We have the same record as LSU..

[orangemadam]

Well, having a record of 8-4 when 6 of those are cupcakes isn't exactly setting
the world on fire. With Ok coming onto the schedule next season, 8-4 is probably
best case and 7-5 is more likely expected.

I don't think 7-5 is gonna set well with a lot of the VN fans unless major staff changes
are made. Nico will certainly be a salve, but with the way the Vols have been losing, he
shouldn't be expected to be superman. 8-4 would certainly have been more acceptable
if the losses hadn't been blowouts like we saw in second half of Bama, 1st half Fla and
entire game at Mizz. Will we have a complete blowout vs Ga for the full game or only half a game?

 

[LargeOrange1]

But yet it’s like the world is melting… 8-4 is still better than most seasons in the past 15 years. This staff will finally have more than 60% of the team as their recruits next year and we can still ruin Georgias season next week with a great game. I love our Vols and still trust this is the staff to lead us into the future GBO…

 

[MurphyVol]

Speaking of LSU, this guy will be on a short leash. You know, they're hired 3 coaches in a row that have won the NC and two of them were morons. Despite being in this conference, it's an incredibly easy place to recruit/win. Even Gerry Dinardo had a winning record there. If Kelly doesn't get the the SECCG in the next 2-3 years he'll be packing a bag

 

[BeardedVol]

Short memories… last year we beat Bama, LSU & Florida… 3 years ago we had the worst coach in program history, since 2009 (15 years) we have had four seasons with 8 or more wins: 2015, 2016 (Dobbs years), 2019, & 2022. 8 wins has not been a “given” for a while… would I have hoped we’d have won more than 8 (& I’m not conceding the Georgia game, for the possibility of 9), yes! Is it an utter failure if 8 wins is where we end the year? No! Look at how much help Florida, Bama, UK & even gut punching Mizzou got from the zebras in hose games… beating an opposing team is one thing beating the jack@$$es in stripes is completely different.

And how much exactly did the history of UT football have an impact on the player and coaching performances last night?

Your final record doesn't matter if you can't compete in your conference.

4-4 is not being competitive in your conference.

 

[midtnvol2]

It’s not the losses that bother me, it’s how we lost those games. This team is too soft when they get hit in the mouth. We shouldn’t be getting blown out by Mizzou in year 3.

Yep I agree. CJH teams are the most penalized team in the SEC and consistantly can't win on the road. This is all on the coaching staff. Next year will be huge. It will prove if last season was a flash in the pan season or if year one and this year is the norm. Even Botch some how stumbled into one good season.

 

[CAVPUT]

Speaking of LSU, this guy will be on a short leash. You know, they're hired 3 coaches in a row that have won the NC and two of them were morons. Despite being in this conference, it's an incredibly easy place to recruit/win. Even Gerry Dinardo had a winning record there. If Kelly doesn't get the the SECCG in the next 2-3 years he'll be packing a bag

As long as Saban is there, I'm not putting money on Kelly.

 

[whodeycin85]

I think this thread will be what gets people to not be upset anymore.

Seriously, though. People have the right to be fuming mad over this game. They even have the right to post stupid things (though I do this daily) Emotions do that. However, why do we care about LSU and their record? You’re not going to have a lot of positive comments today. People vent. It’s fine.

Unless you practiced with the team and help prepared them, was there helping the sidelines... no you have RIGHT to anything but your emotional over reactions. Much like children....you can feel any way you want..you can post anything you want..but some one you need to evaluate your reactions...maybe show some humility in the fact that 99% have.no clue what it take to play or excel at this level....put down the Madden and NCAA. Get off the social media...touch some grass gain some perspective

 

[The Original Fade]

And there’s 1 thing I know 100%.
If you switch QB’s and give us Daniel’s we’d be much better and they’d suck.

Truth

 

[mudhen]

Just out of curiosity, has Nico burned his redshirt?

 

[BruiserVol]

As I suspected, the VN meltdown. We are in year 3 of a complete rebuild. JH and staff have done incredible work rebuilding the program, getting top level recruits, winning games we should not have won considering we lost 35 transfers when he came in. I believe 2025 we play for the Natty. Next year we'll scare some people again and be in the hunt but 2025 is our year! We are most likely finishing now 8-4 and that was a lot of predictions by VN at the beginning of the season. I thought 9-3 or 10-2 and we still have a shot at 9-3 though a small shot because it's at home! 8-4 with a good bowl game and this will launch into the Nico era and new playoff system next year. I'm excited for the future!!

Go Vols!

You are delusional. We won’t scare anyone next year with Nico getting his first ever meaningful playing time. Next year is another 8-4 year at best and the excuses will pour in for it being a Nico building year.

 

[Tnphil]

LSU is 4-2 in conference play and beat this same Missouri team by 10 points, and is about to beat Florida 52-35, and will most likely end the season 6-2 with a win over A&M.

We on the other hand are going to end the season 4-4 in conference play with our best conference win being over a garbage Kentucky team.

Beating cupcakes and OOC teams with losing records means nothing if the best we can manage is .500 in the SEC.

Exactly....

 

[Tnphil]

Lol, we don't have the roster to beat a putrid Florida coached by Sun Belt Billy?

Did you have the same opinion of our roster in the first half of the Alabama game?

Guess we didn't have the roster to not get ass whipped by DrinkaWink with 2 and 3 star players and mediocre recruiting classes.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Man put NCAA ‘14 down for 5 minutes and come back to the real world. This roster was never going to be better than 8-4 unless it got someone by surprise, which it very well may next week, who knows.

