Well positioned even with a close loss?

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Jax_Vol said:
As much as I hate Alabama, Coach Saban is the greatest coach ever in the game of college football. For all the decades and great players that he has had, they have never accomplished your wish of 15-0. Never, zilch, nothing.

Shall we also assume that your poop does not stink?
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Not sure why we’d assume that, or why your interested. Says far more about you than it does me though.

15-0 is always the goal, however unlikely. But we can win the conference at this point without being undefeated…but we still have to beat Georgia to do it.

I get it…you want a short cut. You’re from the cheat-code generation. That’s fine. But nothing replaces winning the SEC for bragging rights against those you face every year.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Not sure why we’d assume that, or why your interested. Says far more about you than it does me though.

15-0 is always the goal, however unlikely. But we can win the conference at this point without being undefeated…but we still have to beat Georgia to do it.

I get it…you want a short cut. You’re from the cheat-code generation. That’s fine. But nothing replaces winning the SEC for bragging rights against those you face every year.
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Nick Saban is like 98 years old, been coaching his whole life, most consider him to be above average at this profession.

But, by your standards, since he has never won 15 games....not good enough for you.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Nick Saban is like 98 years old, been coaching his whole life, most consider him to be above average at this profession.

But, by your standards, since he has never won 15 games....not good enough for you.
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Again…not what I said, but you know that already. My point has been purely and only about the importance of the conference championship to me…which can be won without being undefeated. You brought up 15-0, for some reason.

I’ll state it again, and type really slowly so you can keep up…being undefeated at the end of the season is everyone’s goal. Few achieve it. It does not diminish achieving the other goals (division, conference, playoff, and natty) along the way.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Again…not what I said, but you know that already. My point has been purely and only about the importance of the conference championship to me…which can be won without being undefeated. You brought up 15-0, for some reason.

I’ll state it again, and type really slowly so you can keep up…being undefeated at the end of the season is everyone’s goal. Few achieve it. It does not diminish achieving the other goals (division, conference, playoff, and natty) along the way.
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Are you the guy who ran Gary Rankin out of town because he wasn't winning enough at Riverdale?
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Are you the guy who ran Gary Rankin out of town because he wasn't winning enough at Riverdale?
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LOL….no. I haven’t lived in Murfreesboro in over a decade. My kids graduated from Hardin Valley.

Again…when have I said anything about anybody not winning enough? Can you point to that assertion?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
First off there is no guarantee than Bama beats LSU. I know most expect them to but not many thought we would beat Bama but it happened. Brian Kelly is a better coach than many think. I could easily see him beating Saban. Now on to the playoffs. Here is the problem with us getting in with one loss.

So Clemson will win the ACC easily. That’s one spot. The SEC champ gets one spot. TCU has already beaten their biggest threat KS. There is a real good possibility they go undefeated and win the B12. That’s another spot. So now that’s one spot left. You have to let the B10 champion in.

So in reality unless we win the SEC, there rally isn’t a path for us to make the CFP.
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TCU still has to play UTjr and has a few other games that could be “any given Saturday” situations. I’d say it’s a coin flip whether they win out or not.
 
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Here's the thing, beat UGA, finish off your season and go the SECCG undefeated and lose to Bama. (Provided Bama beats an LSU team that is coming together of late). Now you have Bama, GA, UT all with one loss. And only four playoff spots. Who's left out? If you get in, and Bama gets in that's potentially 3 games against Bama in the same season. Who wants that? But, no CFP will have 3 SEC teams. Only TWO CFP's have had Two SEC teams thus far. If UT beats UGA saturday, we absolutley have to beat Bama again in the SECCG. The only relief would be LSU winning saturday. If Bama loses to UT and LSU both, they are done in the CFP this year.

Beat UGA, beat Bama, and you in the CFP with the probability of facing UGA again.

Lose to UGA, and get dropped from the CFP cause you didn't run the table. Then everyone else wins cause no one has to play us in the CFP. Not alot of competition outside the SEC to manage our team speed.
 
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Agree a lot with the OPs synopsis however, this team has learned quickly how to win and just as quickly have jettisoned losing as an option. I think we gut it out in a close one and our pass rush will make life hell for Bennett on Saturday.
 
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If we lose, we'll need Georgia to win out. I think that part should be easy enough. Then we'll need either Clemson or TCU to lose a game. Then you have to hope the committee will take you over a 1 loss Big 10 team, or a 1 loss Big12/ACC champion. I think that part is also simple enough given our resume.

