We're not going to fire Jeff Fisher either!

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droski said:
even great coaches (which i'd argue fisher isn't) can wear on a team after a long enough time. i think the titans clearly need fresh blood.
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This is so true, but I don't think in this case. I was beginning to think that up until '07, but we made a resurgence. We're still the same team that had the best record last year. I do think that Fisher will perform better at a smaller market instead of a bigger market place. If he is let go, he'll be snatched up really quick and if the stars align, he'll go to a team that will let him have the resources and control to get his team.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Isn't this what Fulmer apologists were saying? I'm not saying the situations are the same by any means, but I don't think they would have a problem filling the job with a capable coach.
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I dunno, but some of them probably did. I was going more for this, what the ESPN AFC SOUTH blogger was talking about in his mailbag section:

Mailbag: On firing a coach, recognizing small schools - AFC South - ESPN

Brad Meyers via Facebook writes: I was really disappointed in you on the radio this morning. When the caller called for a coaching change [with Jeff Fisher] you brought out the old trusted "who are you going to get that's better" line? Come on PK. You are better than that. Is it not even a debatable issue? Forget about how likely you think it is to happen. Who knows what going on in Bud's head these days. Is Fisher a safe and solid coach? Sure he is. But the goal is to win a superbowl. We've had two windows and haven't gotten it done, and now it looks like we are going to have to wait at least a couple more years for another realistic shot. I think talking about whether or not the time has come to step outside the box a little and take a risk isn't crazy. Just because no one thinks it's likely to happen doesn't mean it can't be talked about. I just wish the media would at least be willing to broach the subject without sounding like it's "crazy talk". I was the first to claim that it was crazy talk in the past, but since we have gone 3-8 in the last 11 with the players we have on this team, not anymore.

Paul Kuharsky: I don't think it's crazy. But anytime people call for a coach's head I ask "Who's better." And no one is naming a name for Fisher, no one is saying "We need the young offensive coordinator from wherever or the guy from State, he's just the sort of guy who could change things in the right way." They are saying "Things are bad, I want change."

Sorry, but I am not a proponent of change for change's sake. The guy is a highly respected coach, an excellent clock manager and a guy who's generally gotten a lot out of his teams. He's not doing that here, but I'm not willing to say that means he has to go. He's officially a playoff underachiever after last season, yes.

So is virtually every coach in the league right now not named Belichick, Tomlin, Coughlin or Reid, and Reid's hardly a home-run hitter.

It's a stay-the-course organization, I don't expect change and I don't know that it's the answer. Sorry if you don't like that answer.
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#55
the difference is fisher ain't the problem with the titans

he's did more with the least than any coach could hope for,fulmer usually underachieved(especially towards the end) but if anything fisher has overachieved with what he's had

with the losses in the defensive area what do you expect...i expect a 1 year DC
 
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westsidefan said:
the difference is fisher ain't the problem with the titans

he's did more with the least than any coach could hope for,fulmer usually underachieved(especially towards the end) but if anything fisher has overachieved with what he's had

with the losses in the defensive area what do you expect...i expect a 1 year DC
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I agree. They should fire the owner. Insisting on Vince Young as a number one pick was absurd.
 
#60
#60
he's won about 20 more than he's lost. he is not all that, I say let him go and give it a roll with someone else.
 
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The only way Fisher is gone after this year is maybe an 0-16 season, which isn't likely, but it would be hard for any coach to survive that; or if he royally ticks off Bud Adams. Fisher is Adams' guy, so the only way he's probably going to be fired is if he and Adams have major disagreements about the direction of the team.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
In this morning's Tennessean, he was quoted as saying "We didn't forget how to coach overnight". Sound familiar to anyone?
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This Titan situation has become a nightmare to me and all of the fans. Hard to be the laughing stock. It is hard to keep hearing Fisher not get angry. Something has got to happen this bye week. Like the Sopranos said, "Pick somebody over there!" Pick some coach or some position player to make an example of.