Thus is BS thinking. Don’t sit there and say that you were not expecting us to be serious SECE contenders after the Orange Bowl. That’s BS. Nearly all of us had us being serious contenders. Nearly all of us thought crappy UF would be a win. NOBODY saw us getting boatraced by Missouri.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

Thus is BS thinking. Don’t sit there and say that you were not expecting us to be serious SECE contenders after the Orange Bowl. That’s BS. Nearly all of us had us being serious contenders. Nearly all of us thought crappy UF would be a win. NOBODY saw us getting boatraced by Missouri.

Go find my previous posts. I’ve always said 8-4, except my losses were UF, A&M, Bama, and UGA. I was wrong on A&M and Mizzou. Now I did not think we’d look as bad as we did against Mizzou, but overall, no I never thought Atlanta was a reality.

 

[DrTNT]

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And how much exactly did the history of UT football have an impact on the player and coaching performances last night?

Your final record doesn't matter if you can't compete in your conference.

4-4 is not being competitive in your conference.

4 - 4 in conference is still a far cry better than the dumpster fire ignition season of 2020 in which we won 3 games all year and were 3 - 7 in the SEC (though technically now 0 - 7)… I’m saying look where we were then and what this staff has done in a very short time, it takes time to build w consistent winning program; I believe these coaches are doing it the right way! But instant overnight success that is desired by this fast food social media society we live in is ridiculously foolish & often leads to flash in the pan moments at best. I would much rather become a consistent top 10/ top 5 team again and occasionally win an SECCG / National Championship… than be a flash in the pan.

 

[BeardedVol]

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4 - 4 in conference is still a far cry better than the dumpster fire ignition season of 2020 in which we won 3 games all year and were 3 - 7 in the SEC (though technically now 0 - 7)… I’m saying look where we were then and what this staff has done in a very short time, it takes time to build w consistent winning program; I believe these coaches are doing it the right way! But instant overnight success that is desired by this fast food social media society we live in is ridiculously foolish & often leads to flash in the pan moments at best. I would much rather become a consistent top 10/ top 5 team again and occasionally win an SECCG / National Championship… than be a flash in the pan.

So we are setting the bar at "being better than 2020"?

That's the measure of a successful season at Tennessee?

 

[Adam Sandler]

But yet it’s like the world is melting… 8-4 is still better than most seasons in the past 15 years. This staff will finally have more than 60% of the team as their recruits next year and we can still ruin Georgias season next week with a great game. I love our Vols and still trust this is the staff to lead us into the future GBO…

Their losses are to undefeated fsu in essentially a road game, at Alabama, and at top 10 ole miss in the final seconds.

They beat Missouri on the road, hung 49 on em. They just hung 50 on Florida. We let both those average at best teams embarrass us.

It’s not a fair comparison. I do admire your ability to distort reality in order to remain positive.

EDIT: I agree with all you said, about the future. Just don’t think LSU is a good current comparison.

 

[Pappy]

But yet it’s like the world is melting… 8-4 is still better than most seasons in the past 15 years. This staff will finally have more than 60% of the team as their recruits next year and we can still ruin Georgias season next week with a great game. I love our Vols and still trust this is the staff to lead us into the future GBO…

but a lot of folks on here see how the lack of self motivation makes the losses seem worse….you can’t coach motivation

 

[Run-da-ball-vol]

We’re not even in the same ballpark as lsu this year. If you think what mizzou’s offense did to us is bad, they’d have to arrest BK and team for the unspeakable things they would do to us.

 

[DrTNT]

So we are setting the bar at "being better than 2020"?

That's the measure of a successful season at Tennessee?

Not at all, just saying this team is still a work in progress from 2020s all time program low. We’re 3 years removed from that $#!+show and have made tremendous strides as a program in that time… there will be growing pains, but we will get there.

 

[BeardedVol]

Not at all, just saying this team is still a work in progress from 2020s all time program low. We’re 3 years removed from that $#!+show and have made tremendous strides as a program in that time… there will be growing pains, but we will get there.

How many years do we need to be removed from Pruitt's tenure before consistently being better than .500 in conference play can be considered a reasonable expectation?

 

[Adam Sandler]

How many years do we need to be removed from Pruitt's tenure before consistently being better than .500 in conference play can be considered a reasonable expectation?

If it’s not next year, I’ll be asking the same question, and much louder.

 

[BigALWiLson]

It’s not about the record it’s about how we got beat and by who. Championship caliber coaches don’t get beat like that let alone in year 3. It’s a bad sign.

Which championship coaches exactly ? Georgia , Ohio State , Bama because LSU has been beaten badly, Auburn, USC. Pretty easy to win at the top 3 schools

 

[bpalmer28]

Which championship coaches exactly ? Georgia , Ohio State , Bama because LSU has been beaten badly, Auburn, USC. Pretty easy to win at the top 3 schools

I’m referring to all of them. I don’t recall Saban, Kirby, Les, Orgeron, Jimbo, Dabo (except for the bowl game), Urban, Harbaugh (no championship but I consider him in that league), Day, Stoops, Carrol, Riley, Malzahn… on and on we go… I don’t recall ANY of them losing a game by 30 points, especially to an inferior program.

Edit just to add that I’m not trying to be a negavol and I do still believe in Heupel. I’m just saying that in my mind we are clearly not on the correct path and Heupel will most likely have to make some major changes in order to succeed.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Lol ruin Georgias season? They could play their backups and beat the hell out of this team

Exactly. Delusional Vol Fans. Actually know very little about football.