower, I don’t think it’s called, but that’s just my opinion.

Listen to the announcers, they start calling it a bad call, then say oh that looked bad in slow motion, and then said they still hate the call.

All old school players hate that call, illegal crack back is a dumb rule, as is targeting ejections. But they were created for safety reasons and the refs will call it if they see it everytime
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Or in this instance make it up. The broadcast crew and rules guy all challenged the refs JUDGEMENT. Bad judgement is bad.
 
#94
#94
My position is that we had an opportunity to get back in the game but it didn't happen because the refs were so terrible. Don't know if we would have won at the end of the day. Erasing a pretty abysmal first half is hard to do, but refs made it impossible.
 
#95
#95
BreatheUT said:
The point of the game is not to overcome the officiating. Officials exist to create fairness by applying an equal application of the rules. Not by unleveling the playing field so one team can see how much they are able to overcome before it's too much.
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I agree but we're a lot more talented than the Gators. It shouldn't matter
 
#98
#98
Volsfan1313 said:
It was obvious we were the better team the second half but Florida got every call. I hope Napier swallows, he obviously promised them something. We will be okay, the coaching staff made adjustments at the half that showed we were the better team. Go vols and screw Florida up holding every damn play
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The officiating for the 2nd week in a row cost UT in big ways at critical points. The PI non-calls toward the end were awful. The crack back on Castles if called consistently would eliminate those WR screens from the playbooks of every team in CFB. I am not sure about the holding calls against UT. I do not recall the replays. I am sure that UF consistently got away with "wrapping up" and tackling on the OL. The one most glaring toward the end of the game against Baron would have likely been declined... but it would have stopped the clock and preserved some time.

So yes, very poor officiating again and very apparently one-sided.

HOWEVER... UT had even MORE chances to make plays to win the game. On one of the replays for a missed PI in the corner, you could see a wide open dig in the middle for a first down. The decision there was NOT to throw to a well covered WR in the corner with help coming over the top. The decision was to take the first down and get a new set of downs. At various times, UF changed their look late causing Milton to run plays right into the strength of the D. WR play seemed to improve in the 2nd half but they still weren't getting great separation. Considering the speed some of those guys have... that's an issue.

Milton was relatively accurate but still missed a game changing opportunity deep.


UT should not have to go into the "Swamp" and play the officials and UF. But they did. And they still had plenty of opportunities to win and couldn't get it done.
 
#99
#99
AstonRoyal said:
Yeah but we can only control one of these things
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In game, that's true. However after last week, the SEC office should have gotten an ear full from UT about bad calls. Different crew I know... but the review of officials coming from UT this week should be scorching. It was bad. It was one-sided. It influenced the outcome of the game.

And yeah, like I said in my post above, UT still had plenty of chances to win the game and continue to have guys missing opportunities.
 
#100
#100
UT_Tix79 said:
It was an extremely soft call, but I think they called it because he went at his head. I think if he hit him anywhere else it doesn’t get called. But still a very soft call
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At some point, they need to start considering how much the runner (and he was a runner at that point, not a QB) contributed to how and where the contact took place. A clear targeting hit I have no problem with the penalty, but I have seen targeting calls where the offensive player made a major contribution to how and where he got hit.
 
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