What is it going to take..

#28
#28
Win tomorrow talks can pick up, lose tomorrow and we have to win sec tournament.

Caliban what would you project rpi jump to be if we were to win?

We're at 135, I think win could get us inside 100?
 
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#29
#29
bleedingTNorange said:
Win tomorrow talks can pick up, lose tomorrow and we have to win sec tournament.

Caliban what would you project rpi jump to be if we were to win?

We're at 135, I think win could get us inside 100?
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Big road win.
But, probably be wishful thinking to get inside 100.
Maybe right at it.
Experts are projecting us to finish 14-17 RPI 146.
I do think we'll do better than that.
 
#30
#30
We'd have to win the SEC Tournament, period.

Even to make the NIT, you need a winning record on the season.
 
#31
#31
not happening but just for fun...

- we would have to win out (sweeps florida and usc and splits with vandy)

- at least make it to the finals (or semi beating a uk team but if we win out, we would not be seeing uk i bet until the championship)

- stokes really needs to play lights out (would show the comittee that he's changed the way our team plays)

imo, beat florida and it gets serious. A road win on the road against the gators would do wonders. I don't think florida will be nearly as tough as bama but i like our chances if we can beat the gators because of confidence
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#32
#32
and ftr, its not happening. Everytime i think ncaa tournament and this team, they come out the next game and get blown out
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Shaun1985 said:
not happening but just for fun...

- we would have to win out (sweeps florida and usc and splits with vandy)

- at least make it to the finals (or semi beating a uk team but if we win out, we would not be seeing uk i bet until the championship)

- stokes really needs to play lights out (would show the comittee that he's changed the way our team plays)

imo, beat florida and it gets serious. A road win on the road against the gators would do wonders. I don't think florida will be nearly as tough as bama but i like our chances if we can beat the gators because of confidence
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bingo! if we win we can get a better idea after seeing where our rpi goes, if we lost only chance is winning the sec t.
 
#34
#34
Shaun1985 said:
and ftr, its not happening. Everytime i think ncaa tournament and this team, they come out the next game and get blown out
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ive been right there with you each and every time. like after florida then we lose to uga, then uconn then we get killed by vandy. im not holding out hope, just having some fun now.
 
#36
#36
This thread needs to be deleted. It has as much of a chance of happening as some of the Ky trolls making a post that contributes to the conversation.
 
#37
#37
if we won out we might be on the bubble considering we would be beating Florida at home and Vandy. Other than that winning the SEC tourney would be the only way
 
#38
#38
fwiw our rpi has actually increased quite a bit today. we are now a 128 rpi, imo a win @ uf puts us in the 90's. at this point you need to root against bama, ark, ole miss. lunardi has 5 sec teams making it with bama being his last team from sec ole miss has a rpi of 52 and ark a rpi of 67 so that shows you we need to get probably under 50 to really have a chance.
 
#39
#39
The short answer: more than we've got. Let's enjoy the rest of the season, knowing we are building something strong and solid for the future.
 
#40
#40
IF (great big gigantic IF) UT were to win out (regular season) they would be 19-12 overall and 11-5 in conference plus they would be 9-1 over their last 10 and an RPI right around 60. Now that's a huge if and no one really ever knows what the committee is going to do, but that is a profile that gets UT back on the bubble. It's actually a better profile than last years team, which faded down the stretch. With 68 in the field who knows. Probably not likely they win 7 straight but if they do they would definately have a chance even without winning the SEC tourney.

Edit: I changed the overall record to 19-12. Not sure why i thought UT had already lost 13 games.
 
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zansdad said:
IF (great big gigantic IF) UT were to win out (regular season) they would be 19-13 overall and 11-5 in conference plus they would be 9-1 over their last 10 and an RPI right around 60. Now that's a huge if and no one really ever knows what the committee is going to do, but that is a profile that gets UT back on the bubble. It's actually a better profile than last years team, which faded down the stretch. With 68 in the field who knows. Probably not likely they win 7 straight but if they do they would definately have a chance even without winning the SEC tourney.
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Agree 100%. And I still think the committee will factor in how weve played with stokes much like they take injuries into consideration.

As you said big if but that scenario we'd be in I believe.

It all starts tomorrow though.
 
#42
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zansdad said:
IF (great big gigantic IF) UT were to win out (regular season) they would be 19-13 overall and 11-5 in conference plus they would be 9-1 over their last 10 and an RPI right around 60. Now that's a huge if and no one really ever knows what the committee is going to do, but that is a profile that gets UT back on the bubble. It's actually a better profile than last years team, which faded down the stretch. With 68 in the field who knows. Probably not likely they win 7 straight but if they do they would definately have a chance even without winning the SEC tourney.
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Sorry. No way we get into the 60s winning out.
Here a few more variables to factor in.

