What Happened to America?

[NorthDallas40]

Somewhere along the way classic liberalism got co-opted worse than the tea party movement did.

 

[utvolpj]

Where did I say that? Dont forget your boy Amish was part of the Republican Party.

Your example is a good one but not for the reasons you think. He came in on the TP wave which was then hijacked by the drowning gop. He then left the party when it became clear what they were about. He then gets bullied by the lifelong dem who's now in charge of the gop and his followers eat it up

 

[luthervol]

If they are a minority, as you say, then Trump should win in a landslide of Biblical proportions.

??? How do you figure?
The radical extremes are made up by the extreme 2% on the left and the extreme 10% on the right.
If you take someone from the tenth percentile on the right, they will be more radical than someone from the third percentile on the left.

 

[utvolpj]

No difference on such topics as climate, taxes, regulation, universal healthcare, UBI, abortion, free higher education, defense spending, trade, illegal immigrants. I mean I could go on with some more thought.

Very little when you look at what actually gets done. It's theater. They're like the TSA

 

[Boston Vol]

What happened to America? Woodrow Wilson happened. It’s been downhill ever since.

 

[NorthDallas40]

What happened to America? Woodrow Wilson happened. It’s been downhill ever since.

Nah. Lincoln owns the start of where we are. So much bull **** started on his watch including the death of nearly one million Americans by our own hand and the first federal income taxes. Oh well we had a good one hundred years or so.

 

[midnight orange]

No difference on such topics as climate, taxes, regulation, universal healthcare, UBI, abortion, free higher education, defense spending, trade, illegal immigrants. I mean I could go on with some more thought.

Climate- repubs are on with climate change legislation

“The Bush administration,[35] along with several of the candidates that sought the Republican Presidential nomination in 2008,[36][37][38]supported increased Federal investment into the development of clean alternative fuels, increased nuclear power, as well as fuels such as ethanol, as a way of helping the U.S. achieve energy independence, as opposed to supporting less use of carbon dioxide-producing methods of generating energy.”

On taxes republicans support a top marginal bracket of 36.00% while the democrats support a marginal tax bracket of 36.000000000000001%

On regulations the CFR’s grow no matter who is in the White House or controllable Congress.

On healthcare, the republicans were going “ remove and replace” Obamacare with a “ better” plan - we still have Obamacare after a republican congress and president.

On defense, both parties are for perpetual war. They pretend to debate around the margins for votes.
On trade and economics both parties play to their bases economic ignorance.
I do not care what politicians tell me they want, I care what they do. There is virtually no difference and I rest my case although I could go on and on.

 

[VolStrom]

??? How do you figure?
The radical extremes are made up by the extreme 2% on the left and the extreme 10% on the right.
If you take someone from the tenth percentile on the right, they will be more radical than someone from the third percentile on the left.

LOL! Luther you have a way with words.

 

[happy-go_vol]

What happened to America?
We've gotten dumber and love being dumb. See proud Trump supporters. It's not Trump's fault. It's the idiots who continue to proudly support the clown.

The better question: Why don't qualified people run for POTUS anymore?

Ignorant post. Say what you will, trump understands business and knows we've been getting shafted in trade, we support dictators and anti-american organizations. We demand to allow the worst of the worst in immigration so you marxists can expand your voting base.

How do you define who's qualified? Someone like obama who targeted Amercans through irs or pressuring banks against gun shops and manufacturers? Paying iran billions through some fake agreement? If thats how you define a qualified candidate, ill take trump.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Ignorant post. Say what you will, trump understands business and knows we've been getting shafted in trade, we support dictators and anti-american organizations. We demand to allow the worst of the worst in immigration so you marxists can expand your voting base.

How do you define who's qualified? Someone like obama who targeted Amercans through irs or pressuring banks against gun shops and manufacturers? Paying iran billions through some fake agreement? If thats how you define a qualified candidate, ill take trump.

Trump has very little understanding of business. By almost any standard, he's nowhere near an astute businessman. The record on him supports my claim

No one said a damn thing about Obama, but you sure are an example of our dumb nation

 

[hog88]

What happened to America?
We've gotten dumber and love being dumb. See proud Trump supporters. It's not Trump's fault. It's the idiots who continue to proudly support the clown.

The better question: Why don't qualified people run for POTUS anymore?

Two main reasons:

1. the job would be a pay cut for an actually qualified person.
2. someone actually qualified for the job doesn't want the microscope of the press jammed up their azz for years. They have skeletons.

 

[VolStrom]

Trump has very little understanding of business. By almost any standard, he's nowhere near an astute businessman. The record on him supports my claim

No one said a ****** thing about Obama, but you sure are an example of our dumb nation

So let's set this record straight. Trump doesn't understand business and he's not an astute businessman, but Obama, who has never ran a business is?

 

[USAFgolferVol]

So let's set this record straight. Trump doesn't understand business and he's not an astute businessman, but Obama, who has never ran a business is?

didn't say anything about Obama. Wasn't a fan. I know your little brain doesn't get this fact, but just because someone doesn't like Trump doesn't mean they were an Obama supporter.

 

[VolStrom]

didn't say anything about Obama. Wasn't a fan. I know your little brain doesn't get this fact, but just because someone doesn't like Trump doesn't mean they were an Obama supporter.