If all of that happens, it would be:
1: Georgia
2: Undefeated B1G team
3: Undefeated ACC/Big 12 conference champion
4: Tennessee

Then 5: 1 loss conference champion from ACC/Big 12/ PAC12 and 6: 1 loss B1G team.

That's how I see it shaking out. I don't see them putting in a 1 loss conference champion over us at this point. If there's 4 Undefeated conference champions then they'll be in the playoffs.
 
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I think SEC fatigue is real and it's going to take some help to get two teams in. For the loser of this game to have a chance, the game must be close, the winner must win the SECCG and two of the following must happen:

- TCU loses
- Both Oregon and the Southern Cal/UCLA winner take another loss
- Clemson loses badly in one of their final four games or loses the ACCCG. I think Clemson could get in with a close regular season loss based on recency bias.

I could potentially see a scenario where UT loses to undefeated SEC champion Georgia and Ohio State loses close to undefeated Big 10 champion Michigan but there is great clamor and pressure in the media to take Georgia, Michigan, and Ohio State.
 
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As I posted in another thread, if we lose to UGA, Bama makes it to the SECCG and UGA beats them there, we're probably in. There are a lot of games left to be played by several teams. Just win until you don't and we'll see where we're at.
 
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I think an 11-1 Tennessee team that doesn't even play in the conference game has no shot at all. A 12-1 SECCG loser might, depending on how others fair.
 
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Palmetto_Exiled said:
I think SEC fatigue is real and it's going to take some help to get two teams in. For the loser of this game to have a chance, the game must be close, the winner must win the SECCG and two of the following must happen:

- TCU loses
- Both Oregon and the Southern Cal/UCLA winner take another loss
- Clemson loses badly in one of their final four games or loses the ACCCG. I think Clemson could get in with a close regular season loss based on recency bias.

I could potentially see a scenario where UT loses to undefeated SEC champion Georgia and Ohio State loses close to undefeated Big 10 champion Michigan but there is great clamor and pressure in the media to take Georgia, Michigan, and Ohio State.
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No way does the loser of the Ohio St/Michigan game get in after they lost what would be their ONLY top game on the schedule.
 
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I think if this game is close the loser is probably in. In fact if Tennessee wins they get to play Bama and Georgia twice most likely. Bama in conference title and Georgia in the playoffs. As long as it’s close both of these teams have a good shot of getting in. Personally I think the top three teams in college football are in the conference.
 
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FBtime said:
No way does the loser of the Ohio St/Michigan game get in after they lost what would be their ONLY top game on the schedule.
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I agree that they shouldn't but I think there would be a lot in the media who would try to make it happen. "It's only fair, and isn't America tired of having two SEC teams every year?"
 
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JoAllan said:
With a close loss someone needs to lose.

However that’s for Georgia to worry about.
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The SEC championships guarantees someone will lose. That's what the OP was saying. If we lost by 3 points to GA, and they beat Bama, we are a lock over Clemson, TCU, etc. The other conferences won't like it, but we are the most popular team in the country now among non-committed fans. The game this weekend will be the biggest regular season in five years from a ratings perspective. Every network and every bowl wants us. Hard to believe after being the pariah of the FBS for a decade.
 
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We can lose one close one, but Alabama has to lose again. We’re ahead of TCU and Clemson. Each would have 2+ losses with our schedule.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
Here is reality. If we lose, Alabama has to lose again. The SEC ain’t getting 3 playoff teams and you know the SEC and ESPN want Alabama in the playoff again.

Big Ten Winner and Clemson get in. And if TCU keeps winning, the SECCG loser may also get left out.

So no, we aren’t well positioned with an L ☹️.
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If we lose, we need a team we lost to to beat a team we beat which should slot us into the playoff. Before the season, we were debating heavily on if we could break 8 wins. I'd say even with a loss we're in a better position than all but about 5 other teams in the country. That is a very good position.
 
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Orangepantsforever said:
We can lose one close one, but Alabama has to lose again. We’re ahead of TCU and Clemson. Each would have 2+ losses with our schedule.
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If Clemson and TCU run the table, a 1 loss SEC team is in trouble. I expect the Big 10 to send UM or OSU, and the Pac-X has no chance That leaves TCU and Clemson with shots. If either gets 1 loss, they're done, but undefeated puts them in easily.
 
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