NCAA also has a system of bonuses and penalties. Teams gain credits for beating top 50 RPI teams and for scheduling 50 percent of their non-conference games against top 50 opponents. (We're ok here)
Teams receive penalties for losing to non-Division I teams, or losing to weak teams (150 or below) and for scheduling 50 percent of the non-conference schedule against weak teams. (Too many weak teams and we lost to one)


Duke 2
Memphis 18(2)
Uconn 24
Pittsburg 71
UNC Ash 116
Oakland 125
COC 128
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ETSU 198
Austin Peay 205
Unc greensboro 237
Chattanooga 285
louisiana Monroe 334
Citadel 335
 
#43
#43
Hardwood_fanatic said:
UT has to win the SEC tourney to get in the dance. If they run the table in the SEC from here on out and finish at 11-5 and win 2 games in the SEC tourney, the chances are about 15% that they get in. The UConn win isn't going be worth a dime come selection Sunday. If they were to somehow beat UK in the tourney it would help, but with RPI, strength of schedule and a few of the bad losses, its SEC tourney champs or bust. JMO
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I'm glad someone gets it. If Tennessee gets an at-large bid, the entire committee should be fired on the spot.
 
#44
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calban said:
Sorry. No way we get into the 60s winning out.
Here a few more variables to factor in.

NCAA also has a system of bonuses and penalties. Teams gain credits for beating top 50 RPI teams and for scheduling 50 percent of their non-conference games against top 50 opponents. (We're ok here)
Teams receive penalties for losing to non-Division I teams, or losing to weak teams (150 or below) and for scheduling 50 percent of the non-conference schedule against weak teams. (Too many weak teams and we lost to one)


Duke 2
Memphis 18(2)
Uconn 24
Pittsburg 71
UNC Ash 116
Oakland 125
COC 128
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ETSU 198
Austin Peay 205
Unc greensboro 237
Chattanooga 285
louisiana Monroe 334
Citadel 335
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Those factors don't affect the RPI itself, they are extra data the committee uses when comparing teams. As for finishing in the 60's if UT wins out, that's not my number thats from rpiforcast.com
 
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zansdad said:
Those factors don't affect the RPI itself, they are extra data the committee uses when comparing teams. As for finishing in the 60's if UT wins out, that's not my number thats from rpiforcast.com
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That's a really good site thanks for the post. Having fun playing around on it looking at difference scenarios.

Here was the one I had brought up earlier that I thought we could get in on earlier this thread. In our remaining 7 games go 6-1 and finish season, that's 17-13(Cham. Doesn't count). Then if they were to win 2 guys in sec t and lose in championship, we finish 19-14...according to forecast that scenario puts us with a rpi of 58.8, that'd get us in most likely.

Interesting read, thanks.
 
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#46
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zansdad said:
Those factors don't affect the RPI itself, they are extra data the committee uses when comparing teams. As for finishing in the 60's if UT wins out, that's not my number thats from rpiforcast.com
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Not accurate.
 
#48
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zansdad said:
What's not accurate?
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60.
Couldn't be.
Haven't been able to get to the site you've mentioned. It's down 90% of the time, but I'd like to read the fine print.
Too many variables, too many teams ahead of us playing their best ball of the season.
Just don't see how they could factor that in to a scenario.
 
#49
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calban said:
60.
Couldn't be.
Haven't been able to get to the site you've mentioned. It's down 90% of the time, but I'd like to read the fine print.
Too many variables, too many teams ahead of us playing their best ball of the season.
Just don't see how they could factor that in to a scenario.
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It's back up now. It was down all day yesterday. I am not saying that I think that UT wins out. Just saying that the math, according to rpiforcast.com, shows that winning out would make the Vols' RPI jump into the 60's. I'm no math major though, so I will leave it to others to debate the formulas being used.
 
#50
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calban said:
60.
Couldn't be.
Haven't been able to get to the site you've mentioned. It's down 90% of the time, but I'd like to read the fine print.
Too many variables, too many teams ahead of us playing their best ball of the season.
Just don't see how they could factor that in to a scenario.
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Try this link, it's already the Tennessee page:
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/ct/Tennessee.html

It has us if we won out through the season and the sec t we'd be at 44. Around the same if we Won out and lost in the championship.

The most relistic scenario I had said was...we go 6-1 down the stretch finish at 17-13(Cham doesn't count) win 2 in sec and lose championship. According to the site we'd bar a rpi around 58.
 
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