Well Here is the Reason Te'a Cooper left the program.

[1CHATTVOL]

Warlick was a terrible choice, not qualified, has been over her head from the beginning. Poor communications skills, not the brightest bulb in coaching by a long shot. But as a member of her family (yes?), I don't expect you to get the disarray into which the program has fallen. Two embarrassing blowout losses in the elite 8, a fallout with the recruiting coordinator followed by a recruiting year with ZERO recruits, effectively--unheard of; 26 losses over the last two years and seeds of 5 and 7 in the SEC tournament; three player departures this off-season, plus a coach....haven't even reached the Final Four in 10 years...and meantime our once biggest rival roars along. Yea, why WOULD fans be negative--it's all going so well!

Oh, hardy har har. You're SO pleasant. The laughs...the good times.

Once you parlay your obvious skill and experience running an athletic department - oh! and let's not omit that superior northern education and penchant for the morose - I'm sure you'll have tongue-whipped the Lady Vol program into something you can be proud of.

Then again, it will dramatically reduce your Volnation comment material. But hey, you've had a helluva run.

 

[1CHATTVOL]

Hey 1CHATTVOL, I enjoy your posts, but you can use the quotation mark button to the right of the Quote button to make multi-quote posts instead of 3 or 4 or 5 in a row. HTH.

Thanks, Frozen. I don't think that feature is available for mobile devices.

 

[Besti]

Dean, Sharrona and Jolette had zero connections outside of good graces with the Tennessee program prior to becoming Assistants. Dean and Sharrona remain obviously but considering that all three assistant positions last year were not filled by someone in the Tennessee family I don't see why it is automatically assumed that will be the case with the new hire.

There are a few former Lady Vols worth taking a look at. Tasha Butts and Alex Simmons for example. However, last year no one expected Reaves to be the choice so clearly the search will expand far beyond Tennessee alumni.

And I hope that the Lady Vol program does whatever the hell it wants to regarding how they honor Pat and zero flips will be given if any outsiders thinks it is a problem.

Regarding your first sentence, you're correct on 1 out of 3. I didn't say or mean Tenn alumni, it's connection to Tennessee in general.

You're annoyance about what I said regarding Pat's seat confirms my statement about Tenn nepotism is correct. You don't care if something might be a red flag to a potential coach, if that something is suggested by an outsider. If you want to limit your recruiting pool that's fine. I just gave my honest opinion.

 

[TNnative]

Get ready to be attacked by the Holly can do no wrong crowd

Holly's hairdresser and housekeeper does not constitute a crowd.

 

[tennparker3]

Regarding your first sentence, you're correct on 1 out of 3. I didn't say or mean Tenn alumni, it's connection to Tennessee in general.

You're annoyance about what I said regarding Pat's seat confirms my statement about Tenn nepotism is correct. You don't care if something might be a red flag to a potential coach, if that something is suggested by an outsider. If you want to limit your recruiting pool that's fine. I just gave my honest opinion.

I'm correct on 3 out of 3, as I said some of them had connections through good graces. You don't need to adjust your narrative just because you were off base in your statement.

Your definition of nepotism is flawed, especially regarding Pat and Tennessee's symbiosis.

I would be fine having a coaching staff made up entirely of non-Lady Vol connected persons and if they chose to honor Pat with a chair or anything else I'm fine with it. Does that help you comprehend what I'm saying?

 

[TNnative]

Pretty sure the season was still going on for Serrano's forced resignation and Winterbotham's firing. Maybe post season tourneys.

My point was if it was as horrendous as folks say on here, he would've fired HW by now.

First of all, Serrano's resignation wasn't so forced. He was just as displeased with the results as anyone. I was told Serrano told Currie the change was needed, not vice versa. Had Currie walked into that meeting with his mind made up? Maybe, but that sounds as much like a forced resignation as a country singer deciding to take the lead in an opera.

Now, let me ask a simple question. How many basketball games have the Lady Vols played since Currie got hired? Tennis and Baseball were going on when he got here, so he had time to review what was going on with his own eyes, and to take action.

