Wes Moore Twitter Rumor

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TN1111 said:
Stop using wisdom on here... I understand the age thing, I really do, but Tennessee isn't a 3 or 4 year rebuilding job. The right coach starts winning immediately. Eight years out of someone like him would be better than another experiment. He's a great recruiter too. Did everybody think he was going to bring in McDonald's AA's at Chattanooga. He dominated while there.

At NC State he has one McDonald's AA on the way. He won ACC coach of the year in 2017 which NC state had never won in their 43-year history. He's one of 4 finalists for the Naismith Coach of the year this year. He's one of the few coaches that to me can do more with less. He beat Holly Warlick in her coaching debut, he's beaten McGraw and Walz too.

I of course would have Walz as my top choice but if that's something Tennessee can't pull off I believe Wes should certainly get a look along with some of the others mentioned.
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Again try to get a home run hire & if you strike out, go for the youngest SAFE hire.
 
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CWM and CRB are similar in a few ways. I would be thrilled.

But I won't hold my breath that they'll leave Raleigh.
 
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Rudy123 said:
True. However we had to get a good hire because the program slipped a little from Pearl to Counzo
Slipped again from Counzo to Tyndall
Barnes was a safe hire

Now, the program makes the NCAA each year so we need a hire to take us to next level. Long term
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JohnnyD1024 said:
Coach K is 72
Tom Izzo is 64
Roy William's is 68
Geno Auriemma is 65
Muffet McGraw is 63
Nick Saban is 67
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None of those coaches is a new hire at a program
I remember Coach K at Duke in 1990s
Izzy in 1990s at MSU
Roy Williams at UNC 10 years ago
Geno at UConn In 2000
McGraw at ND 10 years ago
Nick at OBama. 10 years ago
 
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Rudy123 said:
None of those coaches is a new hire at a program
I remember Coach K at Duke in 1990s
Izzy in 1990s at MSU
Roy Williams at UNC 10 years ago
Geno at UConn In 2000
McGraw at ND 10 years ago
Nick at OBama. 10 years ago
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I get your poiint, but you are way off with those years.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
No, Walz is 330-99 for .769, all at a power 5 school. The vast majority of Moore's wins have come at mid-major Chattanooga and lower level colleges, which is a completely different animal. The more relevant numbers come from his time at NC State which is 139-56 (.713), still good but a bit more modest. In his six years there he has never finished higher than 3rd in the ACC and never past the Sweet 16. Walz has three Final Fours (four if he wins tomorrow) including two National Runner-up's to UConn. Walz has proven he can build up and maintain a national power, and has consistently recruited at a high level. Moore has not. Walz, in addition to being more accomplished, is also significantly younger.

It isn't hard to decide who is the better fit at Tennessee. It isn't even close...
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We sure have some maroons as LV fans! Not everyone can start at a Power5 job, some actually have to prove their worth. So do I think Wes could recruit to UTC like Waltz has to UL? You would have to be dumber than a bag of rocks to think that, his recruiting budget at a UTC was lucky to be 50-60K, his recruiting budget at NC State is also less than that of a Waltz at UL, I mean Holly sure as heck signed some absolute stars and we saw how well that worked out, and paying him money less than Holly isn't an indictment on Wes, Waltz has used job after job to siphon money from UL for years, floating his name out there for every job in the country and UL was dumb enough to pay him what they pay him and we see they aren't very smart with their money and it's why the UL is in such financial peril. Now do I want Waltz at UT? Yes I would and he would probably be my first choice, as long as we aren't paying 1.5 million to him because he isn't worth anywhere close to that, the UL team doesn't make money and no way UT would make anywhere close to enough to pay him and also keep their recruiting budget where it is.
 
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I'm not too keen on Wes Moore...i hope the players will be good with him...it just seems like the iron is hot right now with Kelly [Jolly] Harper...if Phil hires him, I hope he proves me wrong...go LVFLs
 
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If Kara is hired, I may have to quit my job and become a full-time Lady Vol game junkie, making attending every home AND road game my new vocation and RFL.

Even with no bigtime coaching experience, I am more certain that she’d turn the program around in short order than I have been of anything else ever.

And go ahead and feel free to laugh at me for expressing this opinion. It’s mine and there’s nothing you can do about it! *stomping my feet with clenched fists and a furrowed brow* lol

Really, I just want Phil to do a comprehensive search and to reach out to others who are more knowledgable — someone like Lawson, for example — for solid advice about who would or wouldn’t be a good fit for Tennessee. Phil has always been a fan of women’s basketball, but I doubt that he personally knows many of the coaches who might be candidates. I hope he seeks wise, hopefully unbiased, counsel.

Stll love Hammon, too. While Moore is a fine man and coach, I’d kinda like to see Phil make a “sexier” choice. Not sexy as in “physically attractive,” but sexy as in the type of coach that today’s social media-loving young people would think is kinda cool and famous and possibly even be not too old or have anything about them that their friends could make fun of. It certainly wouldn’t HURT recruiting to have someone like Kara or Becky Hammon at the helm!

Take your time, Phil! We’re impatient, but we’ll wait as long as we need to for you to land the right coach!

P.S. Kellie’s team sure did give Stanford a heckuva game, didn’t they?
 
