Well its all over basically except for one.

[OHvol40]

Staff grade? F-

Class grade? D+ if we get Brown, D- if we don't.

Say what you want, make every excuse you want but these guys were billed as the recruiters from top to bottom. They were supposedly so great at recruiting that it was supposed to be an "unfair advantage" according to some.


I guess they are good at selling something, themselves cause they sure did take a top 5 class and turn it into a huge failure.


I would say Kiffin fell flat on his face.

Worst, most naive post of the day. :crazy:

 

[UTvol1fn]

this entire thread needs to be deleted.

 

[mcompton]

Staff grade? F-

Class grade? D+ if we get Brown, D- if we don't.

Say what you want, make every excuse you want but these guys were billed as the recruiters from top to bottom. They were supposedly so great at recruiting that it was supposed to be an "unfair advantage" according to some.


I guess they are good at selling something, themselves cause they sure did take a top 5 class and turn it into a huge failure.

I would say Kiffin fell flat on his face.

WOW...you need to get a grip...this staff had 2 months to pull recruits away from other schools that had built relationships for as long as 2 yrs...I'd say they did as well as could be expected...other advice: get over Fulmer, he's not here any longer

 

[DovaVol]

Staff grade? F-

Class grade? D+ if we get Brown, D- if we don't.

Say what you want, make every excuse you want but these guys were billed as the recruiters from top to bottom. They were supposedly so great at recruiting that it was supposed to be an "unfair advantage" according to some.


I guess they are good at selling something, themselves cause they sure did take a top 5 class and turn it into a huge failure.


I would say Kiffin fell flat on his face.

are you serious? I guess you think we're National Championship bound too. Think realistically for just one second here man. These coaches have had at most two months to talk to these kids and get to know them. The mere fact that they even got in the door and got some of them to come to campus for a visit is a statement in itself. They were going against other staffs that have recruited these players since they were sophmores and juniors in high school. That's relationships built up over two and in some cases three years that they had to overcome in two months. Not to mention the bridges burned by the old regime that they had to put back together(Teague).

You win for worst post of the day

 

[Big Orange Junky]

Well it's simple. Before Fulmer was fired we had a top 5 class according to the same recruiting sources that now have us 10th in the SEC.

All we heard the entire time was how great and awesome these guys were at recruiting.

So what did we get? Very little, lost the best two WR of the prospective class, lost DT's, OL, RB. We lost way more than we "picked up".

Recruiting isn't just about stars, it's about needs. We lost the most recruits where we needed them the most (the lines).

I busted Fulmer for his screw ups, and I won't pull any punches from Kiffin either. Recruiting was supposed to be this groups ace in the hole.

Definately all hype and no action.

 

[orangesox]

Staff grade? F-

Class grade? D+ if we get Brown, D- if we don't.

Say what you want, make every excuse you want but these guys were billed as the recruiters from top to bottom. They were supposedly so great at recruiting that it was supposed to be an "unfair advantage" according to some.


I guess they are good at selling something, themselves cause they sure did take a top 5 class and turn it into a huge failure.


I would say Kiffin fell flat on his face.

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[BillyHoyleVol]

Staff grade? F-

Class grade? D+ if we get Brown, D- if we don't.

Say what you want, make every excuse you want but these guys were billed as the recruiters from top to bottom. They were supposedly so great at recruiting that it was supposed to be an "unfair advantage" according to some.


I guess they are good at selling something, themselves cause they sure did take a top 5 class and turn it into a huge failure.


I would say Kiffin fell flat on his face.

Wow...this shows how out of touch with the whole process you are. When was this class top 5? You can be the Jesus H. Christ of recruiting and still not pull in...or even hold onto every major prospect out there. Now, stop and figure that this staff had 2 months to raise the bar....all the while having the stinch of Fulmer and a horrid season lingering around.

You, my friend, appear to be the failure. You're the kind of dude that looks at the surface and sees no 5*s and assumes we've bombed.