But do you actually believe a AD will fire a coach before they play a game on his watch? I don't care how horrendous it might be, short of an incident involving sanction and/or publicly embarrassing the university, to even suggest she would be fired by him at this point is too absurd to put into words.

 

[1CHATTVOL]

First of all, ...

But do you actually believe a AD will fire a coach before they play a game on his watch? I don't care how horrendous it might be, short of an incident involving sanction and/or publicly embarrassing the university, to even suggest she would be fired by him at this point is too absurd to put into words.

I have followed your "work" here on VN in this and other forums. You obviously spend a lot of time watching and messaging about Tennessee sports.

If anyone read the Holly comments by certain members on here, then one might think Holly had publicly shamed the University. I mean, her results are there in black & white for all to see. And for some it's been a slam fest from the first moment she was announced.

Again, my point is that to most anyone not unduly negative, Holly's entire body of work is worthy of continuing to coach. Did you listen to Gary Blair say they would erect a statue to him if he had Holly's results?

Anyway, I know I'm not going to change your mind. Hope you enjoy your evening. Post on!

 

[T_Vol376]

I have followed your "work" here on VN in this and other forums. You obviously spend a lot of time watching and messaging about Tennessee sports.

If anyone read the Holly comments by certain members on here, then one might think Holly had publicly shamed the University. I mean, her results are there in black & white for all to see. And for some it's been a slam fest from the first moment she was announced.

Again, my point is that to most anyone not unduly negative, Holly's entire body of work is worthy of continuing to coach. Did you listen to Gary Blair say they would erect a statue to him if he had Holly's results?

Anyway, I know I'm not going to change your mind. Hope you enjoy your evening. Post on!

Another good one, 1CV!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

 

[Pat4life]

Welp. I'm sorry to see the young lady leave because she is tough. She is mentally and physically tough. Sorry Nared, can't see Cooper in a fight. lol ijs We lost one of our most competitive players on the roster. She will be a great guard. Sue Bird called her the next point guard of the generation, with her strength and size. Goodluck Cooper.

Yes, I do not like the double standard displayed here, like Madtownvol mentioned, if would've been two male basketball players, we'd all be laughing, I mean as teammates you fight, you make up, its an emotional ride to be the best, and you challenge each other, I like the fact that Nared didn't back down but not renew Te'a scholarship over a fight between teammates, is.... ???? No one took this out of Holly's hand, this was her decision.

Cooper you will be missed. Nared, its your team now! Let's see what you got young lady. Holly, its your team, all eyes are on you. We are pulling for you cos I think you chose chemistry vs talent, and its evident our ladies didn't really like playing basketball with each other all time, so if that fixes that fine. What's a lil fight among teammates? I bet all the players left, all breathe a sigh of relief... chemistry is important.

And that slip up with emoji, was pretty much summed up her experience coaching Diamond! lol

I back Pat, and roll with Holly!

 

[gule]

so, is it Nared's team or Holly's? make up your mind.

 

[Besti]

I'm correct on 3 out of 3, as I said some of them had connections through good graces. You don't need to adjust your narrative just because you were off base in your statement.

Your definition of nepotism is flawed, especially regarding Pat and Tennessee's symbiosis.

I would be fine having a coaching staff made up entirely of non-Lady Vol connected persons and if they chose to honor Pat with a chair or anything else I'm fine with it. Does that help you comprehend what I'm saying?

I didn't adjust any narative. Only Law had no connection to Tennessee. Dean worked for Tenn before becoming LV coach and Sharonna was born in Murfreesboro. Good graces has nothing to do with it. Two Tennessee connections out of the three.

I don't see a need to continue this back & forth. We just have different opinions.

 

[TNnative]

Regarding your first sentence, you're correct on 1 out of 3. I didn't say or mean Tenn alumni, it's connection to Tennessee in general.

You're annoyance about what I said regarding Pat's seat confirms my statement about Tenn nepotism is correct. You don't care if something might be a red flag to a potential coach, if that something is suggested by an outsider. If you want to limit your recruiting pool that's fine. I just gave my honest opinion.