No more excuses. He does sound a lil like our old Coach Phil
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The only way Fisher is gone after this year is maybe an 0-16 season, which isn't likely
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At this point, who do you see on the schedule that you expect the Titans to beat? Maybe St. Louis or Seattle. Hard to go 0-16 but the Titans appear like they're going to make a go of it. Is 1-15 or 2-14 that much better than 0-16?
 
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#66
The first guy to get cut should be Chuck Cecil. I would turn the defense over to McGinnis immediately even if Cecil retains the title of DC to spare him from embarrassment.

I would say the recent play should be embarrassing enough.
 
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No they probably won't fire Fisher. Sometimes i don't like his conservative nature though. We simply can't play Fisher ball with this group, it doesn't work when you don't have a defense to lean on. The thing that is disturbing is how it's getting worse from week to week. Fisher has been a good coach, but there comes a time when it's time to move on. Guys tune out the same tired message. Might be time for Jeff to move on, 15 years is unheard of in the NFL anyway.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
At this point, who do you see on the schedule that you expect the Titans to beat? Maybe St. Louis or Seattle. Hard to go 0-16 but the Titans appear like they're going to make a go of it. Is 1-15 or 2-14 that much better than 0-16?
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yes. yes they are.

you don't see plaques in the Pro Football Hall of Fame for the 2000 San Diego Chargers' 1-15 season do you?
 
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Wylo said:
how many playoff wins since 2003??? i thought so.. fire the stache....
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Yeah...realistically, every coach in the league right now not named Belichick, Tomlin, Coughlin or Reid is "poor playoff coach".....and Reid's debatable about whether or not he should be in that category
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Yep. As are the questions of "Who ya gonna git?" in reference to replacing him.
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I'm going to say it again? Who's better right now?

It's one thing when it was Fulmer - and we knew Fulmer was the major problem - and we were bringing up dozens and dozens of names and assistants - from Leach to Kiffin to numerous Head Coaches at smaller schools.

but no one's saying any other names in this case other than Bill Cowher and Mike Shanahan - which is the same as when we Vols fans said "Spurrier and Butch Davis"

No one's saying "oh this spunky new DC who's blitzes stop everyone" or "that college head coach who was tutored by Bellicheck" or "that spunky offensive coordinator from U or wherever" or any names at all. Noone's giving any suggestions except the "these guys already won championships and aren't coaching" examples

All that pretty much amounts to is the fan base whining "Things are bad; I want change."
 
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who expected last year's team to go 13-3 with that squad? no one. losing the 350 DT and the D coordinator obviously was a lot bigger than anyone thought it would be. this isn't fisher's fault. two rookie DBs starting, and WRs dropping everything isn't the head coaches fault.
 
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mrredskin said:
who expected last year's team to go 13-3 with that squad? no one. losing the 350 DT and the D coordinator obviously was a lot bigger than anyone thought it would be. this isn't fisher's fault. two rookie DBs starting, and WRs dropping everything isn't the head coaches fault.
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Substitute DT with QB and defensive coordinator with offensive, and that sounds like a very familiar excuse.

I think it may be naturally time for a change, for the benefit of both the Oilers and Fisher. Fisher has been with the team for a long time in a profession where even good employees rarely last longer than 8 or so years with one team or school. He'd have a job somewhere in 2010 is a move was made. Some new blood in Nashville may be for the best.
 
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The Dude said:
Substitute DT with QB and defensive coordinator with offensive, and that sounds like a very familiar excuse.

I think it may be naturally time for a change, for the benefit of both the Oilers and Fisher. Fisher has been with the team for a long time in a profession where even good employees rarely last longer than 8 or so years with one team or school. He'd have a job somewhere in 2010 is a move was made. Some new blood in Nashville may be for the best.
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I tend to agree with this line of thinking. Fisher has had a decent run (several playoff appearances, Super Bowl appearance, etc.) with this franchise, and I believe he'll be successful at his next stop wherever that might be... but, yeah, probably time for a change.

(Maybe he'll take Adams with him, too.)
 
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