Nevermind the fact that we've taken two playmakers away from the defending NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! Do me a favor: from now on, if you're clueless as to how something works, keep your opinion to yourself.

You Debbi Downers kill me!

 

[NashvilleUTVol]

B+ Defensively - 2 more good D line prospects and this would of been an A+. LBs and backfield look great.
D- Offensively - Lack of Linemen, Rbs, QB If not for the receivers this would be an F.

Hope for lots better next year.

 

[DovaVol]

Well it's simple. Before Fulmer was fired we had a top 5 class according to the same recruiting sources that now have us 10th in the SEC.

All we heard the entire time was how great and awesome these guys were at recruiting.

So what did we get? Very little, lost the best two WR of the prospective class, lost DT's, OL, RB. We lost way more than we "picked up".

Recruiting isn't just about stars, it's about needs. We lost the most recruits where we needed them the most (the lines).

I busted Fulmer for his screw ups, and I won't pull any punches from Kiffin either. Recruiting was supposed to be this groups ace in the hole.

Definately all hype and no action.

This statement sums up the last 4 years of TN football under Fulmer. Those top 5-10 recruiting classes he had in the past few years really worked out well didn't they...

 

[Sudden Impact]

I cannot image how bad this day would have been with CPF and staff. Headed down the hill. This class will be one to build on and we need to bite the bullet now with the coaching change and recruiting. Have patience.. we not only have recruiters on staff now but we have great coaches on staff. This is not a great class but it is a very solid class.

 

[Big Orange Junky]

Gotta LMAO, this is the same bunch that drank the kool-aide so much they coined the term "clawfense" and gushed all year last year about how GREAT the offense was going to be.

Reality is reality. They were hyped up to do great things, be a tornado on the recruiting trail, and ended up being a popcorn fart.

 

[JSS Nashville]

I laugh at these fools who are quick to judge & quick to trash this class or our Coaches. If you've watched any coverage on ESPNU or read anything over the last few weeks, you'll see nothing but praise for the job UT did this year & the Extremely Bright future for UT recruiting! Given the short time they had, I'm happy with what we got!
If you look back over the 'stars' or 'rankings' these 17 yr old kids get years later, it proves to be very inconsistent. SO HAVE FAITH in the direction our coaches (which are the BEST at what they do in the Country)!

GO VOLS!

 

[volmanbill]

Considering the state of the program and the amount of time the current staff has been in place we did just fine. I don't believe that CLK and company are as far out there as some here suggest.

Let me ask you this...

Where would we be right now if we still had CPF or any other HC and staff? We have assembled what is regarded as a premier recruiting staff in CFB. Give them a chance.

 

[emainvol]

When taking the situation into account, this is a very good class. Everyone saying that this class is poor is out of his/her mind.

 

[VolSwaff]

Well it's simple. Before Fulmer was fired

I stopped reading after this point. I completely understand your stance now. Sorry your boy was fired for being a loser that no longer could adjust his coaching staff to fit his ego.

Fulmer might have landed a big class this year but it would never again translate into wins. Most of the big name guys that he would sign would have played behind the Wes Brown's on the roster.

 

[VolSwaff]

When taking the situation into account, this is a very good class. Everyone saying that this class is poor is out of his/her mind.

Excellent post. This is the truth. This isn't NCAA'09 and you can't recruit a guy and expect him to commit in a few weeks when other schools have been in contact with him for over a year.

 

[BillyHoyleVol]

Well it's simple. Before Fulmer was fired we had a top 5 class according to the same recruiting sources that now have us 10th in the SEC.

All we heard the entire time was how great and awesome these guys were at recruiting.

So what did we get? Very little, lost the best two WR of the prospective class, lost DT's, OL, RB. We lost way more than we "picked up".

Recruiting isn't just about stars, it's about needs. We lost the most recruits where we needed them the most (the lines).