I just read three of your posts, and can't find a correct thing you said in any of them.

As to any new coaches feeling intimidated by an empty chair for Pat Summitt realize this; Before Pat came along, women's basketball was nothing. It was just something the universities had as an after thought, to allow women to feel a part of athletics. Pat made it self sustaining, viable, and marketable. Not just at Tennessee, but nationwide.

When Pat came here, the Lady Vols were relegated to playing in the old alumni gym next to Neyland Stadium. Now her name is on the court at TBA. If a coach has some screwed up feelings because of a symbolic gesture, that coach might not have a job if it weren't for Pat.

Since there are Ladies present, I will avoid lacing my opinion of your opinion with profanity. However, if it were ever appropriate, this would be the occasion. Red flag? You are out of your gourd.

 

[TNnative]

I have followed your "work" here on VN in this and other forums. You obviously spend a lot of time watching and messaging about Tennessee sports.

If anyone read the Holly comments by certain members on here, then one might think Holly had publicly shamed the University. I mean, her results are there in black & white for all to see. And for some it's been a slam fest from the first moment she was announced.

Again, my point is that to most anyone not unduly negative, Holly's entire body of work is worthy of continuing to coach. Did you listen to Gary Blair say they would erect a statue to him if he had Holly's results?

Anyway, I know I'm not going to change your mind. Hope you enjoy your evening. Post on!

Yeah, I have heard plenty of coaches support her. Many right after they have beaten her. And I give that all the regard it is due. All I know for sure is the recent results have been a far cry from the standard Pat set. And it doesn't matter who's mind is or is not changed. What matters is getting this program back to where it belongs.

Oh, and they have erected Gary Blair statues. They are called yard gnomes.

 

[Besti]

I just read three of your posts, and can't find a correct thing you said in any of them.

As to any new coaches feeling intimidated by an empty chair for Pat Summitt realize this; Before Pat came along, women's basketball was nothing. It was just something the universities had as an after thought, to allow women to feel a part of athletics. Pat made it self sustaining, viable, and marketable. Not just at Tennessee, but nationwide.

When Pat came here, the Lady Vols were relegated to playing in the old alumni gym next to Neyland Stadium. Now her name is on the court at TBA. If a coach has some screwed up feelings because of a symbolic gesture, that coach might not have a job if it weren't for Pat.

Since there are Ladies present, I will avoid lacing my opinion of your opinion with profanity. However, if it were ever appropriate, this would be the occasion. Red flag? You are out of your gourd.

Not sure why you are giving a lecture on Pat's greatness. I wasn't critical of her. My point is every new coach that comes in will be compared with Pat by the fans. Look at all the criticism of Holly, and she's an insider. Fans are using Pat as a benchmark for what a coach needs to be. Holly's record isn't bad, but head coaches with a much worse record don't get as much flak. The chair is a representation of the fans attitude, it's not the chair itself. I said that not knowing know it was just a 1 season exhibit, which I have no argument with.

Would you like to come in as head coach and be expected to immediately bring the team to the top? Face it, the odds of getting another Pat are not good. Constant comparison to what Pat would have done is not helpful. People have transferred what Pat has done to UT,s accomplishment. All the "we are Tennessee" talk neglects the fact that it was Pat who made the program, but Pat is gone.

 

[Besti]

Yeah, I have heard plenty of coaches support her. Many right after they have beaten her. And I give that all the regard it is due. All I know for sure is the recent results have been a far cry from the standard Pat set. And it doesn't matter who's mind is or is not changed. What matters is getting this program back to where it belongs.

Oh, and they have erected Gary Blair statues. They are called yard gnomes.

To you it's OK to insult Gary Blair?

Why do you think Tennessee "belongs" at the top? The top has to be earned. Pat earned it. Every team is striving to be the best. It doesn't happen based on the past. That current fan expectations are unrealistic. Just look at what other teams are doing lately.

 

[TNnative]

To you it's OK to insult Gary Blair?