So you tell half truths? You lie about Trump and tell the truth about about Obama?

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Two main reasons:

1. the job would be a pay cut for an actually qualified person.
2. someone actually qualified for the job doesn't want the microscope of the press jammed up their azz for years. They have skeletons.

Fact

 

[NorthDallas40]

Two main reasons:

1. the job would be a pay cut for an actually qualified person.
2. someone actually qualified for the job doesn't want the microscope of the press jammed up their azz for years. They have skeletons.

Anybody qualified to have the job wouldn’t touch it with a 10 ft pole with all the crap around it now.

POTUS wasn’t supposed to be a politician but several politicians have been POTUS. It’s an executive role.

The first automatic disclaimer for anybody wanting the job is when they buy into their own hubris and register on the ballot.

 

[Delmar]

I was right there with the OP until he contradicted himself.

Our two party system is the problem, not a particular party within said system.

Exactly. The right wingnuts are just as bad, if not worse, than the left wingnuts. Not enough people want to spend time on critical thinking. They just mindlessly buy whatever tripe the mouthpieces are spewing.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Two main reasons:

1. the job would be a pay cut for an actually qualified person.
2. someone actually qualified for the job doesn't want the microscope of the press jammed up their azz for years. They have skeletons.

This, even decent people would become "racist, sexist, homophobic, wealthy xenophobes" who want "elderly, blacks, hispanics, gays, women, children, and puppies dead"

 

[Dumbledorange]

I was right there with the OP until he contradicted himself.

More than once. Out.

 

[Orangeburst]

Climate- repubs are on with climate change legislation

“The Bush administration,[35] along with several of the candidates that sought the Republican Presidential nomination in 2008,[36][37][38]supported increased Federal investment into the development of clean alternative fuels, increased nuclear power, as well as fuels such as ethanol, as a way of helping the U.S. achieve energy independence, as opposed to supporting less use of carbon dioxide-producing methods of generating energy.”

On taxes republicans support a top marginal bracket of 36.00% while the democrats support a marginal tax bracket of 36.000000000000001%

On regulations the CFR’s grow no matter who is in the White House or controllable Congress.

On healthcare, the republicans were going “ remove and replace” Obamacare with a “ better” plan - we still have Obamacare after a republican congress and president.

On defense, both parties are for perpetual war. They pretend to debate around the margins for votes.
On trade and economics both parties play to their bases economic ignorance.
I do not care what politicians tell me they want, I care what they do. There is virtually no difference and I rest my case although I could go on and on.

Dems were not in favor of reduced corporate tax rates.
Regulations have been cut. Fact. Obama's regulations were onerous.
Replacement of Obamacare is because of Paul Ryan and the never Trumpers. Obamacare was voted down party lines.
Dems are for sanctuary cities and against building a wall.

Somehow I am to believe the Repub and Dem parties are the same, yet denies any variance within the party itself. If the progressive wing of the Dem party gets a majority, you can count on massive differences.

Regardless, the topic is such a generalization and open to vast interpretation.

 

[Bigun]

Trump has very little understanding of business. By almost any standard, he's nowhere near an astute businessman. The record on him supports my claim

No one said a ****** thing about Obama, but you sure are an example of our dumb nation

Trump understands the barriers to business growth like overtaxing and over-regulation of industries. When you lift those restrictions it allows businesses to operate more freely with their cash flow. It's not that hard. He isn't a genius but then again noone really is in politics.

I know you didn't mention Obama but why don't people call his followers stupid when Obama's own admin said they were and they counted on their stupidity to get Obamacare passed?

 

[Delmar]

What happened to America?
We've gotten dumber and love being dumb. See proud Trump supporters. It's not Trump's fault. It's the idiots who continue to proudly support the clown.

The better question: Why don't qualified people run for POTUS anymore?

You ask a great question about getting better people to run for President. I am firmly convinced that the only reason Trump won was that the Dems ran the only candidate that people could hate worse than him. Personally I would have voted for a trained monkey before I would have pulled the lever for either. The next decision for me is who Biden picks for a VP. Because that is essentially who you’ll be voting for if you go the Biden route. ABT.

 

[hog88]

You ask a great question about getting better people to run for President. I am firmly convinced that the only reason Trump won was that the Dems ran the only candidate that people could hate worse than him. Personally I would have voted for a trained monkey before I would have pulled the lever for either. The next decision for me is who Biden picks for a VP. Because that is essentially who you’ll be voting for if you go the Biden route. ABT.

It will be an affirmative action pick, so get ready to vote for them.

 

[Delmar]

Trump understands the barriers to business growth like overtaxing and over-regulation of industries. When you lift those restrictions it allows businesses to operate more freely with their cash flow. It's not that hard. He isn't a genius but then again noone really is in politics.

I know you didn't mention Obama but why don't people call his followers stupid when Obama's own admin said they were and they counted on their stupidity to get Obamacare passed?

Trump understood nothing in business but overextending on financing, declaring bankruptcy and screwing subcontractors and banks out of money. That was his ticket to success. Well, that and daddy leaving him a lot of money.

 

[hndog609]

Two main reasons:

1. the job would be a pay cut for an actually qualified person.
2. someone actually qualified for the job doesn't want the microscope of the press jammed up their azz for years. They have skeletons.

And if they didn't some would be manufactured.