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lvocd said:
If Kara is hired, I may have to quit my job and become a full-time Lady Vol game junkie, making attending every home AND road game my new vocation and RFL.

Even with no bigtime coaching experience, I am more certain that she’d turn the program around in short order than I have been of anything else ever.

And go ahead and feel free to laugh at me for expressing this opinion. It’s mine and there’s nothing you can do about it! *stomping my feet with clenched fists and a furrowed brow* lol

Really, I just want Phil to do a comprehensive search and to reach out to others who are more knowledgable — someone like Lawson, for example — for solid advice about who would or wouldn’t be be a good fit for Tennessee. Phil has always been a fan of women’s basketball, but I doubt that he personally knows many of the coaches who might be candidates. I hope he seeks wise, hopefully unbiased, counsel.

Stll love Hammon, too. While Moore is a fine man and coach, I’d kinda like to see Phil make a “sexier” choice. Not sexy as in “physically attractive,” but sexy as in the type of coach that today’s social media-loving young people would think is kinda cool and famous and possibly even be not too old or have anything about them that their friends could make fun of. It certainly wouldn’t HURT recruiting to have someone like Kara or Becky Hammon at the helm!

Take your time, Phil! We’re impatient, but we’ll wait as long as we need to for you to land the right coach!

P.S. Kellie’s team sure did give Stanford a heckuva game, didn’t they?
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Kara would absolutely have to give up her other jobs and for sure the trustee! She is happy where she is from all I can tell!
 
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lvocd said:
If Kara is hired, I may have to quit my job and become a full-time Lady Vol game junkie, making attending every home AND road game my new vocation and RFL.

Even with no bigtime coaching experience, I am more certain that she’d turn the program around in short order than I have been of anything else ever.

And go ahead and feel free to laugh at me for expressing this opinion. It’s mine and there’s nothing you can do about it! *stomping my feet with clenched fists and a furrowed brow* lol

Really, I just want Phil to do a comprehensive search and to reach out to others who are more knowledgable — someone like Lawson, for example — for solid advice about who would or wouldn’t be a good fit for Tennessee. Phil has always been a fan of women’s basketball, but I doubt that he personally knows many of the coaches who might be candidates. I hope he seeks wise, hopefully unbiased, counsel.

Stll love Hammon, too. While Moore is a fine man and coach, I’d kinda like to see Phil make a “sexier” choice. Not sexy as in “physically attractive,” but sexy as in the type of coach that today’s social media-loving young people would think is kinda cool and famous and possibly even be not too old or have anything about them that their friends could make fun of. It certainly wouldn’t HURT recruiting to have someone like Kara or Becky Hammon at the helm!

Take your time, Phil! We’re impatient, but we’ll wait as long as we need to for you to land the right coach!

P.S. Kellie’s team sure did give Stanford a heckuva game, didn’t they?
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Honestly I tend to agree with this. I believe she and Niele Ivey both have an "IT" factor that coaches like Jolly-Harper and Moore do not. But they have no HC experience so there is nothing to base this on.

But having talked to several LV fans in private, a lot of them love the idea of Niele Ivey being hired and many of them also believe Kara would turn it around in a heartbeat. Most of them also like Hammon. I believe all of them have an "IT" factor. They are young and have a fire in their bellies that I think would propel them to success here.
 
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Roni said:
Nothing about wes moore seems exciting to me.
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I agree. And I feel players would think the same. He’s a good coach but not a GREAT coach. His team looked lackluster today. They didn’t compete at all in the first half. I know it’s not an indication of their whole season, but it looked bad.

And we’ve had enough of that.
 
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sccshortstop said:
Kara would absolutely have to give up her other jobs and for sure the trustee! She is happy where she is from all I can tell!
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But has she ever had an opportunity like this one to consider? In all seriousness, if she has any interest in coaching — and her recent stint as a two-time Gold Medal-winning coach for women’s 3x3 USA Basketball indicates that she does — then coaching the Lady Vols is literally the ultimate job in women’s athletics. Plus, it will likely pay better than all her other jobs combined.

Same with Hammon, who earns, I believe, less than half as an NBA assistant as Holly was paid last year. Tennessee’s projected salary would be a huge raise for Becky.
 
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lvocd said:
But has she ever had an opportunity like this one to consider? In all seriousness, if she has any interest in coaching — and her recent stint as a two-time Gold Medal-winning coach for women’s 3x3 USA Basketball indicates that she does — then coaching the Lady Vols is literally the ultimate job in women’s athletics. Plus, it will likely pay better than all her other jobs combined.

Same with Hammon, who earns, I believe, less than half as an NBA assistant as Holly was paid last year. Tennessee’s projected salary would be a huge raise for Becky.
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Good points but Hammon will not be contacted. If Kara had really wanted to get into the pain of full time coaching I am sure she would be doing that now. The trustee job from best I remember is not a high paying job but a prestigious one! Her others salary wise I could not guess. And no she has not had a chance like the one we are talking about but still would be a huge sacrifice. Yes this is the ultimate job in womens basketball for sure for anyone and that is why I would reserve whether Walz is considered. If he made the call to Phil rather than the other way around he would have to tell me No and make it public. If he wins it all then may be harder for him to leave. Now all this is JMHO as always!!
 
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