I busted Fulmer for his screw ups, and I won't pull any punches from Kiffin either. Recruiting was supposed to be this groups ace in the hole.

Definately all hype and no action.

No...we didn't have a top 5 recruiting class...FAIL!

Ever heard the phrase: "Rome wasn't built in a day"

Well, the staff can't recruit an army in two months.

Sorry, bro...just how it works. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

 

[ptclaus98]

I like that the chick is wearing the Tennessee hat.

 

[DovaVol]

Gotta LMAO, this is the same bunch that drank the kool-aide so much they coined the term "clawfense" and gushed all year last year about how GREAT the offense was.

Reality is reality. They were hyped up to do great things, be a tornado on the recruiting trail, and ended up being a popcorn fart.

Sounds like you had too much of the koolaid Fulmer was handing out yourself.

Guess you haven't followed the recruiting and where the new staff has been on here. If you had you'd know they've been a "tornado on the recruiting trail". You'd realize that their efforts on the recruiting trail got us in the door with players like Sam Montgomery, Tana Patrick, Alshon Jefferey, Kendal Kelly, Eddie Lacy, etc. These same players didn't even mention us with the previous staff. It's the fact that this new staff has been on the road recruiting(or to use a phrase from your FUlmer vocab-"working like heck") non-stop that even got us a look from these kids.

 

[vol4life14]

Staff grade? F-

Class grade? D+ if we get Brown, D- if we don't.

Say what you want, make every excuse you want but these guys were billed as the recruiters from top to bottom. They were supposedly so great at recruiting that it was supposed to be an "unfair advantage" according to some.


I guess they are good at selling something, themselves cause they sure did take a top 5 class and turn it into a huge failure.


I would say Kiffin fell flat on his face.

i agree with you on the part fulmer prolly would of pulled in a top 10 class but we have all seen what a top class has gotten us in the past years which has been nothing but pain... this staff has done a hell of a job getting players to visit and i am happy ith what we have done today...now c'mon marlon come to ut kid

 

[Big Orange Junky]

I stopped reading after this point. I completely understand your stance now. Sorry your boy was fired for being a loser that no longer could adjust his coaching staff to fit his ego.

Fulmer might have landed a big class this year but it would never again translate into wins. Most of the big name guys that he would sign would have played behind the Wes Brown's on the roster.

He wasn't "my boy" I was an outspoken critic of him too, but at the same time I ain't cuttin wonderboy any slack either.

Whether I like someone or not has nothing to do with how I assess the job they did.

Results are results, and so far Kiffins results are subpar.

I do hope he does a better job of evaluating the talent, having fewer recruiting busts, and adjusting to the talent he has than Fulmer did, but that is yet to be seen as well.

 

[utmba93]

If Brown commits, this is a great start for Kiffin & company. If he doesn't, it's a good start.

If Brown and Oku commit, it's an excellent start.

This was one tough recruiting task to pull off concurrently with the transition our new staff confronts with changing the culture of our program to demand more from its players.

 

[VOL RN]

yeah...pretty much a done deal now...

 

[VolDC]

Staff grade? F-

Class grade? D+ if we get Brown, D- if we don't.

Say what you want, make every excuse you want but these guys were billed as the recruiters from top to bottom. They were supposedly so great at recruiting that it was supposed to be an "unfair advantage" according to some.


I guess they are good at selling something, themselves cause they sure did take a top 5 class and turn it into a huge failure.


I would say Kiffin fell flat on his face.

At what point were we even close to the top 5? I guess your referring to early last summer. Your an idiot if you don't think that the 5-7, and a two month recruiting effort had anything to do with it. All the big time DL and OL prospects were pretty much locks by the time kiffin was hired. the fact that we were able to get in with the remaining ones is respectable. the only loss will be brown.

 

[Jack Burton]

Stole 2 from UF, that's a good thing. We'll be dropping some Nuke's, get it? See what I did there?