Why do you think Tennessee "belongs" at the top? The top has to be earned. Pat earned it. Every team is striving to be the best. It doesn't happen based on the past. That current fan expectations are unrealistic. Just look at what other teams are doing lately.

Housekeeper or Hairdresser? I think I know who the other is.

If Gary Blair is a barber from Clinton or a short order cook at a local waffle house, I will listen to him about the Lady Vols. But if you mean Gary Blair, the head coach at Texas A&M? Pat never needed a rival coach to take up for her. Why should any Tennessee fan give a (insert profanity laced tirade) about what his opinion is?

You finally said three truthful words; Pat earned it. But you are twenty tons of dumb to think what other teams are doing lately is anything any Lady Vols fan should give a damn about. We are Tennessee. To Hell with the other teams.

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

Not sure why you are giving a lecture on Pat's greatness. I wasn't critical of her. My point is every new coach that comes in will be compared with Pat by the fans. Look at all the criticism of Holly, and she's an insider. Fans are using Pat as a benchmark for what a coach needs to be. Holly's record isn't bad, but head coaches with a much worse record don't get as much flak. The chair is a representation of the fans attitude, it's not the chair itself. I said that not knowing know it was just a 1 season exhibit, which I have no argument with.

Would you like to come in as head coach and be expected to immediately bring the team to the top? Face it, the odds of getting another Pat are not good. Constant comparison to what Pat would have done is not helpful. People have transferred what Pat has done to UT,s accomplishment. All the "we are Tennessee" talk neglects the fact that it was Pat who made the program, but Pat is gone.

It may not feel good but you don't think Geno's replacements or even Muffet's, Mulkeys, Brenda's, Tara's replacement will go through the same expectation? They will be compared to the greatest when they are replaced for whatever reason? Think about Coach K at Duke... if he was lost due to illness and Duke wanted to honor him permanently the replacement probably would not have to have a problem with it or being compared to it. It is just a natural thing because they are replacing one of the greats! I agree with nothing being given and everything being earned because that is what the great ones teach you don't expect for anyone to hand you something you go and take it! Pat is gone doesn't mean you ever forget her. You take the values and principals that made the team and continue on while also implementing your own things into the program. The reason Roy Williams doesn't get compared to Dean Smith at UNC is because he wins. Winnning cures a lot of things. But if you listen to interviews Dean Smith is still brought up and things are asked like what would he do or think or how wouldnDean Smith be proud of etc.... just something that is never going to go away. Shoot they compare commentators when they are lost to illness !

 

[SandyO]

Welp. I'm sorry to see the young lady leave because she is tough. She is mentally and physically tough. Sorry Nared, can't see Cooper in a fight. lol ijs We lost one of our most competitive players on the roster. She will be a great guard. Sue Bird called her the next point guard of the generation, with her strength and size. Goodluck Cooper.

Yes, I do not like the double standard displayed here, like Madtownvol mentioned, if would've been two male basketball players, we'd all be laughing, I mean as teammates you fight, you make up, its an emotional ride to be the best, and you challenge each other, I like the fact that Nared didn't back down but not renew Te'a scholarship over a fight between teammates, is.... ???? No one took this out of Holly's hand, this was her decision.

Cooper you will be missed. Nared, its your team now! Let's see what you got young lady. Holly, its your team, all eyes are on you. We are pulling for you cos I think you chose chemistry vs talent, and its evident our ladies didn't really like playing basketball with each other all time, so if that fixes that fine. What's a lil fight among teammates? I bet all the players left, all breathe a sigh of relief... chemistry is important.

And that slip up with emoji, was pretty much summed up her experience coaching Diamond! lol

I back Pat, and roll with Holly!

U certainly think more of TC than I do. I don't see it. She is all about herself and dawn staley will have a year to see her in action before she ever hits the court. She and DD have proven what their character is.

 

[Amb3096]

U certainly think more of TC than I do. I don't see it. She is all about herself and dawn staley will have a year to see her in action before she ever hits the court. She and DD have proven what their character is.

