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Obsessed said:
71% of the US population feel that the Trump economy is great
The US is the worlds largest oil exportor and will continue to be for the next 5 years.
(It’s been 70 years since the last time this happened)

That’s not a failure.
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I think the immediate economy is good. I think much of it is coming at the expense of our long term well being. I also do not acknowledge that it's "the Trump economy."
Trump is completely short term thinking and an immediate gratification type of guy.
I think the 71% saying the economy is good is kind of like asking a group of kids while they're on their family vacation if everything is going well with the family finances.
 
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luthervol said:
I think the immediate economy is good. I think much of it is coming at the expense of our long term well being. I also do not acknowledge that it's "the Trump economy."
Trump is completely short term thinking and an immediate gratification type of guy.
I think the 71% saying the economy is good is kind of like asking a group of kids while they're on their family vacation if everything is going well with the family finances.
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Based on what almost all of the dims have been campaigning on they have absolutely no regard about finances.
 
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C-south said:
Based on what almost all of the dims have been campaigning on they have absolutely no regard about finances.
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All of their campaign vehicles should be a van with the words "free candy" printed on the sides.

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C-south said:
Yay. Git r done
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All these people pretend they are for rule of law, the constitution, original intent, etc. It's all ********.

Congress doesn't have the power to cede power to the executive

Even if they can cede power, the point of emergency powers is the executive can act faster than congress...news flash: congress has acted and they said "no".

Levin is a joke
 
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Good luck with funding for this. Don't worry though, the wall will protect you.

The U.S. Air Force says it needs $4.9 billion in new funding over the next two and a half years to cover the costs of rebuilding two air bases hit by natural disasters.

About one-third of Offutt Air Force Base, in eastern Nebraska, was underwater earlier this month as flooding hit large swaths of the Midwest. And Tyndall Air Force Base in the Florida Panhandle was hit hard by Hurricane Michael in October.

The Air Force is asking for $1.2 billion in supplemental funding for fiscal year 2019 and $3.7 billion for fiscal years 2020 and 2021. Congress would need to approve the funding.

Air Force Needs Almost $5 Billion To Recover Bases From Hurricane, Flood Damage
 
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Mick said:
Good luck with funding for this. Don't worry though, the wall will protect you.

The U.S. Air Force says it needs $4.9 billion in new funding over the next two and a half years to cover the costs of rebuilding two air bases hit by natural disasters.

About one-third of Offutt Air Force Base, in eastern Nebraska, was underwater earlier this month as flooding hit large swaths of the Midwest. And Tyndall Air Force Base in the Florida Panhandle was hit hard by Hurricane Michael in October.

The Air Force is asking for $1.2 billion in supplemental funding for fiscal year 2019 and $3.7 billion for fiscal years 2020 and 2021. Congress would need to approve the funding.

Air Force Needs Almost $5 Billion To Recover Bases From Hurricane, Flood Damage
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Maybe those bases should be closed. Putting bases in places where natural disasters occur may not be the best plan.
Save the $.
 
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Mick said:
Tyndall AFB is strategic to the Gulf. @Grand Vol told me that. I would be interested in his opinion on it's necessity.
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My opinion on slashing the DoD is not popular. However i can appreciate that certain bases have a strategic location.

In my mind, the Air Force doesn't need to be close to the ocean because planes fly over land and water the same.
 
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Mick said:
Tyndall AFB is strategic to the Gulf. @Grand Vol told me that. I would be interested in his opinion on it's necessity.
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I don't remember saying it was strategic to the Gulf. I do recall saying it wouldn't be cheap to replicate the mission it performs (fighter training and Southern Air Defense) in another location without a large investment of capital. And whether they have the space at another base is another point.

@McDad

The point behind it being on the coast is not just because it's in an awesome location (that certainly doesn't hurt though) but rather the controlled airspace they have over the Gulf in order to practice fighter tactics and shoot down drones without worrying about them crashing into Farmer John's field and having to pay him for it. They get shot down, they sink to the bottom of the Gulf, no mess, no fuss.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I don't remember saying it was strategic to the Gulf. I do recall saying it wouldn't be cheap to replicate the mission it performs (fighter training and Southern Air Defense) in another location without a large investment of capital. And whether they have the space at another base is another point.

@McDad

The point behind it being on the coast is not just because it's in an awesome location (that certainly doesn't hurt though) but rather the controlled airspace they have over the Gulf in order to practice fighter tactics and shoot down drones without worrying about them crashing into Farmer John's field and having to pay him for it. They get shot down, they sink to the bottom of the Gulf, no mess, no fuss.
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Thanks.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I don't remember saying it was strategic to the Gulf. I do recall saying it wouldn't be cheap to replicate the mission it performs (fighter training and Southern Air Defense) in another location without a large investment of capital. And whether they have the space at another base is another point.

@McDad

The point behind it being on the coast is not just because it's in an awesome location (that certainly doesn't hurt though) but rather the controlled airspace they have over the Gulf in order to practice fighter tactics and shoot down drones without worrying about them crashing into Farmer John's field and having to pay him for it. They get shot down, they sink to the bottom of the Gulf, no mess, no fuss.
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Makes sense. Nevada is great for practicing pilot pewpew, too.
 
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McDad said:
Makes sense. Nevada is great for practicing pilot pewpew, too.
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However, there's still the problem of potentially populated areas that a drone could come crashing down on. Especially if the shot only damages said drone and it keeps flying for a distance afterwards.

Over the Gulf, they have the ability to try intercepting again as well as having alert fighters that could be used if it became a danger to populated areas. Or the controllers just crash it in the water.

Tyndall has more upside than Nellis in the regard of public safety.
 
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Grand Vol said:
However, there's still the problem of potentially populated areas that a drone could come crashing down on. Especially if the shot only damages said drone and it keeps flying for a distance afterwards.

Over the Gulf, they have the ability to try intercepting again as well as having alert fighters that could be used if it became a danger to populated areas. Or the controllers just crash it in the water.

Tyndall has more upside than Nellis in the regard of public safety.
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The nuclear testing grounds in Nevada are huge with nobody there. Don't you think the same safety offered by open water is essentially offered by uninhabitable desert?
 
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McDad said:
The nuclear testing grounds in Nevada are huge with nobody there. Don't you think the same safety offered by open water is essentially offered by uninhabitable desert?
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Yes.

A couple of reasons why since you asked why I had a simple answer of "yes" to your question. Sure, there are large desolate areas out in Nevada that would make a good "crashing" area for drones that are shot down. However, what kind of media craze would happen if somehow a drone was only damaged and ended up crashing on the Las Vegas strip? Yeah, that would suck to be the Nellis AFB Public Affairs Officer in dealing with that.

Secondly, even if it did come down over land, there still has to be removal of the wreckage and an environmental "cleanup" so to speak. Crashing in the ocean? It's not entirely "environmentally sound" but a whole lot less mess than trying to deal with the EPA (yes, the military deals with those turds quite often) over what environmental impact a crashed QF-4 or QF-16 drone will make. Plus, there still is the public safety potential since there are idiots that don't care if the grounds were used as nuclear testing and still will traipse over that land just to "see" it. And even though the area is marked as a no-go zone, there will still be idiots that will get hurt on such crashed targets and sue the military for it.

Anyway, an over water testing area is a lot easier to deal with than over land.
 
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