What do you think will be the most important issue in 2008, Iraq, The Economy, Health

What will be the most important issue in the 2008 presidential election?

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#2
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Can we vote for more than one?

War in Iraq and on Terror will get the most debate - everyone is engaged in this issue.

Economy is good for most so it won't be a referendum on the economy -- however, many still vote who they think will be better for the economy going forward.

Ditto for healthcare; education; social issues -- not a big consistent problem for most. These will be core reasons for some but not for others.

Bottomline - the war both in Iraq and on terror seems to have the clearest battlelines and proposed solutions.
 
#3
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Maybe I just oversimplify but why is it so hard to just say let's outline the exit strategy in Iraq, re-deploy the military to an offensive strategy against terrorists, and start bringing to justice these individuals for the pound of flesh and be done with it?
 
#4
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dan4vols said:
Maybe I just oversimplify but why is it so hard to just say let's outline the exit strategy in Iraq, re-deploy the military to an offensive strategy against terrorists, and start bringing to justice these individuals for the pound of flesh and be done with it?
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*Waves finger*

You could never be a politician!

:rtfm:
 
#5
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Other - Whether we want to be ruled by the Taliban or the Bathists. Obviously, I am a little disgusted by the surrenderists and appeasers who are climbing over one another's backs to turn this country into an impotent backwater.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Other - Whether we want to be ruled by the Taliban or the Bathists. Obviously, I am a little disgusted by the surrenderists and appeasers who are climbing over one another's backs to turn this country into an impotent backwater.
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Someone woke up on the grumpy side of the bed....

:ermm:
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Other - Whether we want to be ruled by the Taliban or the Bathists. Obviously, I am a little disgusted by the surrenderists and appeasers who are climbing over one another's backs to turn this country into an impotent backwater.
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Have you renewed your CAIR membership for 2007?
 
#10
#10
I'd go with the economy.

Getting out of Iraq's important, but with Boomer retirement commencing, the unresolved financial situation of Medicare and Social Security, slow housing markets, the subprime mortgage bubble bursting, and persistent inflation, we've got much more important things to worry about on the home front.
 
#11
#11
I think it's too early to tell. Progress could be made in both Iraq and the GWOT, which won't be good news for the anti-war democrats.

If I had to venture a guess, the candidate that resembles neither another Bush nor Clinton will end up with the job, regardless of what the hot button issues are. So that means:

1. clear exit strategy for Iraq that involves a clear definition of victory
2. doesn't promise the world in terms of new government spending
3. has a reasonable plan for dealing with illegal immigration
 
#13
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I think you'll see a return of the strategy that Bush used in 2000....we need a government with ethics and accountability. Hillary could use this and hit home for many.

Honestly I think the GOP is very tarnished. Slowly the party is getting punched and bruised as a whole for issues like Walter Reed, Libby, Gonzalez, etc. Look at the candidates they are fielding. The party is no different than the Dems in 2005....what is our rally cry? Our unifier? Besides who is the reincarnation of Reagan, there is nothing consistent with all of the candidates.
 
#14
#14
Going to be interesting to see who breaks out in next year and connects with the people. Interesting times ahead.
 
#15
#15
Whoever it is, if it is an outsider, they better hurry and get their hat into the ring. With the primaries moving up it will be harder to establish a warchest and organizations in all of the relevant states.
 
#16
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CSpindizzy said:
How would this happen?
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Once we leave Iraq with our tails between our legs the Islamic terrorists will start killing us on our own soil again. I guess we'll just have to surrender that fight as well. After all, what's a few burkas and religious purges if we can have "peace in our time".
 
#17
#17
Well then tell me if you were in charge:

1)What would you do to ensure this did not happen?
2)What would you consider 'victory' to bring the troops home?
 
#18
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CSpindizzy said:
Well then tell me if you were in charge:
1)What would you do to ensure this did not happen?
2)What would you consider 'victory' to bring the troops home?
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Option 1. (covers both) Withdraw the troops and nuke the entire middle east back to the stone age. America, prepare for $5.00 a gallon biodisel.

Option 2. Create fortified bases in areas of strategic importance (oil fields and perhaps Kurdish strongholds or areas controlled by other sypathetic groups) surrounded by DMZ-type buffers. Immediately, launch air sorties (plane or missle) against any areas where wmd's are suspected in Iran or Syria to neutralize the doomsaday threat. Then let the sunnis and shiites have their civil war while we take a wait and see approach. Maybe even supply arms to which ever side seems to be disadvantaged just so they can get in their fair share of licks.

Obviously, I'm not a military strategist. But I think anyone with even minimal cognitive ability realizes that the terrorists will not go away and they will come at us where ever we are. If nothing else, IMO, we should at least stay long enough to see some popularly elected Iraqi government assume a reasonable measure of control over the most of the country.
 
#19
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As I've said before, if 140K of America's finest cannot prop up that excuse for a government along with getting rid of the insurgency, what makes you think we can ever get to that point?
 
#20
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jdsa said:
I'd go with the economy.

Getting out of Iraq's important, but with Boomer retirement commencing, the unresolved financial situation of Medicare and Social Security, slow housing markets, the subprime mortgage bubble bursting, and persistent inflation, we've got much more important things to worry about on the home front.
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The unresolved issues are ones that neither party has shown the guts to face. Further, while people recognize these as issues they are future issues which tend to get the back burner treatment.

Housing markets are slowing but not slow - the long predicted bubble has not materialized. There will likely be a pull back in prices (small) but not the bubble as predicted.

Likewise with the subprime bubble - most likely won't shake out as a bubble.

Not sure where you see persistant inflation - it has been under control for the last 2 administrations.

In any economic cycle, there will be people feeling the crunch and others doing better than ever. The current economy is strong, it may weaken some but even then would still be considered good.
 
#21
#21
I feel you bham. A couple of weeks ago when the newsies were playing chicken little over the market I was thinking, geez, it's still over 12,000?!?!
 
#22
#22
While I keep hearing the economy is good, I don't see that at the average American level. Forclosures and bankruptcies are very high along with the amount of debt being very high and purchasing power being low relatively speaking. Looking at polling data, the middle class is just not feeling the full effects of the 'good' economy.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
While I keep hearing the economy is good, I don't see that at the average American level. Forclosures and bankruptcies are very high along with the amount of debt being very high and purchasing power being low relatively speaking. Looking at polling data, the middle class is just not feeling the full effects of the 'good' economy.
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I feel pretty good and I identify as middle class because I have to work for a living. Nobody makes someone sign a loan note that they cannot afford. Too many people out there are trying to live beyond their means. If they get pinched it's their own darn fault. About the only people that I have any sympathy for are those at the absolute lowest rung of unskilled, uneducated labor whose job opportunities have pretty much been wiped out by the illegal aliens.
 
#25
#25
Well their feelings now are how they vote. So perception and personal feelings are all that matters when they touch the screen, pull the lever or color in a bubble.

And it doesn't matter whose fault it is. People tend to blame others for misfortune whether it is legit or not.
 
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