It seems that people's opinions of Te'a's ability as a player have taken a hit because of her departure. It's gone from how good Tennessee will be with her back as the starting PG to "good riddance, you svcked anyway".

I think Dawn will be fine dealing with Te'a. It's not like she's unknown to her, and she's aware of the circumstances surrounding her leaving Tennessee. SC also has the benefit of having a number of quality players on the roster who play the same position as Te'a, so if she acts up, I have no doubt that Dawn will show her where the door is.

If the manner in which Diamond left the team is accurate as the "insiders" here are saying, it appears that it's less about her having poor character and more about not being able to act maturely when she's angry. Those were the actions of an angry person, and I'm sure none of us are so perfect that we never did anything we regretted because we were angry.

 

[T_Vol376]

U certainly think more of TC than I do. I don't see it. She is all about herself and dawn staley will have a year to see her in action before she ever hits the court. She and DD have proven what their character is.

We don't agree on some things, SO, but we do on TC... and I am not speaking of her playing ability, but her character. She and DD are lacking in this department.

And another thing... P4L is underestimating Jaime. Just because she doesn't post videos of herself prissing around, squealing, and acting like a freakshow on social media does not mean she can't dish out an ass-whippin'. She is much tougher than you think, P4L. I'm not saying she did or she didn't, but I personally hope she ripped every last shred of that weave out of TC's head.

Peace out.... ✌🏻Go Lady Vols! 💙🍊🏀

 

[Amb3096]

I personally hope she ripped every last shred of that weave out of TC's head.

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

I don't recall if Te'a wore a weave while playing, but that one she had on her bio picture was not a good look for her, IMO.

On a side note, It's been nearly 20 years since Lauren Jackson inadvertently scalped Lisa Leslie during a basketball game, but the weaves are still aplenty. I'm personally shocked that Anriel Howard from TAMU hasn't gotten scalped at least once per game.

 

[T_Vol376]

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

I don't recall if Te'a wore a weave while playing, but that one she had on her bio picture was not a good look for her, IMO.

On a side note, It's been nearly 20 years since Lauren Jackson inadvertently scalped Lisa Leslie during a basketball game, but the weaves are still aplenty. I'm personally shocked that Anriel Howard from TAMU hasn't gotten scalped at least once per game.

I had to say it.... I don't know if she wore a weave while playing either, but last year she had one that was loooooong.

 

[Besti]

Housekeeper or Hairdresser? I think I know who the other is.

If Gary Blair is a barber from Clinton or a short order cook at a local waffle house, I will listen to him about the Lady Vols. But if you mean Gary Blair, the head coach at Texas A&M? Pat never needed a rival coach to take up for her. Why should any Tennessee fan give a (insert profanity laced tirade) about what his opinion is?

You finally said three truthful words; Pat earned it. But you are twenty tons of dumb to think what other teams are doing lately is anything any Lady Vols fan should give a damn about. We are Tennessee. To Hell with the other teams.

Plenty of waffling going on around here, particularly in the British sense.

Sounds like you are OK with being beat by those other teams. Many people here seem concerned. BTW, what exactly does "We are Tennessee" mean?

I hope not all LVs are as insular as you appear to be.

My BMI is 22.9 kg/m square, so I'm probably not carrying around any pounds of dumb.

 

[Ladyvolfan4ever]

Plenty of waffling going on around here, particularly in the British sense.

Sounds like you are OK with being beat by those other teams. Many people here seem concerned. BTW, what exactly does "We are Tennessee" mean?

I hope not all LVs are as insular as you appear to be.

My BMI is 22.9 kg/m square, so I'm probably not carrying around any pounds of dumb.

Your BMI is very good and we are very happy for you. But what in the h3// are you talking about. WE ARE TENNESSEE of course we are. You are on a Tennessee board you know DUH

 

[Besti]

Your BMI is very good and we are very happy for you. But what in the h3// are you talking about. WE ARE TENNESSEE of course we are. You are on a Tennessee board you know DUH

That this is a Tennessee board is obvious, but why announce it? I don't think he/she meant, "we are Tennessee because we are Tennessee." There must be some other reason for saying that.