What belief grounds you the most to your party?

#27
#27
VolBeef88 said:
We do have term limits. For every office to which a person is voted in they too can be voted out. Our laziness is no reason to do something unconstitutional IMO.
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What is unconstitutional about term limits? The founders sought to institute them immediately with the office of President.

Without them you end up with Robert Byrds, Ted Kennedy's, and Strom Thurmonds. Which are representatives and senators who wield so much power and political influence in their respective districts that the people they represent would be "sacrificing" political favor and the return of tax dollars to vote them out.

It is the ultimate quid pro quo in politics, and it is the main reason for the pork barrell spending in our country. They have learned to bribe us all with our own money.
 
#28
#28
volinbham said:
Generally, I favor less government and restricting government involvement to those areas constitutionally outlined (e.g. national defense but not healthcare)

I disagree with the Republican party on social conservatism issues.

I disagree with the Democratic party on the role of government in equalizing citizens.
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Libertarian :thumbsup:
 
#30
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Lexvol said:
What is unconstitutional about term limits? The founders sought to institute them immediately with the office of President.

Without them you end up with Robert Byrds, Ted Kennedy's, and Strom Thurmonds. Which are representatives and senators who wield so much power and political influence in their respective districts that the people they represent would be "sacrificing" political favor and the return of tax dollars to vote them out.

It is the ultimate quid pro quo in politics, and it is the main reason for the pork barrell spending in our country. They have learned to bribe us all with our own money.
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Pretty much, government work meant that the person still held a job in their community.
 
#31
#31
OrangeEmpire said:
When it comes down to it, in the end there is really not that much difference between the two major parties.
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Correct. Both sides of the isle are drowning because of the money that lobbyists throw at them. They are bought when they run, then paid off in good measure to make sure they support their special interest groups.
 
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KB5252 said:
Correct. Both sides of the isle are drowning because of the money that lobbyists throw at them. They are bought when they run, then paid off in good measure to make sure they support their special interest groups.
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You bet...... I still say Nixon's silent majority would out weigh all of the crap that is going on.
 
#33
#33
the Republican party has definitely moved toward pandering (read: handouts) over the past couple of decades in order to garner some votes, but they'll never advocate robbing Peter to pay Paul in the same way the Dems do.

I suspect that single difference is the major difference in how most people vote today.
 
#34
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Lexvol said:
What is unconstitutional about term limits? The founders sought to institute them immediately with the office of President.

Without them you end up with Robert Byrds, Ted Kennedy's, and Strom Thurmonds. Which are representatives and senators who wield so much power and political influence in their respective districts that the people they represent would be "sacrificing" political favor and the return of tax dollars to vote them out.

It is the ultimate quid pro quo in politics, and it is the main reason for the pork barrell spending in our country. They have learned to bribe us all with our own money.
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What? Many wanted to make Washington King? They were overwhelmingly devistated when he informed them that he would not serve a 3rd term.
Ask Tom Daschle about that. If people keep voting a person in then who are we to tell them they cannot have that representative?
 
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#35
VolBeef88 said:
What? Many wanted to make Washington King? They were overwhelmingly devistated when he informed them that he would not serve a 3rd term.
Ask Tom Daschle about that. If people keep voting a person in then who are we to tell them they cannot have that representative?
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Because it turns in to what we have now.
 
#36
#36
KB5252 said:
Correct. Both sides of the isle are drowning because of the money that lobbyists throw at them. They are bought when they run, then paid off in good measure to make sure they support their special interest groups.
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I submit to you that you, I and everyone else in this nation are special interests.
 
#39
#39
This is the one area that makes me disrespect the dems. They try to provoke a class war by pitting the poor against the middle and upper classes. Telling them the reason they are poor is because the rich do not pay their fair share. Sadly too many believe the nonsense. The rich pay more than their fair share and the government is addicted to spending our money every way they can.
 
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#42
VolBeef88 said:
I submit to you that you, I and everyone else in this nation are special interests.
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No, I am not. I ask for nothing from the government, except to do their best to make sure that I and everyone I care about is as safe as possible and to uphold the law.
 
#43
#43
volinbham said:
No doubt - this is a key component of conservatism.

The government should be the safety net of last resort not the first choice for curing what ails you.
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Preach on brother. Preach on! The current system of welfare and the society it has created is crippling this country in more ways than just the economy. It breeds laziness and a dependant class of people who honestly believe they are entitled to everything for free just because they were born in the USA. Millions of minimum-wage workers also have to pay for your free ride.
 
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KB5252 said:
No, I am not. I ask for nothing from the government, except to do their best to make sure that I and everyone I care about is as safe as possible and to uphold the law.
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I guarantee you are one. Either through your job, religion or lifstyle. You may not know it but I know you and all the rest of us are.
 
#47
#47
VolBeef88 said:
I guarantee you are one. Either through your job, religion or lifstyle. You may not know it but I know you and all the rest of us are.
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If you mean that someone has created a lobby that is supposed to stand for what I believe in perhaps one does exist but they do not serve me per say. Lets say I am a Baptist. The Baptist convention does not serve me they serve themselves and I want nothing from them.
 
#48
#48
OrangeEmpire said:
I don't get why it is just Boston????????

You will have to explain that one.
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I just used Boston as an example. Any district should never be able to tell another who they can or cannot have as their district representative. By putting term limits in you would do so. I dont like many in Congress but I would fight for those who elected them to keep their rights to send to DC whom ever they want. If the people in Mass want to keep sending an alchoholic, drunk driving tool to the Senate they should have that right.
 
#49
#49
Volbeef I understand what you are saying but there are differences between people like me who see the damage that special interest do and those who back a union or group because there is something to be gained from it. Until we all see that the special interest group serve only themselves we will be stuck with the results we have now.
 
#50
#50
KB5252 said:
If you mean that someone has created a lobby that is supposed to stand for what I believe in perhaps one does exist but they do not serve me per say. Lets say I am a Baptist. The Baptist convention does not serve me they serve themselves and I want nothing from them.
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But my friend you have a label whethere or not you want it. Your geographic location makes you a special interest quite often.
 
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