Westboro church pickets Oklahoma children funerals

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MontereyVol said:
How? Its one right vs another who wins the battle?
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all I'm asking is where is the funeral right stated? I know where the assembly one is but have never seen anything about a funeral.

The fact is many of these "protests" take place blocks away from the actual burial site so their 5-6 voices can't even be seen or heard. Seems like both are protected in that case
 
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"The right to protest is a perceived human right arising out of a number of recognized human rights"

The right to protest is assumed as the same as the right to the freedom of assembly. However, there is no law or constitutional right to protest.
 
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CountVolcula said:
"The right to protest is a perceived human right arising out of a number of recognized human rights"

The right to protest is assumed as the same as the right to the freedom of assembly. However, there is no law or constitutional right to protest.
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tell me the difference between the 2. How can you tell a protest from an assembly and who is in charge of determining that?
 
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tigervol9802 said:
No, but anyone in any way who would defend the actions of these idiots does make me scratch my head.
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then you're completely missing my point. I'm not arguing for them but for their rights. The same rights any other US citizen may want to exercise in the future. They just happen to be the example brought up
 
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utvolpj said:
then you're completely missing my point. I'm not arguing for them but for their rights. The same rights any other US citizen may want to exercise in the future. They just happen to be the example brought up
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And I can't make a distinction between the two.

If you are arguing their right to do it, then you are saying you approve of their actions because their actions are canctioned by that right.
 
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utvolpj said:
all I'm asking is where is the funeral right stated? I know where the assembly one is but have never seen anything about a funeral.

The fact is many of these "protests" take place blocks away from the actual burial site so their 5-6 voices can't even be seen or heard. Seems like both are protected in that case
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They originally started much closer, several law suits later they moved back. They can no longer be on the property of the grave site.

I made the case for the freedom of religion angle since you are using the right to protest angle.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
And I can't make a distinction between the two.

If you are arguing their right to do it, then you are saying you approve of their actions because their actions are canctioned by that right.
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Basically they have the "right" to something that is "wrong".
 
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tigervol9802 said:
And I can't make a distinction between the two.
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that's because there is almost no way to tell the difference. That's why the "no right to protest" thing doesn't make sense

If you are arguing their right to do it, then you are saying you approve of their actions because their actions are canctioned by that right.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely not. Believing the right exists and condoning their actions are 2 completely different things.
 
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MontereyVol said:
I made the case for the freedom of religion angle since you are using the right to protest angle.
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and I asked what religion requires complete silence at a funeral. Can they protest at some religions and not others?

BeecherVol said:
Basically they have the "right" to something that is "wrong".
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wrong based on your personal beliefs
 
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utvolpj said:
I'm not arguing for them but for their rights.
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Why is it that the 1st is always argued so hard, with so very little infringement, whereas the 2nd is only argued hard?

If my right to bare can be infringed, I say their right to free speech and/or assembly can be as well.
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MG1968 said:
WBC and CAIR should join forces, create a political party and give Lyndon Larouche a new home.
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I ran into some Larouche supporters doing a street protest in Chicago a couple of weeks ago trying to get people to sign up to impeach Obama. They were on Michigan Ave at the Chicago River, next to my hotel. Those commies didn't like what I had to say to them one bit in defense of freedom.....:)

On a side note, to those that think Obama is a commie, they were hating on Obama more than some of you neocons on here. Hitler 'stache and all.
 
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fl0at said:
Why is it that the 1st is always argued so hard, with so very little infringement, whereas the 2nd is only argued hard?

If my right to bare can be infringed, I say their right to free speech and/or assembly can be as well.
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for which one, the protestors or the funeral goers?
 
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fl0at said:
Why is it that the 1st is always argued so hard, with so very little infringement, whereas the 2nd is only argued hard?

If my right to bare can be infringed, I say their right to free speech and/or assembly can be as well.
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don't believe I said anything about the 2nd but I own quite a few guns so I'd argue for that one as well
 
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I was asking which group deserved their rights to free speech/assembly infringed upon
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Like I said, I cannot break the two. I see them as one in the same.
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then you also believe that everyone who believes in the 2nd amendment must own a gun? Anyone who believes in the freedom of religion must attend services? Believe in the 24th you must vote?
 
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kev20 said:
I was asking which group deserved their rights to free speech/assembly infringed upon
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The entire right, as need be. Followers of the "right" will feel the effects as necessary.
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